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deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4626: Oct 27th 2017 at 7:21:23 PM

Things have changed, obviously, but I remember solo'ing stuff with my sorc while hiding behind Khem. Slow, but fun.

Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4627: Dec 24th 2017 at 8:18:11 PM

Started playing smuggler and went for a more ruthless approach for his way of dealing with things. He does have his good moments like with his helping the lawman when he was in the capital. Going on a treasure hunt is certainly different from the other stories.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#4628: Dec 24th 2017 at 8:28:17 PM

The Smuggler has my favorite personality of all of the classes.

This song needs more love.
Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4629: Dec 25th 2017 at 7:59:09 AM

The strong point of the Smuggler is definitely their personality.

The weak point is that the story starts to feel a bit aimless after the first act.

edited 25th Dec '17 8:23:26 AM by Ekimmak

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.
Hackett13 Since: May, 2017
#4630: Dec 25th 2017 at 11:35:07 AM

So how is the game still? I remember playing it at launch for a year or so till I drifted onto other things.

After watching TLJ I started to get a hankering for another Star Wars fix and I never did finish all the class storylines.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#4631: Dec 25th 2017 at 11:52:37 AM

It's considerably better than it was at launch, other than possibly in terms of the rebalance, which a lot of people complained about as dumbing things down. But it's still a ton of content, and while it's not all perfect, there's definitely some high points, and a lot of replayability in a game that's nowhere near as grind-y as it used to be.

Did you play all the class quests? If you haven't, Imperial Agent is fantastic, easily one of the better-written Star Wars games all by itself. Trooper and Scoundrel are personal favourites. Bounty Hunter and Sith Warrior are pretty good if you get into your character. Trooper, Scoundrel, and Bounty Hunter do a really good job of nailing the feel of their particular archetypes, so if you want to play a Republic Commando, a Bounty Hunter, or Han Solo, not many games have done it better.

Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#4632: Dec 25th 2017 at 11:06:57 PM

So I jumped back into the game intending to maybe finally finish up a few stories, at least catch up with the latest story content. You know, The Last Jedi came out, in a Star Wars-y mood. So, erm. You know, I was just about done with Iokath, just needed to do the last walker fight, so I quickly finished that off and did the rest of the later story stuff.

I have some thoughts, I'll tell you that much! So Theron has always been a victim, in terms of characterisation, of the fact the character I took through the expansions was a Sith loyalist, pragmatic, patriotic Imperial Agent. They'd been solidly neutral during their own storyline and within the context of Empire-quests — maybe even light-side — but once they were put in the expansions they'd made a lot of cold decisions, enough that Theron continuing to back the Alliance became very hard to take seriously. My character didn't really bond or have too much chemistry with him, either; but that's RPGs for you, I suppose.

So Theron just betraying me wasn't altogether out-of-place. It felt a bit more out-of-place as Theron continued to pine for us in cutscenes after I offered him fleets to command, but hey. What felt ridiculous, to me, was Theron betraying me so he could shave his head and join a cult! You know, for "peace". I know they'll reveal more down the line but it's a very bizarre explanation. Gonna be square: I laughed at seeing his makeover. Okay, so obviously we probably shouldn't take him too much at his face. There's two real possibilities I immediately see: 1) Theron is going all triple agent, which would make all this drama feel kind of forced; or, 2) Theron has genuinely joined a cult to wipe out all three major civilisations "for peace".

Neither of these explanations would be particularly satisfactory for me. Though I'm not sure what a satisfactory explanation for all this would be. It was nice to see Saganu again, incidentally, though not much was made of it.

edited 25th Dec '17 11:09:02 PM by Lavaeolus

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4633: Dec 27th 2017 at 4:03:47 AM

I slowly got turned off the game by the direction of the storyline after all the outlander stuff, but what solidly turned me off the game was by forcing you to choose to ally with either the imperials or the republic.

Mind you, I had already been soured on the game after their latest expansion, but that was the breaking point for me.

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4634: Dec 27th 2017 at 4:27:25 PM

Would have been interesting to have Nariel Pridence as a smuggler companion option.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4635: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:43:59 PM

Got to chapter 2 of smuggler story and considering Akaavi is mandalorian I question why they just didn't have her show up at the same time as Torian since it would make sense for her to go back to her people when smuggler disappears.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4636: May 4th 2018 at 1:35:29 PM

While it is just a conversation it is nice to have Felix back in the party especially since he is the character my Jedi Consular romanced so the reunion was nice.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#4637: May 4th 2018 at 3:33:07 PM

So, new update. Brings an end to the current traitor arc.

I've beaten it. Stealthed through most of it because that's what I usually do, so I was through it fairly quickly. The bosses were a bit annoying, not in that they were particularly hard, but in that 1) what you're 'meant' to do isn't immediately obvious, but 2) once you figure it out they're really simple and dull. I don't know how it is if you do a proper flashpoint for it, but whatever, we're here for the story.

I did like some of the nods at earlier choices. I know Darth Zash shows up to unleash the droid if you're an Inquisitor who chose Khem over her, and Darth Baras can show up if you spared him. On my run, as an Agent who sided with the Empire on Iokath, it was the SIS director, bit disappointing as I don't think I'd ever met them before. I've heard if you went for the Republic it's Watcher Two, which would be a nice, dramatic twist. Of course, on the flipside it potentially feels a bit of a letdown to just throw away / underutilise these returns. The SIS boss's explanation was kind of dumb; he wanted me dead because I was number three on his 'most dangerous people to the Republic' list, and was willing to destroy the entire Alliance to do it. And, like, okay, but I feel a better explanation would be to get rid of the world power I'm currently in charge of, rather than literally just to tick me off a list.

Some of the other people who helped Zildrog were mad about my choices, too. One was mad about me being buddy-buddy with Arcann, who destroyed their home and people for little justifiable reason. Indo Zal was there, and I don't know if he's always there or if it was because I both became a tyrant and used his rebels as cannon fodder way back.

Actually leaving Theron to die feels a little dumb. Partly that's okay because some people might just be playing very vindictive characters, but it's pretty clear that Theron, yes, was always on your side. I'm partly coloured by the fact I was playing an actual former spy, so pots and kettles and all that.

I understand why, but the fact that everyone currently in the Alliance, seemingly, is so loyal to me that they don't really mind who I choose to side with going forward, it undermines everyone a bit. Hey, Jorgan, you don't mind if we go team up with the black-robed cackling sorcerers, do you?

The shift to Republic/Empire again is something I'm a bit ambivalent towards. To be clear, I preferred the Republic/Empire conflict and would rather have never been forced into being this big leader figure, but it does make all of the current development feel kind of redundant. Part of me is glad to return to it, because I've never really liked this current direction, but another part of me is annoyed to essentially be discarding what we've been doing for the past however-long-it's-been. I suppose the Alliance and your place in it is still a thing, but still.

edited 4th May '18 3:38:08 PM by Lavaeolus

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4639: May 4th 2018 at 4:12:20 PM

Not that I know of so far. The most recent force user to return is Ashara Zavros.

Honestly I wonder how they will explain why it took her and scourge so long to join up with outlander.

edited 4th May '18 4:17:07 PM by Darthwyn

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#4641: May 8th 2018 at 9:59:29 PM

Honestly can't be bothered to play anymore, because throwing away all the stuff built up with the alliance was the final straw.

Neither of them are in the right, but I don't get to say so. I have to pick one or the other to "ally" with, and then use this new weapon to destroy the other side.

Just leaves an awful taste in my mouth.

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#4642: May 13th 2018 at 10:29:47 AM

So glad to be done with the Alliance and its "bOtH sIdEs ArE bAd!" plot.

edited 13th May '18 10:29:59 AM by CrimsonZephyr

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4643: May 13th 2018 at 11:19:25 AM

Pretty sure both sides were doing things that were involved in questionable actions before the whole alliance situation.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4644: May 13th 2018 at 3:24:47 PM

Sure, but at some point you have to forgive and forget. And "we just worked together to defeat an evil God-Emperor and his invincible army" is a great time to bury the hatchet.

Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4645: Feb 25th 2019 at 5:37:17 PM

Went back to playing imperial agent and republic smuggler.

Am I the only one that wishes the non force user classes could get a Jedi or sith companion in their chapter 1 - 3 stories.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#4646: Feb 25th 2019 at 6:16:54 PM

No, I definitely wanted one. Especially since they tend to have good chemistry with non force users. I guess a wookie & a generic thug will have to do.


Is Kira back yet?

CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#4647: Feb 25th 2019 at 7:02:36 PM

I think Kira's coming back in 6.0, whenever that shows up. I don't think there's a story reason for her absence; I think they planned on having her back earlier and it just became harder and harder to get Laura Bailey (who, as it happens, recently had a child) in for VO work. I think that's also why it took Jaesa the better part of four years to appear in new content. In fact, I think that pretty much governs entirely which companions we got when — SWTOR's expansive voice cast is bifurcated between the video game voice over usual suspects and the minor celebrity guest stars. Not everyone's going to be available when it's convenient.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Feb 25th 2019 at 10:07:04 AM

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#4648: Feb 25th 2019 at 7:31:30 PM

Smuggler had good opportunities to get one on the team especially since it would make for an interesting dynamic with the rest of the crew.

Imperial Agent also had one at it was the person you were sent after at first. Would been fun to have taken the Jedi that was pretty much making a cult to other locations and get her opinion on the agents situation along with her thoughts on the Voss

We definitely should have had her and the former emperor's wraith sooner.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#4649: Feb 25th 2019 at 8:07:54 PM

Kira should have been a Republic-only companion in Knights of the Eternal Throne, at the very least. She and Scourge were the companions with the deepest personal connection to the Emperor, and neither have appeared. It's a huge missed opportunity, but I'm not really sure all of it was planned very far ahead. Most of the updates interspersed through the Zakuul arcs were kind of random, write-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of things.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Feb 25th 2019 at 11:09:22 AM

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#4650: Feb 26th 2019 at 7:59:24 AM

Not everyone's going to be available when it's convenient.

True enough, but unless they're paying Bailey that well I'm pretty surprise she would even consider reprising her role as Kira. That or she's obligated/contract to voice Kira whenever they have to call her.

Smuggler had good opportunities to get one on the team especially since it would make for an interesting dynamic with the rest of the crew.

That would've been a great way to have either a Jedi or a Sith as a companion, but alas such an option was never going to be available in an MMO.

Imperial Agent also had one at it was the person you were sent after at first. Would been fun to have taken the Jedi that was pretty much making a cult to other locations and get her opinion on the agents situation along with her thoughts on the Voss

Because IA's story just wasn't engaging enough. Seriously, the only problem I had with the Agent's story was the companion but even then that's more of my problem than anything else. Well that & the lack of Jadus's plot being unresolved. Which the Jedi Knight should totally face off, no bias on my part

Kira should have been a Republic-only companion in Knights of the Eternal Throne, at the very least. She and Scourge were the companions with the deepest personal connection to the Emperor, and neither have appeared. It's a huge missed opportunity, but I'm not really sure all of it was planned very far ahead. Most of the updates interspersed through the Zakuul arcs were kind of random, write-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of things.

I still can't believe they did that. That's probably why Vitiate isn't actually dead dead.


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