Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.
It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine
They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.
I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.
another programmer's thing
Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning
Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM
You can just split by the current set of folders. They're broken because of length, but the headers are still there.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Musicians accounted for.
The alternative/indie performers make up the single-largest category, followed by Rock and its derivatives (of which Metal also has its own subpage), Pop, Electronica and Rap.
edited 11th Dec '12 2:40:57 AM by EarlOfSandvich
I now go by Graf von Tirol.
I'm working on Fallout 3's Headscratchers. EDIT: Done.
edited 13th Dec '12 8:14:34 AM by IlVit
Seconding what FELH 2 said about giving types to new subpages.
Also, when you want new pages to be indexed on the main page, please enclose them in index tags and change the page type to trope+does indexing or work+does indexing. Then do a null edit to activate it. Otherwise the subpages will be unindexed.
edited 13th Dec '12 9:01:25 AM by ArcadesSabboth
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
^Or change the page type and then add the index tags to save a step.
Earl, did you do the Mass Effect 3 WMG page?
edited 17th Dec '12 6:18:04 PM by IlVit
Nope, just did the work page (it did get to more than 400000 at the time).
Someone who knows the game can take care of the WMG page. Work pages are much easier to sort out, since you merely have to be alphabetical, but you'd have to categorize things like WMGs, so I'll leave someone else to it.
edited 18th Dec '12 6:33:55 AM by EarlOfSandvich
I now go by Graf von Tirol.
How do you know if a page has gotten too big and should be divided into smaller pages? Is there a way to count the words on a page?
edited 22nd Dec '12 6:59:14 AM by Mullon
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
The lettercount is on the bottom left corner. The smaller number is something else.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
We usually split when the big number crosses 400k. When it hits 500k Bad Things start happening.
In uffish thought
I'm sorting the Villain Whitewashing Service; I should split it today or tomorrow.
Edit, three hours later: Done. Agh, my hands...
edited 24th Dec '12 10:13:33 AM by Telcontar
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Starting Chekhov's Gunman.EDIT: Done.
edited 25th Dec '12 5:31:42 PM by IlVit
I have split Pathfinder.
Hi
Thread moved.
Disney Villains, Mass Effect 2 Party Members, Narm/Film and World War II have been done.
edited 5th Feb '13 10:40:26 AM by IlVit
I don't know if this is the place, but I was redirected here after a TRS suggestion to split Surprisingly Similar Stories. Originally, I was suggesting a soft split, but it's creeping towards the 400,000 mark. Should it be hard split anyway?
Hi
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
...do we even really need that page?
![[down]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_down.png "[down]"){kind=icon}
Cool, nevermind, then. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
edited 6th Feb '13 6:37:38 AM by Willbyr
It's flagged as Just for Fun.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
If it helps, my suggestion would be to divide the main page into folders where all of the works in an entry of of the same medium, and split off cross-media entries onto a separate page. I haven't checked the maths of it yet, though.
edited 7th Feb '13 8:06:03 AM by abloke
Folders don't affect whether the page is too large.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I know. I suggested splitting off the "category" I'd guess would be the biggest, were it to be sorted that way. I'm not sure whether the others would be large enough to warrant their own pages. I might be wrong about that being the biggest and the others being too small; someone would have to go through the page and count them.
(she/her)
It's been almost two months since the last page length report. Can we get new one to get things moving again please?
Macron's notes
Here we go: latest
I put out a call on the discussion page.