Red Vs Blue General Discussion

I actually forgot about Carolina's insanity because of the return of Doc and Donut.

....The Director must of buried the memories of Allison so deeply inside himself.

You could just do what I do. Skip the "Freelancer" based flashbacks and just watch the classic-based Red vs. Blue material.

^You are DETERMINED to not give the Freelancer segments any credit at all, aren't you?

I find it weird that the people Doc keeps giving medical attention to keep surviving.

... Doc's an effective medic

Should I?

As far as I'm concerned, the "Freelancer" material is Red vs. Blue In Name Only. It's hijacked the series from the original characters I watched the series for in the first place and their comedic hijinks, created drama-based episodes with no appearances from the Reds or Blues, and the whole thing reeks of some kind of "LOOK! WE CAN DO SERIOUS DRAMA STUFF, TOO!" self-importance as if they're trying to prove something or what have you.

I do not like the direction that the "Freelancer" stuff has taken the series, and so I'm hoping you can understand if I'm inclined to try to pay as little attention to the stuff that doesn't directly pertain to the actual Reds and Blues.

The whole thing should have just been a different series, if you ask me.

Isn't he, like, not supposed to be, though?

The joke was originally that, but it change to Doc's methods are so outrageous that they should fail but doesn't.

edited 17th Sep '12 9:47:38 PM by theweirdKiddokun

Okay, I am determined to find out what the hell is in that Sarcophagus, because that whole screaming thing creeped me out.

And Donut's back! Yaaaaaaay! *flails like Kermit*

Also, I'm back to not liking present-day Carolina. I'm starting to not like Church as well. They'll rethink their actions when Grif is so tired he pulls a Caboose.

^^ Begrudgingly, I can understand what you're saying and I do agree that the Freelancers are overshadowing the original characters from Blood Gulch. However, as fun as the characters of BG are, they're jokes and mannerisms about how much they suck and how stupid their fights are wore thin midway through season four IMO.

I also completely fail to see how Freelancers are Rv B In Name Only, since the Freelancers have been with BG since the earliest episodes. Sure, our actual comprehension of them was different, and a lot of the new material has directly clashed with earlier information, but that can be attributed to the effort of making the series a legitimate mythos and not some hodgepodge of plotlines and throwaway lines for the sake of humor (which suspends canon anyway).

But what irks me about your decision to ignore the Freelancers is how they DO impact the BG crew. maybe not frame to frame, but the large majority of their actions have had a monumental impact on the later (er, earlier) episodes regarding how the BG crew are thrown out of their little bubble and into the real picture.

you know...I think I've figured out why I've been having such an irate time with you; Without any offense meaning (and please let me know if I'm off), it seems you want to keep Rv B STRICTLY in the BGC days. You want to stay in the bubble that the Reds and Blues can't anymore and want to completely ignore the elements that make the latter series make sense while still attempting to loosely maintain the old stuff. You want to stay with Caboose, Tucker, A.Church, Grif, Sarge, Simmons, Donut, and potentially Wyoming, O'Malley,and Tex and not even acknowledge the members of Project Freelancer or anything from Seasons 9 + 10.

Also technically, you got your wish; this IS a diffrent series, but it's still part of Rv B, the same way that BGC, Revelations, Recovery One, Relocated, and even MIA and Wall are.

I guess. There were still jokes at his expense in Revelation, but I guess that could just be Wash getting dismissive of the main crew. How many times has he actually practiced medicine on the show, anyway? Four, not counting the ending where everyone dies? Presumably it's because spent most of BGC as O'Malley?

I'm guessing that they jammed Alpha into it to torture him. It would explain this scene as well as the fact that it appeared to be involved in Delta's creation last season.

edited 17th Sep '12 10:19:34 PM by SomeName

I wouldn't say you're entirely wrong. Though it's not that I want to keep things the way they were in the Blood Gultch days, but rather that I want the Red and Blue teams we've known since the beginning to remain the main characters and the focus of the series. I want the series to remain focused on Sarge, Grif, Simmons, Caboose, Tucker, Church, etc. And I was even fine with the way they replaced Church with Washington - I was able to accept that, and I wouldn't have had any problem with if they'd gone back to the Reds and Blues fighting but with Washington filling the role that Church had previously.

The "Freelancers" probably wouldn't even bother me nearly as much if it didn't result in episodes where the characters I know and love get minimal screen time or we even end up going entire episodes without them making an appearance.

It also annoys me the way the show has suffered from a Cerebus Retcon in regards to a number of things - like, for example, Church being a ghost. It was funny, it worked. We didn't need a realistic explanation for why he became a ghost, it was funny, we accepted it. We didn't need to be told that no, they're not fighting a stupid war for a stupid reason, they're just there to provide the "Freelancers" with a testing battleground.

And all of it points back to the frikken "Freelancer" storyline they felt a need to make the central basis of the series!

That's my problem with it all and why I think of the "Freelancers" as Red vs. Blue In Name Only - Red vs. Blue is a comedy series featuring the Red team and the Blue Team. "Freelancers" is a drama series featuring mostly characters we'd never met before, and were initially just referenced to with a few showing up here and there and one being dismissed for the sake of a joke. "Freelancers" feels the need to show how awesome they can be by doing extensive cutscenes of people getting beat up. Red vs. Blue runs on Rule of Funny.

The Mood Whiplash itself should provide at least some hint as to the disconnect between what I like to think of as the 'Real' Red vs. Blue and the "Freelancers" that feel like they've been attached on as to make use of the Red vs. Blue name. I can't help but wonder if they wanted to tell it as a different series, but worried that they wouldn't be able to get away with it and it wouldn't have been successful without having the Rv B name to latch on to.

It's as thought they themselves have fallen into the mindset of the comedy and animation ghettos and feel a need to do this big drama/action story arc to prove themselves as serious storytellers. Which has come at the expense of the characters and comedy I watched the show for in the first place!

I won't say the "Freelancer" thing couldn't have been built into the regular Red vs Blue and actually feel like a natural extension of it, but I can't accept it as feeling like it belongs in the show with the way they've done it.

edited 17th Sep '12 11:18:53 PM by SpaceJawa

It looked as though the A.I.s didn't freak out until the Director yelled. So maybe having 2 A.I.s by itself isn't as dangerous as it is/was made out to be.

^ I think that the potential risks were far greater moreso than the actual dangers. However, did anyone catch how York was explaining AI coping to Carolina before the battle? Did she ever have an AI (IE Sigma), for a short time beforehand, or did she directly give it to Maine? If she did never get Implanted with Sigma at all, then that could help explain why her AI went batshit crazy instead of just causing severe headaches.

Now, if only we could get Lopez and Sister back.

Lopez would be pretty easy to bring back into the show. True, he's a scarecrow now, but he mentioned creating backups before he was shot by Wash.

As for Sister, it does seem unlikely, but given that Grif himself doesn't believe she's really dead (and for good reason), I wouldn't count her out quite yet.

Well that was...Yikes O_O

I hope that is an Engineer, because if not the only other thing it looked like was Flood, and that would just WHAM this even further than what they're doing to Alpha.

So that's how they make them...

I agree that it is probably an Engineer helping Project Freelancer.

Just watched Recon ep 19, finished Relocated, and now on Recreation 3.

Damn, who would have thought that this series would go this far.

Watching Revelation now.

Whoa, what do you know, Doc is actually alive. Oh. He might regret it now.

Ep 3

HOLY SHIT, ANIMATION! SHITS ARE GETTIN SO FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!

edited 28th Sep '12 7:53:38 PM by dRoy

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Don't say goodbye

I hate goodbyes

Alisson

Finally got around to watching this weeks episode...well that was heart-rending; actually seeing Wash have his implantation and initial breakdown, CT's 'will', our first glimpse of the original Allison... chilling stuff.

Okay, I am almost CONVINCED that Sigma is going to make a return in the present timeline. For several reasons:

1) It has been established by Delta in this season that A.I's can make backups of themselves. Given Sigma's intelligence, the fact that Wash had been known to resort to EMPS in the past (He uses it in the flashbacks of season 10) and the fact that Delta was with them at the time, It makes sense that Sigma would have anticipated Washington's plan prepared a back up of himself (And possibly the other A.I's as well)

2) Carolina is obssessed with making the Director pay for destroying her team, SOMEONE has to deliver the Wham Line that it was really all her fault. And who better to do it than the one who manipulated her in the first place?

3) Sigma is just far, FAR too awesome to just leave in the past.