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Rottweiler Dog and Pony Show from Portland, Oregon Since: Dec, 2009
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#1: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:18:45 PM

Background: In the state of Oregon, the law requires the death sentence be given by a unanimous jury. Judges can't do it.

If you were a juror in this aggravated murder case, what would your initial thoughts be?

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#2: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:27:30 PM

I think the death sentence would be too kind. Life in prison, general population would be more fitting.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:31:40 PM

Agreed, death is too good for some people.

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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:34:59 PM

Death penalty for her, felony neglect charges on the husband.

I'd have to use every iota of strength as a juror not to leap out of the box and beat the mother to death myself.

I don't like the prolonging of suffering, even for those who deserve it. End her miserable life and get it over with is my vote. I'll pull the damn switch myself.

edited 11th Feb '11 6:35:41 PM by Barkey

zoulza WHARRGARBL Since: Dec, 2010
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#5: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:35:07 PM

My first thoughts would be that she deserves a slow and painful death, like the one she inflicted on her daughter. Then, when the RAEG subsides, I would realise that this would never happen, as death penalties have to be "humane." As such, I agree with the above: life in prison with the general population would be pretty good.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#6: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:37:49 PM

Frankly, that's the sort of thing oubliettes are perfect for.

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Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#7: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:38:01 PM

It's times like this I wish Hell was a real place, because no earthly punishment is enough for this creature.

Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#8: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:39:07 PM

Just send her to prison and let her get raped to death.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Feb 11th 2011 at 6:47:12 PM


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CommandoDude They see me troll'n from Cauhlefohrnia Since: Jun, 2010
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#10: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:09:37 PM


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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#11: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:11:28 PM

Well, I say we just shoot the bitch with a .30-06 to the head and be done with it.

edited 11th Feb '11 7:11:50 PM by MarkVonLewis

Rottweiler Dog and Pony Show from Portland, Oregon Since: Dec, 2009
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#12: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:11:48 PM

[up][up] What are your thoughts on the sentencing, though?

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KCK Can I KCK it? from In your closet Since: Jul, 2010
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#13: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:12:59 PM

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That aside, I strongly advocate the death penalty in this case.

edited 11th Feb '11 7:16:32 PM by Madrugada

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#14: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:31:41 PM

I never advocate the death penalty on a matter of principle. That said, these are the cases that convince me that a lifetime of hard labour for the state (leasable to private investors, the state could make some money this way) is a valid punishment.

Anyone who does this is too evil or too insane to be redeemable for use in society, and somebody's gotta make those license plates. Hope all that beating your defenseless kid gave you strong arms bitch, you're gonna damn well use 'em.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Rottweiler Dog and Pony Show from Portland, Oregon Since: Dec, 2009
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#15: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:37:05 PM

[up] Interesting that you should say "or insane." One of the defendant's two public defenders tried to ask a question leading toward her having been mentally incapacitated at that time, and you wouldn't believe how fast the judge sustained the prosecutor's objection.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:47:58 PM

I'm okay with the death penalty in cases like this. A quick, clean death. It's not like this sort of person is going to be rehabilitated anyway. Though comments expressing interest in making the woman suffer before dying disturb me.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#17: Feb 11th 2011 at 7:49:42 PM

^^Want her in jail forever/death penalty instead of in a hospital forever, I guess.

Does Oregon even have the death penalty? EDIT: Yes it does, this is what I get for skipping threads.

edited 11th Feb '11 7:50:07 PM by Tzetze

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#18: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:13:12 PM


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#19: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:39:39 PM


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#20: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:45:09 PM

Who'd a thunk it!

I wouldn't be sympathetic though.

Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#21: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:45:28 PM


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#22: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:47:34 PM


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Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#23: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:50:32 PM

I believe in turning a blind eye to the suffering of folks like that, but if it were up to me it'd be a quick, clean, expedited death sentence.

SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#24: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:52:39 PM

Wonder why the hell the jury decided to call up a 16 year old schoolboy with little to no knowledge of the legal system, and a very muddled morality.

The actual decision would depend on a number of factors, including how sympathetic the case was to me, and when the last time I held my teddybear was.

edited 11th Feb '11 8:53:15 PM by SpainSun

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25: Feb 11th 2011 at 8:53:44 PM

Intentionally making someone suffer for their crimes would lessen me as a person. It serves no purpose other than satisfaction, and when you're getting satisfaction from someone's pain something is wrong.


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