OK, well I don't know if this is the best place to ask, but some questions about editing have been bugging me for a while:

-If there's an example for a subtrope, should it should be kept out of the page for the supertrope? I'm assuming yes. -What about if an example fits under overlapping sister tropes? -Should a trope be noted on a work's main page if it also fits into a character page? -Should an example be put on a trope page, and the trope be put on the example's page? (I'm assuming yes, so that means that each page will link to each other)

I think that's all for now. Thanks.

I can answer some of these definitively. The others would be educated guesses, so I'll leave those for Deboss or someone.

• Tropes and examples generally should link back to each other. It aids Wiki Walking.
• A trope on a character should only be added to the work itself if it applies to characters other than the one(s) on the character page.

No, that defeats the entire purpose of subtrope pages. Sorry, misread "out" as "on", you are correct, please put the example on the most specific trope page.

Yes, put it on all bottom level tropes it applies to.

If a page has been split into character pages, character specific tropes go on the character page (this is to keep the main page from running over the limit). However, tropes that apply to a vast number of the characters can go on the main page IE: Bleach has Cool Sword on the main page because 90% of the characters have one. My personal preference is to put plot based tropes such as Heel Face Turn on the main page rather than the character page, unless it happens early on or is not something that has a massive effect on the plot.

Yes, unless there's a notice on the page not to list examples or some such like with Subjective Tropes.

edited 13th Dec '10 5:58:08 PM by Deboss

Tolja Deboss would have answers.

That's freaky.

I'm just that used to you beating me to the punch.

Could you elaborate on this a bit? Does this mean every entry in a subtrope page should have an accompanying example on its supertrope?

Presumably Deboss missed the "out" in that sentence ?

Yeah, must have misread 'on' for 'out.'

Ah, OK, that makes more sense. I was worried that I was really misunderstanding something....

Nothing wrong with putting character tropes on the sub pages and the main pages though, unless the main page is particularly big. You can tell the really huge ones a mile off. For most, it's not a problem (yet to hear admin fiat either way on it, but such has always been my interpretation).

It isn't rules-based. An example may work well at both levels. Most often, it works best at the most-specific level. Judgment call. I guess if you needed a rule, you could say that if it must refer to the subtrope to be described, it "belongs" to the subtrope.

I use this rule-of-thumb [analogy] — Supertropes are classifications like "dog"; Subtropes are more specific classifications, like "German Shepherd" or a "dachshund". If I know it's a "German Shepherd", I call it that, rather than just a "dog".

And just hypothetically supposing we DID have a Dog trope, it would probably be example-less, right? Assuming we had Mutt in addition to German Shepherd, Pit Bull, Scottish Terrier, etc., every example would have a subtrope to fit into.

Unless it's never specified what breed a character is.

Whoops, you're right, I may or may not have been buzzed when I read that. Examples go on the most specific subtrope.

Examples go on the most specific subtrope. If there is one - usually there is, but sometimes you'll find examples that do not fit a subtrope. Perhaps they're not common enough to be a specific trope in their own right, but still meet the same criteria as the others at the larger level for the super. "Dogs of indeterminate or no breed" in the above case (leaving aside the fact that there probably are enough of them to warrant such a theoretical suh trope), any examples of which could just go on the main page.

Happens at a sort of meta-level with pages and subpages. Media like film, videogames, live action TV might get a subpage for a trope, but smaller media like theatre, table top games and music might have their examples just listed on the main page.