The History Thread!

Speaking of WWII, what happened to Wilhelm Hoffman anyways?

35 years ago, on this day, Josip Broz Tito passed away.

edited 4th May '15 10:43:04 AM by Quag15

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edited 4th May '15 9:20:08 PM by SantosLHalper

So I kept hearing a lot about The Hundred and Sixteen Years War and it came to me:

Who actually won the war?

So I looked up Wikipedia, and in the three separate wars, England won the first war, but France won the other two.

So...I guess it can be said that France won the Hundred Years War?

edited 5th May '15 11:07:04 AM by dRoy

Considering how the dynastic question got solved and how much territory France recovered from England and took away from the Burgundians... Yeah, they won.

Ah.

For some reason, I was under impression that England did. Huh.

edited 5th May '15 11:12:05 AM by dRoy

The main part of it that England won was the Glyndwr Rising which returned English control of Wales back to England.

Remember though that it did happen in periods, and some of the earlier successes happened in England's favour.

Edit: TVT hates some of the characters I was using.

edited 5th May '15 11:17:13 AM by RatherRandomRachel

England won because they burned the witch! But then France got her sainted so they won!

Holy does have stat advantage against Evil types.

Video games tell me that the witch they burned was actually an imposter, while the real one was a Magical Girl who battled demons.

But more seriously, yeah, the French won, given that they kept the crowns separate and reclaimed almost all of their land that had been in English hands (as I recall, everything but Calais). And then, before the century was out, seized control of Burgundy's lands (except for the part the Habsburgs took).

wut

It's a reference to this.

Yep, and I actually have that one.

There's also the fact that Wales as a nation was basically ruled over by many Fiefdoms and various Welsh rulers who in many cases joined Owain Glyndwr in rebellion, but a few stuck with England.^note Including my ancestors, which I eternally hate them for.

Glyndwr basically told the King of France and the Pope in Avignon that he would swear Welsh alligience to France and against the Pope in Rome, but that didn't much help matters. By that time, the rebellion was basically over and those Welsh lords who retained loyalty to the English crown were rewarded, at the cost of their fellow Welshmen.

why japan

Because it was cool.

Whether you agree that it was is another matter.

edited 5th May '15 1:00:39 PM by Balmung

That must have sucked (and it still sucks, in a way). Then again, the body of Llywelyn ap Gruffudd was already cold by then, and the Welsh didn't really had a rallying figure on the same level capable of attracting most or all the fiefdoms.

edited 5th May '15 1:16:10 PM by Quag15

I haven't gone that far in that game (yet). lol

edited 5th May '15 6:20:38 PM by entropy13

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You guys all know about the laws of hospitality.

So it got me wondering; what if you CAN'T afford food nor safety for your guest? Is it okay to simply politely refuse to have someone as a guest, or would that make people mock you for being too poor?

That depends on where you are - in some places it's often simply been that you allow them to stay because rest is the most important part.

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@dRoy: Wait, you thought England won the Hundred Years War? That's kinda interesting. Did you believe that the English king successfully took the French throne? When did you think France broke free of England, then?

It was more the other way around; for example, Norman French was the language of the English Court until the 15th century and at least at first, the French (Norman) holdings were the more important. What became England was a Remnant, a Vestigial Empire of much larger holdings on the continent, as it were.

It certainly wasn't anything like the American Revolution, that is certain.

edited 8th May '15 11:51:44 AM by Greenmantle

I was talking to a guy who (previously) thought the English won the Hundred Years War.

edited 8th May '15 1:27:50 PM by Druplesnubb