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 226 Deviant Braeburn, Sun, 16th Sep '12 6:13:43 AM from Dysfunctional California
Wandering Jew
I'm nationalistic in the sense that I subscribe to the "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right" ideology. I believe that if you think there is a problem with your nation than its your duty to address the problem in whatever way you can, not ignore it, not give up, and certainly not run away.

The reason I'm nationalistic is because I believe in this nation's ideals and because I believe that this country can be used to make those ideals a reality. I believe in Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.I feel pride in my countries success and shame in its failures.

The problem with Nationalism is that its commonly intertwined with Race, Religion, and Ethnicity. This how you get things like the Nazi organization, Yugoslavia's breakup, and the KKK.

Is Nationalism decreasing in America? Maybe. Its odd most Americans still believe in there nation, but they absolutely loath the government. The Government's approval ratings took a massive dive in the LBJ/Nixon years and since then have never really recovered.

However I am noticing a disconcerting rise of something I call Anti-Nationalism (i.e. a growing sense of hatred and/or apathy directed at your country). There seems to be a lack unity in this nation and an increasing amount of cynicism, contempt, and isolationism.

And with this written, I can now finally go to bed.

edited 16th Sep '12 6:24:06 AM by DeviantBraeburn

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 227 Game Chainsaw, Sun, 16th Sep '12 11:39:19 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
 228 Inverurie Jones, Mon, 17th Sep '12 2:55:07 PM from Station 78 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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Not really, no.

Hence all the uprisings and shit.
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 229 Barkey, Mon, 17th Sep '12 4:53:16 PM from Bunker 051
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Personally I understand a certain degree of nationalism, or rather a pride in your nation that can lead to defensiveness with certain grey area criticisms, and a "booya" attitude when your country does something kind of awesome.

However, I'm not particularly patriotic, and I've never really understood the whole pride taken too far hubris that many of my countrymen demonstrate. I just don't get how people can see the US do something dickish, and not at least see why there is criticism, even if they agree with the action. Please don't discuss or debate this example further as it will lead to a derail, but I'll use the drone strikes as an example. I support them, but I understand why they are controversial, the people who immediately label anyone who criticizes or opposes them as some sort of terrorist sympathizing baby killer just baffles me.

I'd say that at least in my country, nationalism is in part decreasing because of the general wave of American Apathy that is making our people not give a shit about anything past what the Kardashians are doing. People care less and less about politics, philosophy, and pretty much anything outside of their little media bubble. I'd say that has a lot to do with the decrease in nationalism and national pride in the USA, it's the fact that our people are caring less and less about everything that is bigger than them overall.
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 230 Surenity, Tue, 18th Sep '12 11:59:30 PM from California
A casual stroll through Youtube comments or through Facebook groups dedicated to a particular country will show that there's still plenty of Misplaced Nationalism to be found.
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 231 Dark Soldier, Wed, 19th Sep '12 10:45:03 PM from Delta, BC, Canada Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Patriotism over nationalism. To oversimplify, I believe patriotism is "My country's great, and if it isn't, then we ought to make it great" while nationalism is "my country's the greatest, and if it isn't, then They are trying to sabotage it." The latter is dangerous.
 232 Inhopelessguy, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 6:02:59 AM from Birmingham, Greater Europe Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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Also, we should generally make a distinction between civic nationalism, and political nationalism. Civic nationalism is the "I WANNA BE A NATION-STATE". So, e.g. Scottish Nationalism, or European Nationalism or Catalonian Nationalism.

Political nationalism, is the "MY COUNTRY IS SO EPIC, EVERYONE ELSE IS JUST TRYING TO UNDERMINE IT", which is the dangerous one.

There are so many things that I could say.

But they might come out all wrong.

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 233 storyyeller, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 6:23:31 AM from Appleloosa Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
If you look at east Asia, it's very hard to say that nationalism is decreasing with a straight face.
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 234 Game Chainsaw, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 9:09:49 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
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We need to look at east Asia?

The only place I can see where nationalism is decreasing at the moment is... actually scratch that I can't think of a place.

edited 23rd Sep '12 9:10:42 AM by GameChainsaw

 235 Greenmantle, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 1:59:53 PM from New-Old Wessex Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Is Nationalism increasing within the regions of the USA?
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 236 Deviant Braeburn, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 3:11:04 PM from Dysfunctional California
Wandering Jew
[up]

Maybe in The South, but I don't think so.
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 237 Joesolo, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 3:54:24 PM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Yea, the south's about the only ones who get uppity about being better than the rest on a regular basis.

The rest of us just hate on another states sports teams or something.
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 238 Deboss, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 3:56:34 PM from Awesomeville Texas
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Damn dirty northers. *shakes fist menacingly*
 239 Karkadinn, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 4:12:02 PM from New Orleans, Louisiana
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Yankees, sweetie. You mean 'Damn dirty Yankees.' Alternately 'yanks' if you feel like being informal in your regional hatred.
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 240 Joesolo, Sun, 23rd Sep '12 4:14:08 PM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[up] You just say "yankees" and you'll have most of boston backing you up unless you tell them you mean the north in general XD
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I wouldn't generalize that nationalism is decreasing. Consider the Philippines, for example. Meingott, I'm ashamed to say that my countrymen are as blindly nationalistic as ever. Just wait and upload something disparaging them on YT, DA, or FB, or air it on the media, and watch as they get whipped into a firestorm of rage. This is also due to the ongoing dispute over a stupid rock in the middle of the sea, over which the country is arguing with China.
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 242 Joesolo, Tue, 25th Sep '12 10:56:29 AM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[up] Admitadly, who owns those islands could determine who owns oil and natrual gas supplies near them...
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