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edited 3rd Oct '14 1:27:15 PM by Madrugada
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
Hello! A-gnostic only because religion doesn't factor into my life. If I've got a problem, I ask my friends who I trust to suggest things to me, and not a priest who I trust will do the same while exerting authority over me. I think that, if there is a God, he gave us reason so that we can figure things out on our own, not so that he could order around a bunch of relatively insignificant creatures who don't matter all that much in the present. If he judges me to be a person worthy of hell, then to hell with him. I try my best to be a good person, and if it doesn't measure up to his standards because I occasionally did stuff on Sunday, so sue me.
Very big Daydream Believer.
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Can I KCK it?
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How old are you?
There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
20. Tat was probably a bit of an agressive stance, wasn't it?
Very big Daydream Believer.
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Can I KCK it?
@Enkurfka Oh, just a tad.
There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
Sorry. I'm tired of the sermonizing religious groups near me who act like I'm going to hell for not worshiping exactly what they preach...
Very big Daydream Believer.
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Neutral agnostic, here.
Things make people happy
Enkufka and KCK: That wasn't an aggressive stance at all, unless you two think that any and all statements that are even slightly negative towards a religion are 'agressive'.
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Can I KCK it?
@Enfurka Do you believe them?
@Funnyguts I apologize, I should not have said anything at all; the word I had in mind was not aggressive.
There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
Not really. Religion to me is something you have, and its supposed to be a personal thing, and then they come to me and say that I'm going to hell for not believing in their facet of god.
Also, its Enkufka, not Enkurfka. No r.
Very big Daydream Believer.
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
In Riastrad
@En: I like that stance XD
My name is Cu Chulainn.
Beside the raging sea I am left to moan.
Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.
Beside the raging sea I am left to moan.
Sorrow I am, for I brought down my only son.
Can I KCK it?
@Enkufka I am a very lousy speller, so my apologies.
Also, religion—which is far too broad a term for this situation—is usually supposed to be a way of life; thus it should be shown through actions so keeping those actions to one's self would be defeating the purpose, depending on what the religion dictates.
What you're bothered by is a particular form of evangelizing, which is understandable; I am bothered by it as well.
There's no justice in the world and there never was~
Agnostic atheist here. I don't believe in a god, but I don't claim to know that there isn't one. As Dawkins says, I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there.
Things make people happy
Random question: What does everyone think of atheist/humanist rituals? For example, having a 'welcome to the world' ritual for a newborn in place of a baptism.
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Hollywood Atheist, reporting.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
Uncle George
Agnostic atheist, though firm believer that if there is any possibility of a supreme power, it's not like described by any religion (expect maybe the small ones and Sikhism) and probably doesn't care about humanity.
I have some tokken interest in Buddhism, but it's mostly aesthetic. The same way, I like the Catholic solidarity, Sikh egelitarianism, and other different aspects of various religions. But just because the religions have positive aspects, I don't like the implication of a supernatural ruler being required to live by those positive aspects.
This love so bold goes undeclared/a joy unseen, a world unknown/a love that dare not speak its name/hidden treasure, precious stone
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
I am agnostic with atheist tendecies
and mainly, I am against faith, that is different than being against religion. I don't like the concept that "believe in something without seeing" or "You need to believe in something" is a virtue by any level.
That said, I am not really against in people having faith, as long they don't actively try to impose they faith my life. The problem is that faith does seem to cause people to go Well Intentioned Extremit and try to impose faith in others, so I am very paranoic about religious followers and I think is natural that they would try to destroy my freedom of though "in the name of the lord".
"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Gerald Zosewater
Well, I think it would be very hard to believe in nothing at all. For example, most of us assume that our senses give us an accurate account of our surroundings, but that's demonstrably not always the case. Furthermore, I think it would be very hard to function if you did not have some basic expectation of something like cause and effect.
So, I guess belief is something that is important, but it's something that ought to have a logical basis behind it for it to be most accurate and helpful.
Ruining everything forever.
Gerald Zosewater
What do you disagree with, exactly?
Ruining everything forever.
Mystical Monkey Master
You said "I think it would be very hard to believe in nothing at all" when in fact it foolish to believe in a deity due to the fact that science had proven that every clame in religious text is bullshit.
DUMB
science had proven that every clame in religious text is bullshit
bitchy queen
Science has not proven if there is/is not a God.
"Without a fairy, you're not even a real man!" ~ Mido from Ocarina of Time
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
Indeed, while the bible may not be literal (which most americans seem to forget) it is a book of faith. Many scientists are religious, or at the very least spiritual, and science cannot currently define what goes on after death. Having a bit of faith in what is to come is, paradoxically, not all that irrational.
Very big Daydream Believer.
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
"That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray
"Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Mystical Monkey Master
Creation myth-proven false
The Jesus story-rip off of multiple other older religious text
