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 2026 Eagal, Fri, 19th Apr '13 10:04:43 AM from This is a location. Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
Your paltry human physics do not concern me. ;)

Thermobaric. That's good. Danke.

edited 19th Apr '13 10:04:54 AM by Eagal

The madness is catching.
 2027 Blueeyedrat, Fri, 19th Apr '13 10:12:01 PM from nowhere in particular. Relationship Status: Mu
YEEEEAH— no.
Trying to figure out names for my (grey) villain and his (slightly darker grey) Dragon-in-Chief. A quick character rundown:

- The villain is a relatively old man who, in his youth, helped build the city of Arc. However, he now sees Arc as a mistake and seeks to shut it down.
- The secondary villain is a young woman (~19) and a powerful Caster, specializing in hydrokinesis. She grew up in poverty in the bottom layers of Arc. The main villain took her in after her parents died, viewing her as a victim of an unjust society (and from perceived guilt for helping to create said society) and hoping to keep her destructive tendencies in check.

I've narrowed the girl's name down to Shani*, Sini*, or Minali*. Not sure about the man's name.

(Important note: I'm trying to stick to a naming convention of consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel-etc.*, because of a conlang I haven't developed yet.)
"I've come to the conclusion that this is a very stupid idea."
 2028 Slendid Suit, Sat, 20th Apr '13 5:11:24 AM from North of the South and South of the North
Has Spiffy Shoes
This may be generic as all hell and possibly slightly clichéd but have you considered Noah? Or perhaps converting Noah into your conlang?
"Hey, you could tweet people's sigs!" "...but why would you want to?"
 2029 Blueeyedrat, Sat, 20th Apr '13 6:31:22 AM from nowhere in particular. Relationship Status: Mu
YEEEEAH— no.
Hmm. Could work. And "Noah" does actually fit into the conlang, which has a null consonant to accomodate this sort of thing (noʊ-'ə). As an aside note, my protagonist's name (Aya) has two such nulls ('aɪ-'ə).
"I've come to the conclusion that this is a very stupid idea."
So I need initials for a standardized test that come to something really funny. Like, SK Is. CA Ts.

The best I could come up with was Standardized Tests of Intelligence. I think it's funny, but I'm trying to make the thing I'm using this for more "kid" friendly. So no getting crap past the radar.

Seeking for Light
Well, if you don't mind CATs, you could use Common Assessment (or Aptitude, or Achievement) Tests. Downside of that is there is (was?) an actual real-life CATs: California Achievement Tests. Don't know if that would be an issue.

You could also do Standard Intelligence Tests (SITs). Or General Aptitude and Progress Examinations (GAPEs). Or drop the "General" and just have APEs. Or use "Common" instead (CAPEs).

edited 22nd Apr '13 2:39:33 PM by Nocturna

[up] I like AP Es! And it works in context too. Because before it was like, "Who can save these poor children from the dreaded STI's?" Funny, but not necessarily appropriate.

 2033 Marq FJA, Mon, 22nd Apr '13 4:12:44 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
In the course of creating my own variation of vampires — specifically, while working on their powers and abilities — I hit upon giving them a number of preset forms to switch between. Now I'm stuck with thinking up names for each form; I'm aiming for a mix of poeticness, ominousness, and when appropiate religious dread. Placeholder names are in italics.

  • First form (Requiem): The default form a new vampire starts with, and the one they revert to after a sufficiently long period of blood-starvation. Noticeable Undeathly Pallor, blood-red irises, typically rather emaciated or at least skinny, and other vampire telltale signs that only those Too Dumb to Live would miss.
  • Second form (Memoriam): Attained after reaching a certain level of "power", usually within a decade or two of the vampire's first "awakening" if they follow a more or less regular feeding diet. More or less identical to their original human form — and perhaps even in better physical condition, if the vampire made proper use of their superhuman powers — except for quite subtle differences that would go unnoticed except by a sufficiently suspicious paranoiacs or a sufficiently observant vampire expert (be s/he a true Vampire Hunter or simply a vampirologist researcher), including blood-red irises, sharper than normal teeth, especially prominent and decidely pointy (upper) canines, and a slightly paler complexion than they previously had in their mortal life.
  • Third form: The inhuman aspect of the vampire's new nature and existence manifests visibly in this form, giving a great power boost, though this inner "Beast" is still constrained by "the Man"'s iron will and forced to remain within the confines of a generally humanlike bodily structure. Colloquially referred to by the setting's vampire hunters and vampirologists as the "war form" or the "true form", names that are looked down upon by vampire society in general as crude, oversimplifying, and misleading. Basically, take the second form, add in a couple of extra levels in personality-dependent muscularity (applies to both sexes), elongated claws for nails, demonic bat-wings (may have more than one set, depending on the vampire's power level), all teeth become razor-sharp fang-like versions of themselves (e.g. blunt cusps become very sharp and prominently pointy), change the eyes so that the sclera become red and the irises become golden, and turn the hair silvery white (if it wasn't already), and you'd have a reasonably accurate expectation of the typical appearance of this form (though by no means uniform across the "species").
  • Fourth form (Catabatic): The vampire's Beast, the embodiment of their inhumanity, is allowed to run practically unchecked, reflected in the vampire physically transforming into a true Monstrous Humanoid that more often resembles a vaguely anthropomorphic Animalistic Abomination than anything truly humanoid. In this form, the vampire loses all capacity for sapience and higher thought, though usually retains a dangerous level of predatory cunning that is occasionally occasionally deceptive in its ability to formulate more complex courses of action. One thing for sure, though, is that there is no reasoning with the vampire in this state, for reasoning is only for creatures of reason, and this is a creature of pure animal instinct and predatory voracity. The actual power of this form tends to vary from one vampire to another, but is typically always at high superhuman levels.
  • Perdition form: The ultimate vampire form, and rarely achieved "naturally" by any but the most ancient or "talented" of vampires. An Unholy Matrimony between the Beast's raw, savage power and unnatural instincts and the Man's sapience and rational intellect, the synergy resulting in unpercedented boost in both raw power and effective combat ability beyond any other form's own.

I'm thinking of applying "Requiem form" to either the first form or the second form, but I don't know which should I choose.

EDIT: Added "Requiem", "Memoriam", and "Catabatic".

edited 23rd Apr '13 10:36:17 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 2034 Noaqiyeum, Mon, 22nd Apr '13 4:17:10 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
'Memoriam form' comes to mind.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 2035 Marq FJA, Mon, 22nd Apr '13 5:06:30 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
For the second form, I persume? Seems fitting, especially since it's close to "memorial", as in the service of remembrance/commemoration (usually of dead people).

Did I mention that the last two forms are marked with Black Eyes of Evil and Black Eyes of Crazy, respectively?

edited 22nd Apr '13 5:08:04 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Seeking for Light
Maybe "Requiem form" for the first stage (as it's the mass for the dead, so most appropriate for the earliest form), and "Memorium form" for the second stage (as it harkens back to their human form). Maybe the "Calyx form" or "Calyxate form" for the third (Latin for "bud, burgeon", referring to their growing powers, as well as the name of the part of a flower which protects the bud—beastliness sheathed in humanity). The fourth form... I'm inclined to say "hellbeast", but that might make a better colloquial term, rather than the vampire's name for it. Maybe "Belua form" (or Beluam or however it's conjugated for an adjective)—it means "beast, fiend, fiendish person" but it sounds a lot more elegant.

 2037 Marq FJA, Mon, 22nd Apr '13 5:58:45 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
For the record, only the first form can truly be considered a "stage", as after hitting the second form for the first time, the vampire is free to switch between the second through fourth forms at will, provided they have enough of their precious sanguis to maintain the "higher" forms (a combination of Life Energy and Mana for vampires, that is basically blood in metaphysical form; compare Vitae in World of Darkness's vampire lines). And as noted, if a vampire is driven the point of malnourshiment, they would end up temporarily locked into the first form until they properly feed themselves back to a healthier state.

Maybe "Requiem form" for the first stage (as it's the mass for the dead, so most appropriate for the earliest form), and "Memorium form" for the second stage (as it harkens back to their human form).
Good reasoning.

Maybe the "Calyx form" or "Calyxate form" for the third (Latin for "bud, burgeon", referring to their growing powers, as well as the name of the part of a flower which protects the bud—beastliness sheathed in humanity).
Makes sense, though it sounds under-impressive for a vampire IMO.

The fourth form... I'm inclined to say "hellbeast", but that might make a better colloquial term, rather than the vampire's name for it. Maybe "Belua form" (or Beluam or however it's conjugated for an adjective)—it means "beast, fiend, fiendish person" but it sounds a lot more elegant.
I was going to use "Abomination form", but then thought it was too long. Maybe I should go the Rule of Cool neologism route and name it "Abhorrid form". (Combines "abhor" with "horrid", with the note that the former's "-hor" part derives from the same Latin root as "horrid".)

edited 22nd Apr '13 6:02:21 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 2038 Noaqiyeum, Mon, 22nd Apr '13 6:17:54 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Both of those seem kind of silly to me, and break the pattern a bit.

I like the idea of progression from Requiem to Memoriam - like the stages are named after funeral rites in combination with the progression of the soul. Since Perdition form is (quite reasonably) the last of the lot, you could precede it with, say, the Acherontic form perhaps?
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 2039 Marq FJA, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 1:53:35 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Both of those seem kind of silly to me, and break the pattern a bit.
Well, if the Tzimisce in VTMs can have "Horrid Form" and "Bloodform"/"Plasmic Form" as transformations...

I like the idea of progression from Requiem to Memoriam - like the stages are named after funeral rites in combination with the progression of the soul. Since Perdition form is (quite reasonably) the last of the lot, you could precede it with, say, the Acherontic form perhaps?
... Would you believe me if I said that I only picked "Perdition" due to sounding exotic and esoteric while having appropiate meanings of "damnation", "ruin" and the like, rather than connection with funerary rites or soul progression? Those didn't hit me until you pointed them out.

That said, "Acherontic" sounds more like a good name for a particular faction of vampires that are obsessed with studying the life-death cycle and researching resurrection... Or another faction that believes a vampire should act as some sort of gruesome psychopomp (hey, don't ask me how that works; they're crazy like that!).

edited 23rd Apr '13 1:54:31 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 2040 Noaqiyeum, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 7:25:11 AM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Of course I'd believe you. It seemed to be developing quite naturally out of the tone you were looking for. :P

Lethe form might also work, as the river of amnesia and oblivion rather than the river of pain. (Acheron is also often used as the name of the 'hellmouth' that devours the damned, though, which seems appropriate for a beastly nightmare.)

Other ideas: Malebolge form, Catabasis form, Dis form, Pandemonium form

edited 23rd Apr '13 7:47:54 AM by Noaqiyeum

We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
Seeking for Light
There's also Styx (river crossed to get to the underworld, and the goddess of oaths), Phlegethon (river of fire), and Cocytus (river of wailing/lamentation), though the last two might sound too weird to modern readers. They also break the Latinate pattern you had going with the three established names.

 2042 Eagal, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 9:29:50 AM from This is a location. Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
Technically Styx wasn't a goddess of oaths, Zeus just promised to make oaths in her name binding as reward for her help in the Titanomachy. Bit of a nitpick.
The madness is catching.
 2043 Marq FJA, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 10:36:38 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Of course I'd believe you. It seemed to be developing quite naturally out of the tone you were looking for. :P
Gee, that's reassuring.

Other ideas: Malebolge form, Catabasis form, Dis form, Pandemonium form
... I will be appropiating "Malebolge" and "Dis" as names for some particular sinister places in this setting. And congratulations, "Catabatic form" has proved itself to be the grand winner of the competition for the fourth form slot! Now we just have the Third form to name.

They also break the Latinate pattern you had going with the three established names.
I'm not seeking a particular linguistic pattern, to be honest.

edited 23rd Apr '13 10:36:54 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Seeking for Light
Nepthian, after Nepthys, Egyptian goddess of the night, who represented death, was responsible for protecting mummies, and was the wife of the war god?

[down] Okay, sorry.

edited 23rd Apr '13 5:28:17 PM by Nocturna

 2045 Marq FJA, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 5:27:16 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Let's try to steer away from blatantly "mythological figure names" for now, shall we? I'd rather save those for more culture-/faction-specific stuff within the vampire society.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Seeking for Light
Sinistrous (archaic adjectival form of sinister)?

 2047 Noaqiyeum, Tue, 23rd Apr '13 8:51:44 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Ideas for the third form: Mattins, Nocturne, Vigil, Wake, Miserere, Archimime, Macabre, Surmatants, Moriendi, Renascor , Grotesque, Vanitas.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 2048 Marq FJA, Wed, 24th Apr '13 4:27:33 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
"Renascor"...? <digs through the dictionary, is ultimately led to French renaitre>

Hmmm... "Renaissant form" sound good to you guys?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Seeking for Light
Sounds fine to me.

 2050 Noaqiyeum, Wed, 24th Apr '13 9:13:27 AM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Oh yes.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
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