This sounds like a pretty good proposal overall, though I question whether we really need a Posted Works section, given that there's plenty of places on the internet for that already. Outside of that nitpick, I would support this. Edit: Why is it bluelinked?
edited 23rd Mar '11 9:08:48 PM by nrjxll
It's easy, mmkay?
Would completed scripts for visual works count as "completed work"?
At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff...
@ Mr. AHR: Yes. Just make sure that if it is say, a second draft or something that you mention in your post that it is a second draft. @ nrjxll: I know what you mean, but I think that it doesn't hurt if more people get around to looking at it. Also I don't know why it is blue linking either, because it should be red linking. >.> @ P Down: Yes. @ QQQQQ: I think that is a good idea, I'll send you a pm relatively soon of what I am thinking about posting on Wiki Talk.
Has ADD, plays World of Tanks, thinks up crazy ideas like children making spaceships for Hitler. Occasionally writes them down.
RE Yes/No questions from the first page: It is a lot quicker, but it certainly doesn't help people put more effort into feedback if their answers can just be boiled down to one word. Also, it doesn't generate a good volley of exchanges, it's just a simple once back-and-forth thing. RE putting an ongoing story or a series of short fiction into one thread: That is perfectly fine. A table of contents would make things handy for the reader. RE "dripping with GENIUS" bulletpoint: It's the snarky way of saying "Do not write about your story as if you are writing more of the story. Answer questions in a businesslike manner. Critics do not like wading through figurative language and creative punctuation for information." RE Post something that isn't finished work in one of the "List Your _____" threads: I could have phrased it more tactfully, yes. But honestly, those don't breed constructive criticism, or even discussion. It's just a bunch of people posting their ideas without once commenting on someone else's. Which is why I agree with the thought of separating writer's block into a feedback forum and a concept forum. Edit: If I missed something I'll put it in later.
edited 24th Mar '11 10:01:53 AM by Leradny
"•Get mad when someone says something you don't like." But what if you really, really don't want certain kinds of feedback, and you've said so very clearly, but people insist on giving that feedback rather than something actually helpful? Are you allowed to get mad at them then? I mean, I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I didn't want anyone to ever say 'it can't be done' to me, yet people still said it about my story in which a ghost compares himself to someone with locked in syndrome. Should I just give up on posting on TV Tropes, or is there some way to stop this sort of thing that I haven't realized yet?
If I'm asking for advice on a story idea, don't tell me it can't be done.
But what if you really, really don't want certain kinds of feedback, and you've said so very clearly, but people insist on giving that feedback rather than something actually helpful? Are you allowed to get mad at them then?I don't really advocate getting mad at people over the internet anyway. Just repeat the fact that you're asking the critics to focus on certain things and explain why you don't want the feedback, if you didn't do so in the notes. A concrete reason is usually what it takes, in my experience.
edited 24th Mar '11 10:19:06 AM by Leradny
Rule #1 of Internet Survival: Never get mad at people on the internet. They usually aren't worth your hate. So follow Leradny's advice, and if that doesn't work, just ignore 'em. Pester a mod if someone becomes truly obnoxious, following you around the forums specifically to insult your works/ideas.
edited 24th Mar '11 10:21:39 AM by KillerClowns
Actually, nobody ever said in that thread that your idea can't be done. The closest it got was "It's not already done. You need to add more misery to the ghost, but I'm out of ideas. Also, too much misery may end up looking ridiculous, so be careful." You may have been overreacting a bit.
Ettina: If they are saying it, even if you don't want to hear it, maybe they are saying it for a reason.
Double Post: If you have more than two threads that are specifically about your work already active, making more is not a good idea, as sooner or later, people will notice and not be so invested in helping.
People notice. But I don't believe they'll be any less inclined to help, if you're asking interesting questions.
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