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Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
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#1: Mar 19th 2011 at 6:06:35 AM

I genuinely don't know if this is sarcastic or not.

edited 18th Apr '11 7:50:01 AM by Myrmidon

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DarkDecapodian The Prodigal Returns from the fold Since: Apr, 2009
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#2: Mar 19th 2011 at 6:58:56 AM

Wilfully obscure and self-serving, but there's an element of truth in that article. Charlie Sheen's 'breakdown' is more truthful to the heart of celebrity and, by extension, the desires of those who watch celebrities than a thousand carefully scripted, po-faced interviews could ever be.

Oh, and you've gotta love the smug self-righteousness in the comments. So much fake concern for someone they claim to hate.

[down] From what I can parse, Bret's concept of 'Empire' is the masquerade of gentility and self-denial we maintain in order to keep things civil. 'Post-Empire' strips away the artifice and nobility to show the dirt underneath. I personally wouldn't call 21st century media culture more honest, just less fettered.

edited 19th Mar '11 7:49:19 AM by DarkDecapodian

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#3: Mar 19th 2011 at 7:32:07 AM

That made no sense, can someone explain it better?

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Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
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#4: Mar 19th 2011 at 7:33:12 AM

I mostly agree with the comments section, actually.

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#5: Mar 19th 2011 at 7:54:24 AM

...

Did he just call Charlie Sheen and Lady Gaga hipsters?

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Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
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#6: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:01:56 AM

I think you mean post-Empire.

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zoulza WHARRGARBL Since: Dec, 2010
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#7: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:29:32 AM

Watching Bret Easton Ellis flail around, trying so hard to be deep and insightful is almost as painful as watching Charlie Sheen's meltdown.

Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
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#8: Mar 19th 2011 at 1:32:07 PM

That made no sense, can someone explain it better?
Okay, so there's this thing called the media empire right? And it's bad, or maybe it's not bad. And there are people associated with it like Christina Aguilera and Bob Dylan and Anne Hathaway, and they're lame(except for Hathaway, because she got naked in a movie once). And there are these super-special-awesome people who fight against the empire by giving them the hedonistic meaningless garbage they want like Nicki Minaj and Charlie Sheen and James Franco and the cast of Jersey Shore. And this is good. Or bad. Or something.

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Schitzo HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE from Akumajou Dracula Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: LA Woman, you're my woman
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#9: Mar 19th 2011 at 4:34:02 PM

Ugh... Ellis really should stick back to his shock n shlock writing. He's trying to hard to be Hunter S Thompson and is failing, miserably.

edited 19th Mar '11 4:35:36 PM by Schitzo

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#10: Mar 19th 2011 at 5:49:07 PM

So he's in favor of being "real" and by being "real" he means behaving outlandishly?

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Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
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#11: Mar 19th 2011 at 5:53:42 PM

I think. What I know about his prior work suggests this could be either satire or serious.

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johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#12: Mar 19th 2011 at 7:16:41 PM

I (guiltily) agree with most the article. Though whenever a columnist talks like this, I always suspect it to be some kind of marketing ploy.

He lost me on page 2, the part about public mockery being part of show business, yet the best response is to troll right back. I would've phrased it different. The moral of Sheengate, to me, is that we should accept actors as people, not role models to be evaluated. That point got muddled in this article, it was just full of post-irony vomit.

edited 19th Mar '11 7:21:08 PM by johnnyfog

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Myrmidon The Ant King from In Antartica Since: Nov, 2009
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#13: Mar 20th 2011 at 10:59:02 AM

He's just telling us that it is no longer, in fact, hip to be square.

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