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* EvilIsSexy:
** While the "Evil" part is up for debate, no one can argue that the Dominion exert control over the galaxy in ''style.''
** Agent Voxine, [[{{Fembot}} female Mechari]] and [[CuteMonsterGirl female Draken]]. Being in the Dominion has its perks.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Drop 4's main purpose is to fix most of the bugs that plagued in both vanilla and Drop 3 of [=WildStar=]. In addition, it provided a new Shiphand mission for lower level, new dungeon, and in-game character customization option.
** Within the first week of drop 7 (the [=Free2Play=] release), the game suffered a massive increase of players which caused extremely large queues. The Devs quickly responded this with the addition of new servers for the players, which have since been remerged.
** Just as the community was beginning to get well and truly fed up with how deserted the [=PVP=] servers are, the update for 2-24-2016 announced a massive overhaul of the [=PVP=] system, including free realm transfers from [=PVP=] to [=PVE=] servers so nobody got trapped on the [=PVP=] servers before they were merged with [=PVE=], and new incentives to have World [=PVP=] enabled.
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: Dairy products can be brewed into [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis alcohol]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The major criticism on [[spoiler: Sadie Brightland's Death in Northern Wilds,]] which her [[InformedAbility Informed Ability]] stated that she was a Judge (Exiles' law enforcement) but [[spoiler: [[StuffedIntoTheFridge her death being used to characterize "Deadeye" Brightland.]]]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The major criticism on [[spoiler: Sadie Brightland's Death in Northern Wilds,]] which her [[InformedAbility Informed Ability]] stated that she was a Judge (Exiles' law enforcement) but [[spoiler: [[StuffedIntoTheFridge [[CynicismCatalyst her death being used to characterize "Deadeye" Brightland.]]]]

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* EvilIsCool: Whether you think their "Evil" or [[GrayAndGreyMorality not,]] The Dominion still have a sizeable fanbase who wholly embraced their stick. It helps that their playable races consist of The [[AristocratsAreEvil Aristocratic Cassians,]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy The Warlike Draken,]] [[MechanicalLifeforms The Cybernetic Mechari,]]
and [[CrazyIsCool The Insane Chua]]

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* EvilIsCool: Whether you think their "Evil" or [[GrayAndGreyMorality not,]] The Dominion still have a sizeable fanbase who wholly embraced their stick. It helps that their playable races consist of The [[AristocratsAreEvil Aristocratic Cassians,]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy The Warlike Draken,]] [[MechanicalLifeforms The Cybernetic Mechari,]]
Mechari,]] and [[CrazyIsCool The Insane Chua]]Chua.]]
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* EvilIsCool: Whether you think their "Evil" or [[GrayAndGreyMorality not,]] The Dominion still have a sizeable fanbase who wholly embraced their stick. It helps that their playable races consist of The [[AristocratsAreEvil Aristocratic Cassians,]] [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy The Warlike Draken,]] [[MechanicalLifeforms The Cybernetic Mechari,]]
and [[CrazyIsCool The Insane Chua]]
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** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? Most Exiles bar Granok do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion, being victims of attempted planetary genocide (Aurin), run off from their home planet for rebelling against an unfair class system (Exile Humans), and blockaded and denied aid against a deadly global disease (Mordesh). However, many Exiles themselves are not above resorting to terrorism and committing war crimes to get a leg up on the "filthy Dommies", whether it's by torturing captive civilians, biological and chemical warfare against non-combatants, or killing defenseless prisoners of war. In addition, the Exiles have a tendency to leave a ''ton'' of collateral damage in their wake when battling the Dominion, as evidenced by the zone stories of Galeras and Whitevale.

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** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's its right to settle on any planet? Most Exiles bar Granok do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion, being victims of attempted planetary genocide (Aurin), run off from their home planet for rebelling against an unfair class system (Exile Humans), and blockaded and denied aid against a deadly global disease (Mordesh). However, many Exiles themselves are not above resorting to terrorism and committing war crimes to get a leg up on the "filthy Dommies", whether it's by torturing captive civilians, biological and chemical warfare against non-combatants, or killing defenseless prisoners of war. In addition, the Exiles have a tendency to leave a ''ton'' of collateral damage in their wake when battling the Dominion, as evidenced by the zone stories of Galeras and Whitevale.



--->''Dominion Captive:'' *Sob* W-what do you w-want from m-me?
--->''Black Hoods Researcher:'' I just want you to do what Cassians do best... Bleeding and dying!

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite the game operating on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions having done horrid things with neither ''meant'' to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely got hit hardest with this. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons - namely to discover the fate of their Eldan progenitors - and have a justified reason for hunting the Exiled humans (attempted sedition) and Granok (armed rebellion), most citizens and government entities are shown to be ruthless, unrepentant, and near-fanatical in their devotion to the Dominion and the war against the Exiles. In addition, the Dominion has a rigidly-structured and highly stratified society based on eugenics, beaurocracy and brutal efficacy, with those deemed unworthy or lacking in ambition to be relegated to the lowest rungs of society. Add on the fact that the game and the lore doesn't particularly shy away from showing just how brutal and ruthless the Dominion can be against it's enemies, what with them having no qualms about engaging in planet-wide genocide and environmental degradation, and you get a recipe for an extremely unflattering image to most casual players, ranging from being considered [[CardCarryingVillain Card-Carrying Villains]] and [[AntiVillain Anti-Villains]] at best to [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] and [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] at worst. Of course, the Dominion does still have a sizable fanbase among those who once played the game, but most of that is chalked up to EvilIsCool rather than any genuine belief that the Dominion are the heroes of the story.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/01/10/what-wildstar-learned-from-bioshock-and-dark-souls As said by IGN]], "Sure, on the surface [=WildStar=] may look like it’s overflowing with cutesy characters but dig a little deeper and you’ll find a comic world bursting with crude jokes and filthy language."

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite the game operating on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions having done horrid things with neither ''meant'' to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely got hit hardest with this. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons - namely to discover the fate of their Eldan progenitors - and have a justified reason for hunting the Exiled humans (attempted sedition) and Granok (armed rebellion), most citizens and government entities are shown to be ruthless, unrepentant, and near-fanatical in their devotion to the Dominion and the war against the Exiles. In addition, the Dominion has a rigidly-structured and highly stratified society based on eugenics, beaurocracy bureaucracy and brutal efficacy, with those deemed unworthy or lacking in ambition to be relegated to the lowest rungs of society. Add on the fact that the game and the lore doesn't particularly shy away from showing just how brutal and ruthless the Dominion can be against it's enemies, what with them having no qualms about engaging in planet-wide genocide and environmental degradation, and you get a recipe for an extremely unflattering image to most casual players, ranging from being considered [[CardCarryingVillain Card-Carrying Villains]] and [[AntiVillain Anti-Villains]] at best to [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] and [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] at worst. Of course, the Dominion does still have a sizable fanbase among those who once played the game, but most of that is chalked up to EvilIsCool rather than any genuine belief that the Dominion are the heroes of the story.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/01/10/what-wildstar-learned-from-bioshock-and-dark-souls As said by IGN]], "Sure, on the surface [=WildStar=] may look like it’s it's overflowing with cutesy characters but dig a little deeper and you’ll you'll find a comic world bursting with crude jokes and filthy language."
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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a completely unredeemable and maglomaniacal galactic authority looking to subjugate all of the cosmos? The Dominion's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them an unrepentant totalitarian dictatorship steeped in nepotism and classism, but those who do live under the Dominion are taken care of and provided for (for the most part), Education is coveted, climbing the ranks by merit and hard work is possible, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're loyal and obedient to the empire.

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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a completely unredeemable and maglomaniacal megalomaniacal galactic authority looking to subjugate all of the cosmos? The Dominion's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them an unrepentant totalitarian dictatorship steeped in nepotism and classism, but those who do live under the Dominion are taken care of and provided for (for the most part), Education is coveted, climbing the ranks by merit and hard work is possible, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're loyal and obedient to the empire.
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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform.
** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? The Exiles do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion (especially Exile humans and ''especially'' the Aurin, given that the former turned into a DefectorFromDecadence due to draconian caste laws and the latter experienced outright ''genocide'') and are usually the victim at the hands of the Dominion, but there have been incidents that cross the MoralEventHorizon, such as the Hycrest Plague and the torture of captive Dominion citizens by the Black Hoods.

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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse completely unredeemable and maglomaniacal galactic authority looking to join their interstellar Empire? subjugate all of the cosmos? The Empire's Dominion's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, an unrepentant totalitarian dictatorship steeped in nepotism and classism, but those who do live within under the Empire Dominion are treated fairly and taken care of, of and provided for (for the most part), Education is coveted, climbing the ranks by merit and hard work is possible, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform.
obedient to the empire.
** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? The Most Exiles bar Granok do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion (especially Exile humans Dominion, being victims of attempted planetary genocide (Aurin), run off from their home planet for rebelling against an unfair class system (Exile Humans), and ''especially'' blockaded and denied aid against a deadly global disease (Mordesh). However, many Exiles themselves are not above resorting to terrorism and committing war crimes to get a leg up on the Aurin, given that "filthy Dommies", whether it's by torturing captive civilians, biological and chemical warfare against non-combatants, or killing defenseless prisoners of war. In addition, the former turned into Exiles have a DefectorFromDecadence due tendency to draconian caste laws and the latter experienced outright ''genocide'') and are usually the victim at the hands leave a ''ton'' of collateral damage in their wake when battling the Dominion, but there have been incidents that cross the MoralEventHorizon, such as the Hycrest Plague and the torture of captive Dominion citizens evidenced by the Black Hoods.zone stories of Galeras and Whitevale.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite the game operating on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions having done horrid things with neither ''meant'' to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely got hit with this hard. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian society based on aristocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, with their most notable action being the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. Add onto the fact that had the game gone on, they would have been cast in a negative light, being made to be [[UnwittingPawn the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially [[spoiler: inviting the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying with the Eldan Cube in Levian Bay and attracting the attention of the Exiles because of it]]. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]], tyrannical society, and being presented as the villain in trailers darkened their image to most audiences who just found the game to the point they were seen as [[AntiVillain noble dictators]] at best, and [[ALighterShadeOfBlack secondary antagonists]] at worst.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Despite the game operating on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions having done horrid things with neither ''meant'' to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely got hit hardest with this hard. this. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, reasons - namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism their Eldan progenitors - and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian justified reason for hunting the Exiled humans (attempted sedition) and Granok (armed rebellion), most citizens and government entities are shown to be ruthless, unrepentant, and near-fanatical in their devotion to the Dominion and the war against the Exiles. In addition, the Dominion has a rigidly-structured and highly stratified society based on aristocracy eugenics, beaurocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, brutal efficacy, with their most notable action being those deemed unworthy or lacking in ambition to be relegated to the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. lowest rungs of society. Add onto on the fact that had the game gone on, they would have been cast in a negative light, being made to be [[UnwittingPawn and the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially [[spoiler: inviting lore doesn't particularly shy away from showing just how brutal and ruthless the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying Dominion can be against it's enemies, what with the Eldan Cube them having no qualms about engaging in Levian Bay planet-wide genocide and attracting the attention of the Exiles because of it]]. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]], tyrannical society, environmental degradation, and being presented as the villain in trailers darkened their you get a recipe for an extremely unflattering image to most audiences who just found the game to the point they were seen as casual players, ranging from being considered [[CardCarryingVillain Card-Carrying Villains]] and [[AntiVillain noble dictators]] Anti-Villains]] at best, best to [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] and [[ALighterShadeOfBlack secondary antagonists]] [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] at worst.worst. Of course, the Dominion does still have a sizable fanbase among those who once played the game, but most of that is chalked up to EvilIsCool rather than any genuine belief that the Dominion are the heroes of the story.
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** Drop 4's main purpose is to fix most of the bugs that plagued in both vanilla and Drop 3 of Wildstar. In addition, it provided a new Shiphand mission for lower level, new dungeon, and in-game character customization option.

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** Drop 4's main purpose is to fix most of the bugs that plagued in both vanilla and Drop 3 of Wildstar.[=WildStar=]. In addition, it provided a new Shiphand mission for lower level, new dungeon, and in-game character customization option.



** The GreyAndGrayMorality of Wildstar. One side says that it's an InformedAttribute, while others have said that the beginning areas and the extra-game lore tend to create bias towards the Exiles and created a TaintedByThePreview situation.

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** The GreyAndGrayMorality of Wildstar.[=WildStar=]. One side says that it's an InformedAttribute, while others have said that the beginning areas and the extra-game lore tend to create bias towards the Exiles and created a TaintedByThePreview situation.



** Given that the game was called "[=WoW=] killer number seventeen", and very few games of this genre maintained a consistent playerbase above a couple thousand after the first year (sometimes even within a few ''months''.) it's only inevitable that some players are waiting a few months to see if the number of players logged in simply aren't simply playing Wildstar as a "One Night Stand". To be fair, this happens with a lot of online games, and has happened so much people are feeling apprehensive.

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** Given that the game was called "[=WoW=] killer number seventeen", and very few games of this genre maintained a consistent playerbase above a couple thousand after the first year (sometimes even within a few ''months''.) it's only inevitable that some players are waiting a few months to see if the number of players logged in simply aren't simply playing Wildstar [=WildStar=] as a "One Night Stand". To be fair, this happens with a lot of online games, and has happened so much people are feeling apprehensive.



** The F2P's new sprinting system, which became default movement toggle instead of holding shift to sprint, receiving scorns from older players.

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** The F2P's [=F2P=]'s new sprinting system, which became default movement toggle instead of holding shift to sprint, receiving scorns from older players.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some older Wildstar players have this opinion on F2P's new tutorial: in spite of its attempt to make Dominion less [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic vicious]], the majority of the lore content in the area was cut due to the lack of Artemis Zin's museum, the Vigilant Church, Belle Walker's laboratory, and the Rockin' Rowsdower.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some older Wildstar [=WildStar=] players have this opinion on F2P's [=F2P=]'s new tutorial: in spite of its attempt to make Dominion less [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic vicious]], the majority of the lore content in the area was cut due to the lack of Artemis Zin's museum, the Vigilant Church, Belle Walker's laboratory, and the Rockin' Rowsdower.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/01/10/what-wildstar-learned-from-bioshock-and-dark-souls As said by IGN]], "Sure, on the surface WildStar may look like it’s overflowing with cutesy characters but dig a little deeper and you’ll find a comic world bursting with crude jokes and filthy language."

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/01/10/what-wildstar-learned-from-bioshock-and-dark-souls As said by IGN]], "Sure, on the surface WildStar [=WildStar=] may look like it’s overflowing with cutesy characters but dig a little deeper and you’ll find a comic world bursting with crude jokes and filthy language."
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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause]] and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform.

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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause]] cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While the game does operate on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions have done horrid things with neither meant to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely gets hit with this hard. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian society based on aristocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, with their most notable action being the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. Add onto the fact that had the game gone on, they would have most certainly been made to be [[UnwittingPawn the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially [[spoiler: inviting the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying with the Eldan Cube in Levian Bay and attracting the attention of the Exiles because of it]]. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]] and them being presented as the villain in trailers continues to paint them in a negative light.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While Despite the game does operate operating on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions have having done horrid things with neither meant ''meant'' to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely gets got hit with this hard. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian society based on aristocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, with their most notable action being the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. Add onto the fact that had the game gone on, they would have most certainly been cast in a negative light, being made to be [[UnwittingPawn the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially [[spoiler: inviting the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying with the Eldan Cube in Levian Bay and attracting the attention of the Exiles because of it]]. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]] Exiles]], tyrannical society, and them being presented as the villain in trailers continues darkened their image to paint them in a negative light.most audiences who just found the game to the point they were seen as [[AntiVillain noble dictators]] at best, and [[ALighterShadeOfBlack secondary antagonists]] at worst.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While the game does operate on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions have done horrid things with neither meant to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely gets hit with this hard. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian society based on aristocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, with their most notable action being the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. Add onto the fact that had the game gone on, they would have most certainly been made to be [[UnwittingPawn the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially inviting the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying with the Eldan Cube in Levian Bay. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]] and them being presented as the villain in trailers continues to paint them in a negative light.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While the game does operate on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions have done horrid things with neither meant to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely gets hit with this hard. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian society based on aristocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, with their most notable action being the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. Add onto the fact that had the game gone on, they would have most certainly been made to be [[UnwittingPawn the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially [[spoiler: inviting the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying with the Eldan Cube in Levian Bay.Bay and attracting the attention of the Exiles because of it]]. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]] and them being presented as the villain in trailers continues to paint them in a negative light.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: While the game does operate on GrayAndGreyMorality and both factions have done horrid things with neither meant to be better than the other, the Dominion definitely gets hit with this hard. While they want Nexus for legitimate reasons, namely to discover the fate of the Eldan, the 4 races that made them up reek of sadism and psychopathy with the Chua being the worst of them with only the Mordesh rivaling all 4 of them combined, have a totalitarian society based on aristocracy and more often than not their actions are far more heinous than whatever the Exiles have done, with their most notable action being the planetary genocide they committed against the Aurin. Add onto the fact that had the game gone on, they would have most certainly been made to be [[UnwittingPawn the instigators]] due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Artemis]] essentially inviting the [[GreaterScopeVillain strain-infected Eldan]] back to Nexus after toying with the Eldan Cube in Levian Bay. Noble intentions or not, [[NotHelpingYourCase their continued cruelty towards the Exiles]] and them being presented as the villain in trailers continues to paint them in a negative light.
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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform.

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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause cause]] and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform.
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** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? The Exiles do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion (especially Exile humans and ''especially'' the Aurin, given that the former turned into a DefectorFromDecadence due to draconian caste laws and the latter experienced outright ''genocide'') and are usually the victim at the hands of the dominion, but there have been incidents that cross the MoralEventHorizon, such as the Hycrest Plague and the torture of captive Dominion citizens by the Black Hoods.

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** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? The Exiles do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion (especially Exile humans and ''especially'' the Aurin, given that the former turned into a DefectorFromDecadence due to draconian caste laws and the latter experienced outright ''genocide'') and are usually the victim at the hands of the dominion, Dominion, but there have been incidents that cross the MoralEventHorizon, such as the Hycrest Plague and the torture of captive Dominion citizens by the Black Hoods.
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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're loyal and conform to the system.

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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest so long as they're Highborns, loyal and conform to the system.conform.
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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest.
** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? The Exiles do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion (especially Exile humans and ''especially'' the Aurin, given that the former turned into a DefectorFromDecadence due to draconian caste laws and the latter experienced outright ''genocide''), but there have been incidents that cross the MoralEventHorizon, such as the Hycrest Plague and the torture of captive Dominion citizens by the Black Hoods.

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** [[TheEmpire The Dominion]]: Admirable (if not somewhat ruthless) Empire with a noble cause and plausible claim to Nexus, or a totalitarian dictatorship with a zero-tolerance policy towards those who refuse to join their interstellar Empire? The Empire's methodology and Luminai-centered caste system makes them slide towards the Totalitarian Dictatorship end of the scale, but those who do live within the Empire are treated fairly and taken care of, Education is coveted, and most officials within the government operate in the people's best interest.
interest so long as they're loyal and conform to the system.
** [[LaResistance The Exiles]]: Refugees and war casualties seeking a home? Or mere criminal scum that has long lost it's right to settle on any planet? The Exiles do have a good reason to stand against the Dominion (especially Exile humans and ''especially'' the Aurin, given that the former turned into a DefectorFromDecadence due to draconian caste laws and the latter experienced outright ''genocide''), ''genocide'') and are usually the victim at the hands of the dominion, but there have been incidents that cross the MoralEventHorizon, such as the Hycrest Plague and the torture of captive Dominion citizens by the Black Hoods.
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** However this has changed with WildStar's continuing decline, with most of the fandom of the opinion that Carbine Studios mismanaged the game ''very'' badly. As of writing (August 2016), Quarterly Revenue posted for WildStar [[https://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/4x5dw0/ncsoft_2q2016_earnings_report/ shows]] that it only made a profit of ''$2 Million USD''. Keep in mind, this is an AAA MMO on the scale of ''VideoGame/GuildWars2''.

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** However this has changed with WildStar's [=WildStar=]'s continuing decline, with most of the fandom of the opinion that Carbine Studios mismanaged the game ''very'' badly. As of writing (August 2016), Quarterly Revenue posted for WildStar [=WildStar=] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/4x5dw0/ncsoft_2q2016_earnings_report/ shows]] that it only made a profit of ''$2 Million USD''. Keep in mind, this is an AAA MMO on the scale of ''VideoGame/GuildWars2''.
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* InternetBackdraft: Not to the game itself, but more than a few players refuse to touch it simply because NCSoft's track record of shutting down [[VideoGame/CityOfHeroes Beloved games]]
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*** A lot of people also quit because [[FakeLongevity these contrivances were made to inflate the time spent playing]]. It turns out players in 2015 didn't have as much free time as they did in 2006....
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* FandomBerserkButton: DO NOT, under ANY circumstances, mention ANY similarities to ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. Even if you mention having fundamental genre traits, mentioning them will usually cause people to flame you. That said, some people ''have'' made a few jokes - such as calling the dominion "[[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft The Horde]] [[RecycledInSPACE IN SPACE]]
** This seems to be a button shared for ''every single MMO in the market''. Seriously, compare any MMO to World of Warcraft and prepare yourself for the wrath of a thousand suns from the players within that same game.
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