Rename: The Human Fund get usage counts

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1 shimaspawn30th Jan 2011 09:27:59 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
This trope was launched despite the protest of tropers on the YKTTW who found the name far too obscure for the trope. Fake Charity was the title proposed by the YKTTW.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
2 Catalogue30th Jan 2011 10:20:20 PM from where the good times are
A pocketful of saudade.
The description is rather confusing, what's that about...?
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
3 shimaspawn30th Jan 2011 10:29:30 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Someone makes a Fake Charity.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
4 Catalogue30th Jan 2011 10:34:48 PM from where the good times are
A pocketful of saudade.
I get it now. Unnecessary trope naming. And, by extension, the page description could have been something more generic. Fake Charity is fine.
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
5 shimaspawn30th Jan 2011 11:28:05 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Anyone else object to seriously trimming the description and renaming the trope?
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
6 Balmung30th Jan 2011 11:46:42 PM from A shiny new Linux install , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
Go for it.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
8 Deboss31st Jan 2011 05:22:20 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Support.
9 RedHood31st Jan 2011 06:47:30 AM from Marrero, Louisiana
Red Hood
One protester admitted to hating Seinfeld, and this other one hates creativity. I'll make it easier on everyone here. Goodbye, trope. If that was your plan Shimaspawn, then well played. Have a beer on me.
Eat glass, Lawman!
10 Catalogue31st Jan 2011 06:50:59 AM from where the good times are
A pocketful of saudade.
Sigh.
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
11 lrrose31st Jan 2011 07:04:45 AM , Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
FYI, Red Hood blanked the page in protest of the rename discussion. I have since reverted it. Incidentally, I agree with renaming the trope to Fake Charity.

edited 31st Jan '11 7:05:21 AM by lrrose

Live long and prosper
12 Catalogue31st Jan 2011 07:10:50 AM from where the good times are
A pocketful of saudade.
That reason for the blanking... floored me.
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
Azor Ahai
WTF
Hodor
14 Ghilz31st Jan 2011 07:42:02 AM from The Moon. Or Canada. , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
He has also blanked the YKTTW archive for that page. Any way to fix this?

Talk about petty
15 Shale31st Jan 2011 07:46:20 AM from Int'l House of Mojo , Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Mighty pirate!
It is not "creativity" to simply copy the name of whatever example comes to your mind first, no matter how unclear its relation to the trope, and use that for the title. It's just myopic.
Dragon Writer
Guidelines for Naming a Trope specifically say to avoid naming it after your favorite example. Doing so is usually a case of Fan Myopia, aka it's not as popular or commonplace as you think it is.
17 lrrose31st Jan 2011 09:11:04 AM , Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Fighteer said that Red Hood is now banned, so we should probably return to the discussion of whether to rename the trope.

edited 31st Jan '11 9:11:16 AM by lrrose

Live long and prosper
18 Deboss31st Jan 2011 09:15:47 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'm fine with Fake Charity.
19 shimaspawn31st Jan 2011 09:21:05 AM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
...Wow. I wasn't expecting that. Right. Well, now I understand why he launched it despite protests. In any case, everyone else seems on board with a rename and rewrite. I think it's a good trope at the core.

edited 31st Jan '11 9:22:15 AM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
20 Ghilz31st Jan 2011 09:33:22 AM from The Moon. Or Canada. , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
I put the current version of the page in the YKTTW archive for posterity's sake, The page aint that old to begin with
21 Madrugada31st Jan 2011 09:55:34 AM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
I support a rename to Fake Charity, and a cleaning up the definition to get rid of all the gratuitious potholes. Strip it down and make it clear. It could use a better page image, as well. What does Scrooge McDuck have to to with Fake Charities? Andwhat is the caption supposed to refer to?
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
22 shimaspawn31st Jan 2011 10:00:59 AM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up] The fact that the original creator wasn't taking feedback I think. I'll get rid of those as well.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
23 Catalogue31st Jan 2011 10:02:11 AM from where the good times are
A pocketful of saudade.
[up] Yeah, I appreciate the potholing (I think it's clever) and yes I DO understand them, but I feel it's just too intimidating for, eh, normal people. Dangerously close to the quote on top of TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Vocabulary!
The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
I'd like to suggest Charity Scam as a redirect once the rename goes through. I have no problems with a name like Fake Charity.
25 Madrugada31st Jan 2011 10:38:48 AM , Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Take a look at it now. I pruned the description way back, cleared out all the misused and unnecessary potholes (which was most of them), and alphabetized the examples. All that's left is to do the rename. and then find a good page image.

edited 31st Jan '11 10:39:24 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

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