This foreboding is fa...
Short version: Because if we don't give our young anything, society breaks.
Long version: We've evolved to have a need to take care of our young the same way we've evolved to have them. Smarter *, weaker *, and longer maturation times = more parental responsibility. So basically the same reasons all animals take care of their young, but for longer because of our unique variations.
edited 13th Feb '11 1:48:41 AM by deathjavu
Look, you can't make me speak in a logical, coherent, intelligent bananna.
I see the Awesomeness.
Obligation: none. There is a good reason to though.
Fight smart, not fair.
Happy New Year!
Seeing how this delightful picture is on your troper page Deboss. I take it your not a kid person. 
edited 13th Feb '11 4:40:55 AM by joeyjojo
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Parents have a responsibility to the children they choose to bring into the world.
Our individual young, or the collective young? My children, or everyone's children?
Eh, child support is one of those obligations that one can dodge, so long as one flees to Tijuana and lives under an assumed name.
They see me troll'n
I don't really feel like getting into the nuances of the sexist nature of child support, which is, almost always charged upon the father. Mostly because it is an incredibly tedious argument which I've no pleasure in taking.
Suffice to say, I don't believe child support should exist at all. And it fact, it's far too easy to abuse to allow it to continue.
edited 13th Feb '11 8:45:02 AM by CommandoDude
My other signature is a Gundam.
Yeah it's a system that has noble aims, but often poor execution. The system does need an overhaul to fix the various bugs.
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Parents have a responsibility to the children they choose to bring into the world.What if they didn't choose to?
Our individual young, or the collective young? My children, or everyone's children?I'd assume "my children". That only makes sense — as a civilization we impose horrible burdens on anyone who (actually) wants to take care of a non-blood related person, so I don't think we actually want to rationally impose such responsability over other's children, to top it.
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Happy New Year!
it just seems fundamentally wrong to me. Surely if anyone owes anyone anything, it's the child that is indebted towards the parent for giving them the gift of life.
edited 14th Feb '11 3:35:00 AM by joeyjojo
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Am I the only one who thinks that parents do have a duty towards their children?
I mean, somebody has to pay for their needs. They need parents of some description.
Be not afraid...
Happy New Year!
Kids are leeches. Why can't they pull their own weight? Tell them to get a job.
edited 14th Feb '11 3:45:51 AM by joeyjojo
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Yes, you send those twoyearolds down the coalmine, joeyjojo...
Be not afraid...
Happy New Year!
*Throws a copy of Atlas Shrugged at Loni jay's nose*
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it you hippie! 
edited 14th Feb '11 4:15:28 AM by joeyjojo
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FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
I see the Awesomeness.
The child is not indebted because they did not ask for it, it was a donation in the hopes of eventual return.
Fight smart, not fair.
Can I KCK it?
@Best Of Thanks for sharing that link, I needed a good laugh. ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
Maddox delivers every time.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
Happy New Year!
* No more running, jumping, dancing, or fun. Kids don't deserve to have fun. They have to earn the air they breathe. * Penalty for graffiti: Death. No more of this correctional center bullshit. * Penalty for disobedience: Castration. Disobedient children don't deserve to procreate.* Penalty for experimentation with drugs or sex: Castration and then Death. We want to send them a strong message about this one. * Penalty for ditching school: Hmm.. I'm going with Death on this one, just to be safe. * Penalty for being outside beyond curfew: No penalty. Any children outside beyond their curfew will fall victim to rabid dogs and vampires. That should do it for now. With these rules, we shouldn't have any more problems with kids falling out of line. With total supervision, they can't screw up. And if they do, they will be shot. It's simple, and effective. Positive reinforcement in a child's life only leads to communism. Lets prevent it from ever happening again.
edited 14th Feb '11 5:31:49 AM by joeyjojo
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I see the Awesomeness.
I thought the plan was to release motorized chainsaws to roam the streets?
Fight smart, not fair.
likes the cheeses.
Society has to collectively decide who it would prefer to support in these kinds of situations.
Children, the (more or less) blank slates that they are, only have a 50% chance of becoming douchebags later in life.
Parents that saddle the other parent with a child and skip out with no promise of support are more likely to trend higher on the scale.
Society has simply sided with the group that has a lower probability of being douchebags is all. (Plus, it hopes that the children receiving greater support will be less likely to become future douchebags.)
edited 14th Feb '11 10:04:01 AM by Meeble
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What obligation (if any) do we owe our young? What responsibility does an individual have to to any prodigy? Why should having a child forced some one to sacrifice their time and money (as well as their personal dreams and freedoms) if they choose not to be a part in that child's life?
Note: this thread is about child support. it is NOT about gender injustices or double standards
edited 13th Feb '11 1:29:19 AM by joeyjojo
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