"I would understand if the dolphons had been visibly mistreated, but as the story stands... they made them perform the show when they didn't want to. A bit unfair, perhaps, but we make animals do things they don't want to do all the time. When I take my dog for a walk and insist that it keeps walking with me rather than stopping to play with another dog, is that cruel?"
Maybe that's a tiny bit mean. I think looking at it as a sliding scale of cruelty might be best. But interpret it how you will.
"My point is that personal respect and moral equality are central to individual rights; to respect someone as an individual, you must recognize their ability to hold themselves to the same standard. If they do not have that ability, then it's really just a case of you acting out a pantomime of ethicality while the other party remains indifferent."
Sure, that's vital to the functioning of our society. That doesn't mean caring about moral patients isn't too. As it is, I'm quite sure they're not indifferent.
"This thread is so far off the tracks that it's not worth trying to rerail."
Um, not really. We we're just getting really philosophical. You know, how we should treat other species and why. If you think that's irrelevant, well I'd disagree. These are the fundamentals which are at the heart of this. They're why people disagree. But I suppose it's useless trying to debate this with a mod.
edited 26th Feb '11 9:31:15 PM by LoveHappiness