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Name is broader than the trope.: Over The Shoulder Pose get usage counts

 101 Xtifr, Sun, 1st Jul '12 12:51:39 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Heh, rodney, I'd say this very thread has presented strong arguments both for and against your position. Summaries are good when the issues may be confusing, and there was clearly a lot of confusion about this trope, but summaries are bad if they're misleading or push an agenda, which is easy to do—we very nearly had some rather misleading summaries here.

Anyway, now that we've paused to talk things through a little more, I think we may all be agreed that we really only have two reasonable names offered so far, Boobs-and-Butt Pose, and Tits And Ass Pose, and I think most of us agree that the latter is rather more vulgar than the former, especially in the US. But all four words appear in other trope names (Gag Boobs, Boobs of Steel, I Have Boobs, You Must Obey!, Nothing Butt An Index, Torpedo Tits, Ass Pull, Ass Shove), so I think we're probably ok with either. Should we start the crowner with just those two? (My vote is yes.)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 102 Xtifr, Sun, 1st Jul '12 3:45:09 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Ok, seems like someone already made a crowner here. It includes the two misleading options with "brokeback", but I think it's probably good enough. The discussion has been pretty clear.

Calling to have it hooked.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Sorry, that was me. Made it, then realized there was still discussion going on so I held off calling for it to be hooked.

 104 lu 127, Sun, 1st Jul '12 10:42:24 PM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Crowner hooked.
 105 Xtifr, Tue, 3rd Jul '12 4:40:19 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Starting to look like a pretty solid consensus here. :)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 106 Xtifr, Thu, 5th Jul '12 3:27:54 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Bump. 11:1 for Boobs-and-Butt Pose (which is an established term), 7:6 for Tits And Ass Pose. Everything else in the red.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Tits And Ass Pose is somewhat established too (but I'm fine with Boobs-and-Butt Pose)

 108 Xtifr, Thu, 5th Jul '12 3:45:34 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up] It might be—I certainly believe that people have used the term—but a quick google search didn't find anything, while a google search for "boobs and butt pose" turned up almost nothing but references to what the trope describes.

eta: and of course, B&B is a little further from the edges of new site policies.

edited 5th Jul '12 3:47:07 PM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
? The first hit after tvtropes is an example. do you have safe-search turned on or something?

Two Breasts Two Buttocks No Spine sounds way more narrow that the trope as it's currently described.

edited 5th Jul '12 7:30:19 PM by abk0100

 110 Xtifr, Thu, 5th Jul '12 9:20:25 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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No, but I have cookies enabled for Google, and anyone who does that is likely to get different results from anyone else who does that. So, ok, T&A has some currency—I'm not exactly surprised. I still think B&B is more commonly used specifically for this trope, and it's a little less vulgar (especially for Americans, who use "ass" in much the same way that Brits use "arse").

I agree about the two breasts one. Too specific and too long, and not a standard term. Spine-breaking is not a requirement; the pose is used in photos as well as drawings. Its milder forms are merely uncomfortable (and extremely silly when used as a fighting pose—nearly Chainmail Bikini's level of silliness).
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
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In the Real Life section of the examples list is a link to the famous picture of Betty Grable, and it seems to me that that picture is the Trope Maker for this pose. So how about a Betty Grable themed title? Some possibilities: Betty Grable Pose, Betty Grable Twist, Brokeback Betty Grable, and Extreme Betty Grable.

edited 6th Jul '12 4:50:55 PM by Tonestronaut

 112 peccantis, Fri, 6th Jul '12 5:39:23 PM Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
the flies will find you
[up] I don't know how to say this nicely... but that is a very bad idea.
before the darkness arrives
 113 Xtifr, Fri, 6th Jul '12 7:45:34 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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I think we basically have consensus here, so I don't really think we have a great need for new suggestions. Especially since the leading candidate is an established term.

Current status: Boobs-and-Butt Pose has 14:1 and everything else is in the red.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 114 shimaspawn, Sat, 7th Jul '12 1:12:17 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Calling crowner. Make the swap.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 115 Septimus Heap, Sat, 7th Jul '12 2:01:23 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Executed. Will make the notes on discussion, Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread shortly.

 116 Xtifr, Sun, 8th Jul '12 12:16:10 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Is this done? Can we lock?
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 117 ccoa, Wed, 22nd Aug '12 8:22:34 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Looks done. Locking.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
The system doesn't know you right now, so no post button for you.
You need to Get Known to get one of those.

Alternative Titles: Over The Shoulder Pose
30th Jun '12 2:19:41 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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