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 19276 Silasw, Mon, 17th Mar '14 4:28:38 PM from UK :( Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Thing is they will have lost a lot of credibility when they tried to sell the oil to North Korea, so the US isn't going to be very happy with Cyrenaica for that little stunt.

edited 17th Mar '14 4:30:38 PM by Silasw

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 19277 FF Shinra, Mon, 17th Mar '14 4:33:43 PM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Eh. I think Benghazi would argue they were just scrapping the bottom of the barrel of buyers in deseperation. It ain't like North Korea gave them nukes or official recognition or something.

Hell North Korea was all like "We have nothing to do with this, we don't care about the ship, we're innocent" instead of their usual drivel.
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 19278 Achaemenid, Mon, 17th Mar '14 5:09:08 PM from the Centre Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
URA!
Threatening to recognize Cyrenaica could work. Another thing that the US doesn't try but maybe should is soft power: "Look guys...we did send all those Tomahawks, could you just do it this once? For us? Pretty please?"
 19279 demarquis, Mon, 17th Mar '14 5:20:32 PM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
Just seizing the ship this way sends an unusually clear and decisive message.
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 19280 FF Shinra, Mon, 17th Mar '14 5:50:36 PM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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[up]What message is that?

[up][up]Eh, we kinda ate up our goodwill by kidnapping that one guy in broad daylight. Though maybe Europe could.

[down]Ah yeah. Thought you meant something with regards to the Tripoli-Cyrenaica conflict.

edited 17th Mar '14 6:06:19 PM by FFShinra

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 19281 demarquis, Mon, 17th Mar '14 6:01:30 PM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
"Stealing the oil isnt going to get you any additional money..."
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 19282 Deviant Braeburn, Mon, 17th Mar '14 6:20:26 PM from Dysfunctional California
 19283 Ogodei, Mon, 17th Mar '14 8:07:36 PM from Skyworld
A little divine intervention
Actually Libya seems like it could be a job for the Bluehats, since it's not to the state of total civil war yet so they could easily broker a ceasefire, and while the UN keeps the peace there, they can do the hard work of forming a unity government.

It's actually a grand opportunity for UN-style peacekeeping, as the Libyan militias are really just an example of what happens when you have an armed revolution: short of massacring them, it's hard to get armed rebels to stop being armed even when your side wins.

 19284 FF Shinra, Mon, 17th Mar '14 8:46:08 PM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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[up]...that's kinda brilliant, actually.[awesome]
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 19285 De Marquis, Tue, 18th Mar '14 5:22:00 AM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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They have to be invited in, and for whatever reason, the Libyan gov't hasnt done that.
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 19286 Achaemenid, Tue, 18th Mar '14 5:50:30 AM from the Centre Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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An UN force could certainly work, but there would need to be at least some support from the rebels in Cyrenaica, otherwise it would simply put the conflict in stasis rather than provide a resolution. I'd hope that external peacekeeping action would be a last, rather than a first, resort.

It seems that a federal Libya is eminently possible, I think the trick is to find a way for both sides to give ground without losing face.
 19287 De Marquis, Tue, 18th Mar '14 6:00:36 AM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
And without sections of Libya turning back into authoritarian backwaters.
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 19288 Quag 15, Tue, 18th Mar '14 12:19:38 PM from Portugal Relationship Status: Chocolate!
 19289 demarquis, Tue, 18th Mar '14 2:52:10 PM from Hell, USA Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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Wow. Just... wow.
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 19290 Sabre's Edge, Tue, 18th Mar '14 3:14:12 PM from Project NAIL SPIKE
On the one hand, that's rather light for a case like that one.

On the other, this is the first time I've seen any news of someone cracking down on the Egyptian police. Perhaps the Sisi regime is hoping to make nice with the population and judged that the events of last August were long enough in the past to be safe ground?
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 19291 Rationalinsanity, Wed, 19th Mar '14 11:59:57 AM from Nova Scotia, Canada Relationship Status: Not war
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Better than nothing I guess. Its a step in the right direction but I doubt this kind of stuff will stop if the protests flare again.

 19292 Silasw, Sat, 22nd Mar '14 5:02:00 PM from UK :( Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Globalist Bunny
Morning Glory has been returned to the Libyan government by the US. [1]

Also Assad's forces have retaken a rebel held castle near the border with Lebanon. [2]

But there's some good news, almost half of Syrian's chemical weapons have been removed. [3]

O and there's also been some more fighting in the Golan Heights, with Israeli forces retaliating for some attacks by Government forces. [4]

edited 22nd Mar '14 5:07:35 PM by Silasw

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 19293 Marq FJA, Sat, 22nd Mar '14 5:39:53 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Al-Arabiya says that the FSA has taken over a major granary complex in the south that has enough grain to feed the nearby rebel town of Dara'a for five years, thereby alleviating a major food shortage that they've been under for the past couple of years. Also, the FSA has apparently dealt a painful blow to regime forces to the north of Aleppo in the countryside. Can anyone confirm this?

In other news, Aljazeera might have finally been placed in the Saudi government's blacklist (i.e. they're now jamming it), as I've had no luck getting any of its channels' broadcasts.

edited 22nd Mar '14 5:41:16 PM by MarqFJA

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1. If that's the case, then that's very welcome good news on the FSA.

2. Why would the Saudi's have a bone to pick with Al Jazeera right now?
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 19295 Ogodei, Sat, 22nd Mar '14 7:49:31 PM from Skyworld
A little divine intervention
Apparently Egypt is trying 545 Islamists simultaneously in a trial related to the mass camp shootings late last year. (only 123 are present for trial though)

 19296 Marq FJA, Sat, 22nd Mar '14 9:36:45 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
[up][up] The House of Saud is throwing itself fully behind El-Sissi, remember? Last week there was a falling apart in diplomatic relations between Qatar on the one hand and Saudi Arabia and the UAE on the other hand, with the official statement being that it's because Qatar renged on some recently ratified agreement to "not interfere in the internal affairs of Arab neighbours". I immediately suspected that the real reason is that Riyadh and Abu Dhabi been arguing with Doha under the table over its overt criticisms of El-Sissi's regime's practices and/or not putting a leash on the Qatar-based Aljazeera, which refuses to kiss up to Egypt's military dictatorship and not only insists on giving the anti-coup movement the benefit of doubt, but more or less is nigh unto siding with said movement outright due to suffering a similar kind of oppression and threats just because it shed light on the atrocities that the regime committed in its crackdowns on dissidents.

[up] Yeah, I think I saw a brief mention of that on Al-Arabiya. Says that the trial has been delayed to Monday for some unknown reason.

edited 22nd Mar '14 9:37:24 PM by MarqFJA

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 19297 Radical Taoist, Sat, 22nd Mar '14 11:36:32 PM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
I really really hope Al Jazeera doesn't face backlash for this, they're as good an international news source as we've got right now.
 19298 FF Shinra, Sun, 23rd Mar '14 12:49:05 AM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
[up][up]I heard it was because Qatar funds the Brotherhood and similar outfits. Not true?

On Aleppo, haven't heard anything about that yet. All news coming out there is that the city is about to be surrounded by Assad.
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 19299 Marq FJA, Sun, 23rd Mar '14 7:39:21 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Turkey downs Syria warplane on border: NGO.

And for the "other side of the story": Syria says Turkey shoots down Syrian warplane.

I heard it was because Qatar funds the Brotherhood and similar outfits. Not true?
Might be based on partial truth, in that what I've seen is that they've more or less criticized the El-Sissi regime for the violent crackdown and mass arrests without due process against the Brotherhood following the June 30 coup.
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 19300 FF Shinra, Sun, 23rd Mar '14 10:41:54 AM from Ivalice, apparently Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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I was talking about Qatar in relation to Syria actually.
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