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LogicallyDashing Since: Sep, 2010
#1: Feb 20th 2011 at 2:22:35 PM

At the end of the trope description for Love Makes You Evil is a discussion on how it doesn't make sense for an emotion to make a person evil, since the point of having morals is that you don't break them no matter how much you want to.

This implies that no emotion can ever be considered the cause of a person turning evil. If you love someone very dearly and bend your morals to help them—and the fact of bending your morals causes a general moral decline, as it might—your morals were weak to begin with. That's a No True Scotsman argument.

I would just delete this, but it seems like someone put a lot of thought into that paragraph. What do?

SilentReverence adopting kitteh from 3 tiles right 1 tile up Since: Jan, 2010
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#3: Feb 20th 2011 at 2:40:19 PM

No, this is a valid place to talk about it. Descriptions are part of what the TRS covers. That said, I think it's a nattery side point and it needs to go.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
LogicallyDashing Since: Sep, 2010
#4: Feb 20th 2011 at 3:19:45 PM

I actually did post about it on the discussion page. No one responded and I came up with a better way of saying what I wanted to say about it so I came here.

Wulf Gotta trope, dood! from Louisiana Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Feb 20th 2011 at 4:43:13 PM

Here's the exact paragraph in question. Here for your convenience and mine.

Of course, the very concept is Fridge Logic. The willingness to do morally questionable things reflects poorly on their morality regardless of their motives. Love didn't make them evil; it brought the implications of their shaky moral foundations to the surface. Or so every girl tries to tell her Prince Charming Wannabe, for whom this never seems to sink in.

Hm... I think with a rewrite, it could work. Maybe something like;

For some, the very concept can be Fridge Logic-The willingness to do morally questionable things reflects poorly on a person's morality, regardless of their motives. Love doesn't make a person evil-Already being evil does. All love can do is give them a little push.

This way, it's not stated as an absolute, but still gets brought up.

They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#6: Feb 20th 2011 at 4:50:12 PM

I don't think we need to talk about it at all. Tropes Are Not Good and Tropes Are Not Bad and we don't need to comment on whether or not its usage is logical or correct. I'd be fine zapping the paragraph entirely.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Feb 20th 2011 at 4:53:51 PM

Yes, kill that part. People don't need to hear how tropes lead to Unfortunate Implications or Fridge Logic and how they should hate them.

Cut the offending sections.

edited 20th Feb '11 4:56:17 PM by Deboss

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Dapifer Yautja Hunter Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: Jun 28th 2011 at 11:29:31 PM

I agree with leaving the judgments to the reader and vote in favor of removing that last bit entirely.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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