Mate Griffon To Mare
"All pain is a punishment, and every punishment is inflicted for love as much as for justice." — Joseph De Maistre.
I'm inclined to call BS on Rand.
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Personally, I have regarded Ayn Rand as Not A Very Intelligent, Well-Meaning, Or Likable Individual, and have long ago taken the policy of disregarding everything she's ever said or wrote on the basis that it is either very stupid, very silly, or much better stated by someone else.
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Objectivism is nice and all, Ms. Rand, but I'm going to laugh at you for this.
Objectivism is nice and all, Ms. Rand, but I'm going to laugh at you for this.
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The highest ranking person in my career field is a female Major(two star) General, and we're one of the most masculine career fields in the military, especially where sexism is concerned, it takes tough women to tolerate us.
edited 21st Jan '11 3:28:34 PM by Barkey
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
Yes but Ayn Rand is... well a tiny bit mental to put it bluntly. She's like your guys version of Prince Phillip, only without the occasional moments of humour.
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Heck, even Francis hates Ayn Rand.
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This is the gal who of Atlas Shrugged fame correct?
"Who watches the watchmen?"
Mhmm.
She's old and dead. Even if you have relatively positive views on her, you have to disgree with some major stuff just to be a sane member of the young modern work force.
The people who made up the assembly that wrote the US Constitution, who have far more clout that Ayn Rand, didn't have the most enlightened views on sex relations either.
13 Karalora21st Jan 2011 05:26:33 PM from San Fernando Valley, CA
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Ayn Rand was one of those women who thought that if she disparaged her own sex enough, she would get to be an honorary dude with all the rights and privileges due thereto. Very much like Phyllis Schlafly, actually. Or Ann Coulter.
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Agreed. Her only contribution to the modern world is Objectivism. The rest of her views are outdated, and it's pointless to consider them seriously.
edited 21st Jan '11 5:30:33 PM by Ultrayellow
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
@Kara: She's like a church lady. Of her own cult.
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Oh, so she's basically a Schlafly clone? Groovy.
Over 10,000 dead.:<
It's not untrue that women can be misogynist and male supremacist. The tendency against the thought defies all the movements are supposed to stand for. That it's cultural that people become a certain way. I hate it when people try to bring essentialism into these factors. People working against their own interests is common in a society that promotes it.
And it's therefor not untrue the statement that "many women are as much the enemy of feminism as men". "Feminism" isn't about women's right to choice, and being unable to question them when they do things that hurt women. It's about equality.
Personally, I think women can make just as great of leaders as men. And that women should want to lead men.
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That post was perfectly true BUT I want to take this opportunity to say that overuse of lilotes annoys me.
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Ayn Rand was one of those women who thought that if she disparaged her own sex enough, she would get to be an honorary dude with all the rights and privileges due thereto.If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
Watchmen of the Apocalypse
Then we would all be criminals.
"Who watches the watchmen?"
Sure! But would at least try to avoid it that way.
If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
Watchmen of the Apocalypse
And we would invariably fail and become a criminal.
Back to the topic on hand. Ayn rand and other ilk like her can't be the only notable people to speak like this who else comes to mind?
"Who watches the watchmen?"
Mate Griffon To Mare
Phyllis Schlafly was mentioned. I'd give another mention to Marabel Morgan.
"All pain is a punishment, and every punishment is inflicted for love as much as for justice." — Joseph De Maistre.
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