Series/Fringe

Alternating universes looks interesting on paper. To me it "unfocused" the story. Now there's double the characters (with the same actors) to track. That's why I got less interested. (I wonder what a casual view thinks?)

It *is* a bold move for the show though. And developing the alternate or "bad" characters, does add complexity. Maybe I find clear cut "good" and "bad" more entertaining on a TV show. That's funny, because in life that's *not* how I think.

^ From what I've read, yes, it has been responsible for losing some of the show's more "casual" viewers. I love it though.

I love the alternating universes. Twice the plot.

^ ...and twice the culture. I get a kick out of picking up on how different history and pop culture is in the alternate universe; Francis Ford Coppola directing Taxi Driver, Eric Stoltz starring in Back To The Future, I love that stuff!

If I interpret the preview for the next episode right... the cast gets high on LSD and enters Olivia's mind?

more like

Okay, WTF????? HOW THE HELL ARE THEY ALL DOING LSD ON NETWORK TELEVISION?

I guess not even the FCC and the Moral Guardians watch TV on Fridays.

Edit: Also, crazy awesome episode. Zeppelins, zombies, cartoon Leonard Nimoy, Broyles tripping. Yeah, it was a little too zany, but it was just too much fun to dislike.

edited 16th Apr '11 7:51:14 PM by Treblain

Cartoon Bell shows up.

Tangent breaks out laughing.

This is why I love Fringe.

When they started ripping off Inception wholesale they lost me, but then when cartoon Leonard Nimoy showed up I was back in. And then when the zombies showed up I couldn't believe how much fun I was having. I still think that bringing Bell back was dumb, but they did it well. Anna Torv's Nimoy is awesome. I kept praying that somehow Bell would end up in Hurley's body.

Most dramatic eating of toast, EVER!

I wonder what the real reason for the cartoon stuff was....they seem to have done it just so they didn't have to show Nimoy in person, so that seems like the likely reason.

Also, the blatant product placement in this show is starting to piss me off.

edited 19th Apr '11 3:33:47 PM by ViralLamb

The Zoom reference was nostalgic, at least.

I'm just wondering how dead Bell is this time.

The bit at the end suggests Olivia is exhibiting precognition? More cortexiphan hax are interesting...

Precognition, perhaps. But she delivers the line in such a flat, nonchalant tone that I can't help but think that there is something else going on as well.

Hmm, you sound like you enjoy it, but the last few episodes really put me off. Just don't seem to be very good.

This episode turned me off. Some of the individual scenes were fun, but I kept telling myself that we were going to get some serious emotional beats with Olivia and Peter, and instead we got a couple ok scenes. Also, the rules of Olivia's mind struck me as arbitrary, but ymmv.

I reckon they missed a beat with Olivia's mind. The stuff they revealed about her was kind of, well, shallow. We could have had an exciting Buffy's Restless-esque episode, and we got... movie rip-offs.

Plus spoiler alert:

"That's the man who's going to kill me." LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME

Shit is going down in these last episodes.

Who else found that Peter getting bitch slapped by the machine was unexpected yet awesome?

I don't see how anyone can find Walternate to be a bad guy. He has no other way to save his universe, so why do people find him to be a Well-Intentioned Extremist?

edited 25th Apr '11 2:44:02 PM by ViralLamb

You don't think his goal is a little extreme?

Also considering the other things he's plotted so far?

I'll need more details than that.

He's trying to save an entire universe full of people, the only options he has are the extreme ones. It's already been shown that he wishes there were another way, with the Amber as well. He does what is necessary, not what makes him feel fuzzy inside. He's far from evil in my opinion, and I find Walter to be closer to "evil" then Walternate considering he's the reason for...ya know, countless lives lost and stuff.

Agreed. Ever since they showed the effects of reality decay in our world, the realisation that the Alternate Universe has been going through this shit for twenty years has (mostly) un-villainised Walternate for me. To me it is a case of He Who Fights Monsters. The only dent in that is that he seems to be hiding/planning something more. I just hope he doesn't do something obviously villainous to justify him getting killed.

Also Did Peter travel to the future or a third universe there? The impression ı got was that it was our universe in the future.

We saw a Ground Zero 20th anniversary memorial; that means future in any case, and not red-side. Probably blue-side since the writers have previously said they only are dealing with the two universes.

Why the machine is doing this... no idea. Based on scattered lines from the trailer, maybe it's showing him a future where the red side is wiped out?

Well considering he has no idea how to operate it.

He could've just pressed a big "what-if" button

I'm agreeing by Tangent's line. I was confused mainly because the Wham Episode section in the main page referred to that as another universe. Was wondering if I missed something.

......Woah.

completely agree.