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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#1: Jan 22nd 2011 at 10:33:56 PM

Is's Opposite Trope Title Drop doesn't indicate that it's song specific yet this one seems to give the impression that this is a music only trope. I see no reason to restrict this trope to songs especially becuase there are no other tropes covering this territory.

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#2: Jan 22nd 2011 at 10:48:45 PM

The problem is that only in music is Title Drop so prevalent in such a short space that it's reverse is tropeable. Otherwise it's just Title Drop averted. For music Title Drop is so common it makes more sense to be aversions only.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Jan 22nd 2011 at 10:50:11 PM

It's conventional for the song title to appear in the lyrics. If it doesn't, that's an exception to the rule.

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#4: Jan 22nd 2011 at 10:50:50 PM

Could you add that explanation to the main page then? But wait.... Shouldn't it be more notable that a feature length film never mentions it's own title?

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#5: Jan 22nd 2011 at 10:52:13 PM

No, because most of them don't, at least not exact wording.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#6: Jan 22nd 2011 at 10:54:25 PM

A movie like Oddly Named Sequel 2: Electric Boogaloo? Seems like a Title Drop would be very unusual. Or if the title of the movie is the name of the main character, is it a Title Drop whenever they say his name?

edited 22nd Jan '11 10:55:15 PM by troacctid

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BlackWolfe Viewer Gender Confusion? from Lost in Austin Since: Jun, 2010
#7: Jan 23rd 2011 at 5:27:30 AM

TitleMovie Title Drop?Song Title Drop?
The Final CountdownNoOver Nine Thousand
Spy HardNone, unless you count......every chorus
The Goonies/"(Goonies 'R') Good Enuff"A few times"Good Enuff", but never "Goonies 'R' Good Enuff"

Edit: I thought I could come up with a longer list. I thought I had something with James Bond, but a lot of Bond movies don't have movie named theme songs.

edited 23rd Jan '11 5:28:32 AM by BlackWolfe

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muninn 'M not Crazy, just Raven from Somewhere, out there... Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Jan 23rd 2011 at 8:45:02 AM

If the page were opened to all mediums, it wouldn't just end up being a list of works that don't use Title Drop, because that page excludes certain occasions where the title would is mentioned (for example, when the title is a character's name which gets said all the time).

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BigT grimAuxiliatrix Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Feb 2nd 2011 at 5:58:36 AM

So this is just a rollout of the music section of Title Drop, where aversions would usually be mentioned? If so, we can be explicit about that.

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halfmillennium Since: Dec, 1969
#10: Feb 2nd 2011 at 6:25:34 AM

If the title is used, it's used a certain way. If it's not used, it's not used, simple as that. We can't write guidelines on how something isn't used.

edited 2nd Feb '11 6:35:12 AM by halfmillennium

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#11: Feb 2nd 2011 at 6:30:36 AM

Here I was thinking this was an episode of a show that didn't have a title card show up in the ep.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#12: Feb 2nd 2011 at 9:16:57 AM

^Likewise. I also thought this would've covered something like the name "The Rolling Stones" not appearing on the cover of the band's debut self-titled album, but apparently this is strictly limited to song titles.

edited 2nd Feb '11 9:19:33 AM by SeanMurrayI

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Feb 2nd 2011 at 3:49:46 PM

We do have the trope Title, Please!, for where episode titles don't appear. It's sort of shaky as a trope (though the subjective banner is bogus).

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#14: Feb 2nd 2011 at 5:37:47 PM

^Funny enough, both the trope this topic is about and Title, Please! have been strictly limited to a single medium. I'd imagine Title, Please! would be the one most deserving of broadening its genre focus, but Non-Appearing Title still sounds a lot more like what Title, Please! is about; I mean, that's the trope where no titles at all ever appear.

BlueIceTea Since: Oct, 2010
#15: Jun 8th 2011 at 3:17:53 PM

I just started a YKTTW thread called Dropped Title, for works whose titles bear no obvious relationship to their content. In the description, I've listed Non-Appearing Title as a sub-trope relating specifically to songs.

edited 8th Jun '11 3:18:10 PM by BlueIceTea

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HeroicJay Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Aug 31st 2011 at 12:35:41 PM

Technically, how does anything "appear" in a song? Or dialogue? "Unsung Title" would be better for music, wouldn't it?

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#17: Sep 2nd 2011 at 5:52:54 AM

...Okay, Title, Please! desperately needs a rename. I wasn't aware that displaying episode titles on screen was ever the norm as that page claims; I seem to recall reading that the people behind The Simpsons didn't initially think fans would ever figure out what their episode titles were. That was in the 80s.

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#18: Sep 2nd 2011 at 10:36:10 AM

The original Star Trek did, but other than that, I don't recall it being the norm either.

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#19: Sep 2nd 2011 at 10:53:23 AM

Showing episode titles probably wasn't the norm, but it couldn't have been that uncommon either, considering that Police Squad parodied them.

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