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 2451 moberemk, Wed, 10th Jul '13 4:53:56 AM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Dread Lord
Generally speaking, KMF ammo is stored in a clip in the weapon itself (as far as can be seen from the models). That they never seem to run out is more a narrative convenience than anything else, although I'd theorize that spare clips would be stored in compartments in the legs. This is of course ignoring the energy-weapon-using KM Fs, which seem to draw directly from the main power supply of the Frame.
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Also, given that KM Fs are sort of based on ATs, how were the Japanese able to loose to them before Suzaku killed his father Genbu, the Prime Minister, I mean, wouldn't a tank be able to give a Glasgow trouble. In fact, wouldn't 4-5 tanks be able to take down a Gloucester?

edited 10th Jul '13 5:45:08 AM by HallowHawk

 2453 Iaculus, Wed, 10th Jul '13 5:55:38 AM from England
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[up]The thing about Knightmares isn't that they're particularly tough or powerful. It's that they're incredibly fast and agile, whilst mounting almost as much armour and firepower as a conventional tank. A KMF won't go head-to-head with a tank, it'll zip around, making intelligent use of cover, and then empty a few dozen bullets into its enemy's engine before the tank has even managed to turn its turret to face it. Sure, a couple of hits from a regular tank's gun would probably trash a Knightmare, but good luck landing even one.
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 2454 moberemk, Wed, 10th Jul '13 5:13:24 PM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Dread Lord
[up]That. KM Fs are just generally better at handling many kinds of terrain; especially good pilots are also capable of making use of the third dimension (via jumping and Slash Harkens) which gives them an unbeatable advantage against pretty much any tank.
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[up]I was thinking it'd be better though that instead of using rollerblades; KMF's should just use multiple tread assemblies. Probably would get more traction on more material.

KM Fs, in my mind, are definitely designed with urban fighting in mind. On the field at range tanks probably would still have the upper hand, but KM Fs would be better in CQC.

I've been thinking that EU KMF's should actually be called Wanderpanzers, in honor of Front Mission.
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KM Fs, in my mind, are definitely designed with urban fighting in mind. On the field at range tanks probably would still have the upper hand, but KM Fs would be better in CQC.

The first episode definitely implied that, and that they were the reason the Brittanians were able to conquer a heavily urbanized Japan with ease. But then later we see a knightmare rollerblading on sand, which makes no sense. Halfway through the first season, the actual tactical role of the mechs was thrown out in favor of "mechs are awesome, so put them in everything."
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[up]Thus why I think being treaded instead of having rollerblades would be more beneficial. I think the way a KMF could beat a tank formation on the field is by approaching in a zigzag pattern, thus keeping the tanks from dialing in a shot unless they were really good at timing and predicting their movements.
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I decided to look up the "KMF on sand" thing myself, and it seems they at least put some sort of special gliding attachment (ski?) on the feet for that. Slightly funny but there is some sense after all!

Can't really complain about the mecha being used for everything since that's part of the nature of these shows.

edited 11th Jul '13 9:18:47 AM by Souther

Revy Gonna Give It To Ya
[up]I dunno, an aspect of a lot of Real Robot shows is that they show how Mecha would be used in, well, real combat.
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 2460 moberemk, Fri, 12th Jul '13 5:09:21 AM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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[up]Yes, but CG is usually not one of those shows. Proof: Giant robot being used to make record-breaking pizza.
 2461 Sykosis, Fri, 12th Jul '13 1:56:13 PM from the Dominion of El Chado
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The black clothing the Knight of the Rounds wear under their white coats, what exactly are they?

They've been lying to you, man. There ain't no such thing as a hero. You've become addicted to the illusion of what a hero is.
[up][up][up] If you were to apply such a standard consistently, you'd find that theory is not entirely true.

Gundam itself would be the first, but not the last, property to bend or break it from time to time.

[up] I don't know!

edited 12th Jul '13 6:40:32 PM by Souther

 2463 Sykosis, Sat, 13th Jul '13 4:55:19 AM from the Dominion of El Chado
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Oh. I was just wondering about those. Judging by that scene where Gino gets held captive by Schneizel's men (shortly after the FLEIJA incident), it seems as though it has zipper, and it looks too form-fitting to even be classified as a shirt, but doesn't seem like it could be spandex.
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[up][up]Well having consistent worldbuilding is a definite plus to me; Code Geass starts with portraying KM Fs as walking tanks but then it just goes batshit.

The best gundam series are the ones that portray M Ses as analagous to real world weapons, like MSG, 0080 and 08th MS. I'd even say Unicorn to an extent.
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[up] More like rollerskating tanks. The consistency issue is also overstated. It tends to be ignored that a lot of the more advanced stuff like flight technology, beam weapons and such existed since the beginning in one form or another. They simply put them into more regular use. The single biggest tech leap they had was right near the end of R2 and then everything got destroyed anyway.

As for Gundam...what you say only applies to the sanitized version of Mobile Suit Gundam in the films, since the TV series has lots of Super Robot gimmicks which would be out of place on any real battlefield. To say nothing of several Zeon Mobile Armors being...well, not that different from the Mechanical Beasts of Mazinger and the like. I find demands of Real Robot purity to be like praying to a giant statue with feet of clay.

edited 17th Jul '13 12:34:41 PM by Souther

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As for Gundam...what you say only applies to the sanitized version of Mobile Suit Gundam in the films, since the TV series has lots of Super Robot gimmicks which would be out of place on any real battlefield. To say nothing of several Zeon Mobile Armors being...well, not that different from the Mechanical Beasts of Mazinger and the like. I find demands of Real Robot purity to be like praying to a giant statue with feet of clay.

Then what about Operation Odessa in 0079, where the EF mostly counted on their Type 61 tanks and various aricraft to win?

In regards to Real Robot purity, what about Armored Trooper VOTOMS then?

edited 22nd Jul '13 8:14:17 AM by HallowHawk

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[up]Not shown except in the sidestories. The original TV series had several Super Robot elements later shows lacked, and lacked a few that later shows added, but the franchise as a whole is fairly 'soft' by Real Robot standards (the brightly-painted come-on-you-could-see-that-a-mile-off suits are a bit of a clue). VOTOMS is harder, but not the hardest work out there - mostly, it covers similar territory to Gundam with a more down-to-earth visual aesthetic and more expendable mechs.
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Revy Gonna Give It To Ya
[up][up][up]Uh, I think you're mistaken about what Loum actually was. First, it was a space battle, so there were no tanks or aircraft. Secondly, the EF lost at Loum, decisively, and it gave the Zeon space force dominance over much of the Earth sphere.
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 2470 yamiidenryuu, Sun, 21st Jul '13 9:16:39 PM from You know, that place Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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-pokes head in- I just want to say I find it hilarious how people actually call Lelouch "Lulu". Best nickname.

Soo... Are any of the manga for this franchise any good?
Sam just... punched his own face and died in a marsh. And Pippin got lost, and Frodo was dead.
Revy Gonna Give It To Ya
[up]Yeah, Nightmare of Nunnally. Waaaay too many fucking upskirt/panty shots though.

Also Akito Ep 2 is looking really boss. Hope its longer than Ep 1.
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Edited #2466. Thanks for reminding me.

 2473 Yamii Denryuu, Mon, 22nd Jul '13 9:35:59 AM from You know, that place Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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[up][up]panty shots nooooooo

Any of the others worth reading?
Sam just... punched his own face and died in a marsh. And Pippin got lost, and Frodo was dead.
Revy Gonna Give It To Ya
[up]Not really; the manga adaptation of the series is pretty dull and I found the one based on Suzaku being the hero kind of meh too. Haven't really read the others.
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[up] Sorry to be rude, but I just edited post #2466.

Also, the thing about that drug Refrain is this: Why make it illegal in the first place, I mean, wasn't it created to keep dissidents quiet?

edited 5th Aug '13 3:00:22 AM by HallowHawk

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