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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#11026: May 20th 2018 at 8:00:38 AM

So, judging by the trailer and some of the artwork, Man the Guns will have the option for the US to go through a second civil war.

Seeing as it's probably just going to be ACW 2: Confederate Boogaloo, I'm not sure how to feel about it.

Bored, maybe? I mean, one of the things I like about how Kaiserreich did it was that they weren't just retreading the tired cliché of "what if the Confederates somehow had a second shot at this", instead opting for having it fought between a) more than two factions and b) make it not just a sequel to the first one.

Even the AUS, which is located in the south, is not actually a Neo-Confederacy by any stretch of the imagination, despite having the KKK and other far right groups among its supporters during the civil war - emphasis on during. Because if the AUS wins, the daggers come out and they can be purged.

Apropos Kaiserreich, apparently they're doing their own OST now.

edited 20th May '18 8:16:30 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#11027: May 20th 2018 at 8:27:35 AM

[up][up]As long as Imp has options for permanent political mode I don't care. So... there is an option like that? Or, if not that, chance for a mod to fix it? Please?

Also, maybe I should stop poking Fate (which is kinda off-topic), but where are your sources for tiddy archer Temujin? My google-fu shows nothing.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#11028: May 20th 2018 at 8:44:52 AM

[up] Can you guys take it to the Fate thread?

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#11029: May 20th 2018 at 10:28:39 AM

[up][up][up]Yeah I love more alternate history but bringing back the Confederacy is just ridiculous. I much prefer the more plausible Kaiserreich civil war.

[up][up]If it's not an option in Vanilla I'm sure mods would provide it.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#11030: May 20th 2018 at 11:37:07 AM

Civ 4 had a globe map but it was never used... mainly because it was pointless and visually odd. I wonder if Paradox will do better.

I expressed myself bad. It is not an actual globe. You don't get to see the whole world (the game doesn't cover China, subsaharan African, much less America). But it is not a plane map projection either. So this allow the game to have more realistic sizes all round. Here a photo for how it will actually look.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#11031: May 20th 2018 at 11:38:28 AM

[up]Oh I see, that's awesome too.

"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn
Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#11032: May 20th 2018 at 11:48:33 AM

Eh, Sicily so far away from Tunis? Is this even Paradox game?

Ramidel (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#11033: May 21st 2018 at 5:14:00 AM

So, we got some word and some screenies on Holy Fury. Some highlights:

  • Crusade rework
  • Pagan warrior lodges as Societies, so pagans have options other than Satanism
  • Customized pagan reformations; you decide what form your reformed faith takes!
  • Random and shattered maps.
  • Bloodlines

So okay, this sounds like it's gonna be huge. Focus is on the Baltic but it'll affect most of the West (and the steppe).

I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#11034: May 21st 2018 at 5:23:49 AM

Random and shattered maps? What’s that mean?

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#11035: May 21st 2018 at 6:42:24 AM

Shattered probably means no big kingdoms at all. There's a Shattered World mod for both CKII and EUIV, and they both involve all counties being independent at the start. Random maps probably mean something like the Random New World button in EUIV, where the game procedurally generates the whole thing.

Ramidel (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#11036: May 21st 2018 at 6:46:04 AM

Apparently, random maps still use the regular map, just with countries and such randomized.

For example.

edited 21st May '18 6:47:38 AM by Ramidel

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#11037: May 21st 2018 at 8:27:17 AM

How do you stop steam from downloading a patch or roll back to a previous one? i want to finish my game before the Niven update.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#11038: May 21st 2018 at 10:20:08 AM

That Imperator game sounds neat. I'm hoping to play as the Celts and essentially being Boudicca's Revolt, only taking it all the way to Rome itself.

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#11039: May 21st 2018 at 11:37:12 AM

[up]It seem the end date will be around the creation of the empire, so Boudica is technically outside the scope of the game. Nothing stops of from playing as the Celtics, tough, of course. I wouldn't expect much iteration with Rome for a long time, however, unless you deliberately expand away from the islands.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11040: May 21st 2018 at 12:26:10 PM

Assuming this allows for the standard PDS map painting, interacting with anyone will be possible, if you know what you are doing.

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Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#11041: May 21st 2018 at 12:50:07 PM

[up]Of course. But then it is nothing at all like a revolt to remove Rome. Once you are out and about conquering you aren't the underdogs defending its territory but just a competing empire. You can do that, of course, but that is not "essentially being Boudica's revolt".

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#11042: May 21st 2018 at 1:03:00 PM

Talking about this reminds me that there's a Classic Antiquity mod for Eu 4 that I should probably play.

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#11043: May 21st 2018 at 1:17:30 PM

I'm fighting against a fallen empire right now and I have no idea what's going on. For whatever reason whenever we fight their ships just won't die. I can have tens of thousands higher strength score than their fleet yet somehow half my fleet will be destroyed before they lose a single Battleship (and they naturally will always warp out before a single battleship is destroyed). What am I doing wrong here?

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#11044: May 21st 2018 at 1:32:57 PM

Just to be sure - are you doing any damage to them at all? Because otherwise you might want to reload because there seems to be a bug where sometimes fleets don't properly engage with each other.

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#11045: May 21st 2018 at 2:10:21 PM

Yeah I do some damage, my 70-90k fleets tend to kill 2 destroyers before half of them are annihilated.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#11046: May 21st 2018 at 3:54:07 PM

You have to be very late game in order to stand any sort of chance against a Fallen Empire at any point. Even if you have fleets that are supposedly a lot stronger than they are. Like, top-tier weapons, armor, shields, the works.

edited 21st May '18 4:01:24 PM by theLibrarian

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#11047: May 21st 2018 at 4:29:07 PM

That Reformations feature sounds pretty awesome, though there'd have to be some incentive to not always go for becoming a Caliph-style religious head, seeing as it's strictly better than a Pope-style religious head (which is also one of the many reasons Germanic paganism is more powerful than other pagan faiths) . Like, if the High Priest could offer the full array of Papal interactions, such as granting claims and providing money, that would give some reason to delegate religious authority.

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#11048: May 22nd 2018 at 12:52:30 PM

[up][up]Thing is, I've already managed to beat another Fallen Empire, (or rather their fleets, most of their fortresses were left untouched), and I'm on repeatable techs in everythign except Engineering, wher i'm pretty close. I've also researched Fallen Empire Shields and Power Generators from debris.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#11049: May 22nd 2018 at 1:36:08 PM

What are your weapon loadouts, and their defenses, like? But this does seem to be a bug at work, I can't see such extreme results coming from sub-optimal ship design in this case.

edited 22nd May '18 1:36:52 PM by Rationalinsanity

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#11050: May 22nd 2018 at 6:53:04 PM

Stuff like this is why I love going down the psionic ascension path. [lol] note 

edited 22nd May '18 6:53:13 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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