Spider-Man General Discussion

He was also run out of town for being Chuck Austen.

I was thinking of adding that; does one really need a reason to run Chuck Austen out of town on a rail?

Oh is he one of those artists that people hate?

It was really a "Lex Luthor and that asshole Clark Kent" show.

He's actually a writer often considered one of the worst in the history of the medium. He is, among other things, generally agreed to have had the worst X-Men run of all time.

edited 10th Sep '14 9:48:37 PM by HamburgerTime

It was an obvious joke. But sometimes even the obvious joke needs to be said.

He's one of those writers everyone hates. Like Jeph Loeb. He wrote for a lot of high-profile books, which were pretty much all panned. His Uncanny X-Men was atrocious - he revealed that the Church of Humanity had a plot to get Nightcrawler declared the Pope, then reveal his appearance to make people think he was the Antichrist, and at the same time to kill all the Catholics with exploding Communion wafers to make the world believe the Rapture had started. If that seems like a pretty reasonable plan to you, you're probably Chuck Austen.

He revealed that there used to be a pair of races of angelic and demonic mutants who eventually wiped each other out, but somehow Angel is descended from the angelic mutants, and Nightcrawler is the son of one of the demonic mutants, Azazel, who was trapped in a limbo dimension and kept escaping to make lots of kids so he could use them to escape the dimension he'd been escaping for decades. This arc also had Havok offering to piss on Iceman's head.

He also did a horrible, horrible Romeo & Juliet knock-off using one of Cannonball's brothers.

He wrote an Avengers run that was generally considered awful, though honestly, I can barely even remember any of it. I think he had Hawkeye and the Wasp randomly hook up. And he introduced a new female Captain Britain who, for some reason, wasn't allowed to tell her kids she was still alive.

Chuck Austen sucks.

I can just imagine this happening if their had plan worked:

"Sir, all of the Catholics are dead! The fake rapture plan was a success!"

"Excellent!"

"But, uh, what about everybody else?"

".....What?"

"Everybody else. Like the one's who weren't Catholic. Or weren't Christian. Or were atheist. Or Thor."

".....fuuuuuuck."

edited 10th Sep '14 11:04:26 PM by ScarletCajun

"Or lapsed Catholics. Or the Catholics who decided not to eat Communion wafers after seeing one of their friends explode. Come to think of it, how the fuck was this plan supposed to work, exactly?"

That's dumb. That's all dumb. THAT'S REALLY DUMB.

Oh well, he also brought back Xorn which is worth it just for the agony of 'Xorn's twin brother was pretending to be Magneto pretending to be Xorn because he was high but now Xorn joined the cast because and somewhere Morrison is angrily eying a sniper rifle.'

That's not even getting into the fact that the minority Christians that believe in the Rapture (probably 10-20 million out of 2 billion), tend to be from sects that have a low opinion of Catholics and would be unlikely to believe that they constituted the true believers.

Ah, shilling a new girl by derailing an old one.

edited 11th Sep '14 2:37:37 PM by CL

Let me just say it'd take a lot for me to turn against Dan Slott. Everything I've read by him indicates he's an excellent plotter who plans several arcs in advance, and very good at humor. However, this news is concerning me. There was commonly speculation at CBR that Slott would make Peter's established love interests hate him to introduce one of his own, which I would not like, both for the obvious that's-not-very-good-storytelling reason and because I never like it when those arrogant little CBR twits turn out to be right.

From the the comics I've read by Dan Slott, I can say he's a very good writer. From the forum posts I've read by Dan Slott, I can say he's a very big asshole.

He's certainly a gadfly at the very least. Though I do think treating the prospect of MJ being raped as a joke (especially since he didn't actually do it) crossed a line.

Oh, and with Electro now old news, I wonder how long it will be before he's replaced by a young bald black guy.

Given what they did to Nick Fury?

I'm guessing it'll happen the next time they decide they want to use Electro again.

His most recent look kind of resembles the film version already, being bald with weird markings on his face, though still white.

That's his Ultimate look, isn't it? And really, ANYTHING is an improvement for Electro.

edited 11th Sep '14 10:54:55 PM by maxwellelvis

Chuck Austen....he let's a lot of his real world hangups bleed into his comics which typically resulted in gross Character Derailment.

Tiamatty covered probably one of his more infamous storylines, but he also wrote other crap like randomly turning Iceman into an asshole who looked down on all the other X-Men who weren't part of the founding team like him. He had Polaris suffer a mental breakdown and try murder a woman Havok cheated on her with, who inexplicably, as based on his real life wife. He turned Lois Lane into a harpy because he much preferred Superman to be with Lana Lang.

And he accused all of his critics of being trolls.

edited 12th Sep '14 11:27:52 AM by Lionheart0

A few Slott holes from ASM this week:

1) Otto's web dissolving solution is used on Peter to get rid of the webbing Silk used on him as a buffer against Electro's blasts. Silk's webs are organic, Peter's are an artificial chemical compound that looks and (for the most part) behaves like real spider webs. I'm not a scientist, but this shouldn't have worked since Otto's solution was tailored for Peter, not for someone else.

2) What happened to the Electro-proof suit from the 90s? It should't have been have destroyed with the other stuff Peter made while using the "Spidey's tech guy" cover. Did it get destroyed in the original story? Why didn't he make another one?

3) Silk gets a job at the Fact Channel as an intern. Y'know, with that diploma/GED, any form of identification, and resumé that she doesn't have after living in Ezekiel's box for the past 13 years.

edited 12th Sep '14 12:10:12 PM by ScarletCajun

So I got Edge of Spider-Verse 2.

I like Spider-Gwen.

As do I.

I did too. I hope to see more Spider-Gwen after this event is over.

she's gonna die harder than anyone has ever died in an event. I just hope anya and mayday survive.

Nice reference to Spider-Lizard◊.