YMMV / Ultimate X-Men


  • Alternative Character Interpretation: This version of Professor X is so pragmatic one could argue he's an evil version of his 616 counterpart.
  • Ass Pull:
    • After conclusively killing off Wolverine permanently in Ultimatum, Jeph Loeb introduces his never-before-hinted-at son, who just happens to have nearly the exact same powers as his old man, including claws which can somehow turn metal.
    • And then two issues after, Jeph Loeb introduces the son of the Blob, who also has his father's powers, and joins the Brotherhood of Mutants. Odder still, his daughter Liz Allen/Firestar, is rarely mentioned, despite being well-established elsewhere in The 'Verse.
  • Critical Research Failure: The US federal legislature passes a law which makes it illegal to be a mutant, the penalty being summary execution. This is called a bill of attainder, twice forbidden by the US federal constitution and further forbidden by every single state constitution. And that's not even touching the other problems such a bill would face just to get to the point of being voted on.
  • Crosses the Line Twice: Mr. Sinister shoving Xavier down a flight of stairs would usually be horrifying; except that here he does it while declaring that stairs are Xavier's Kryptonite Factor. This, along with the comedically deadpan manner he does it, cause the scene to become hilarious.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy:
    • The first of the Ultimate Marvel books to hit the GrimDark wall (more so than the also Millar-written The Ultimates, which at least had a cynical edge to its humor), particularly during the "Weapon X" story arc. That, however, could be chalked up to a minor Creator Breakdown on the part of Mark Millar - he was stuck in the hospital with chronic pain due to a debilitating illness at the time of writing. He later admitted in an interview that he was projecting much of the misery he was feeling onto the characters.
    • Most of the stuff leading up to, and following, from Ultimatum suffers from this. The heroes are pricks, the villains are worse, and the world is a crapsack one.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Pyro had very little screen time, only a few lines and didn't do much, but the fandom loved him. Until his character got derailed...
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Most of the stuff leading up to Ultimatum has had a less than stellar reception, in no small part because it takes Darker and Edgier to an absolutely ridiculous extreme.
  • Franchise Original Sin: This is where the Ultimate Marvel line began dipping into making its characters darker. Several of the X-Men came from rougher backgrounds and were notably less sympathetic than their original counterparts, with even Magneto losing sympathy by no longer being a Holocaust survivor. Originally, this was okay in that it made the characters more distinct and the characters still could Pet the Dog and earn enough victories to keep the story from getting too grim. It was when this trend crept into the other Ultimate lines in excess without a balance of heroism and successes that interest in Ultimate Marvel as a whole began to slide downhill.
  • Ham and Cheese: The adventure scenarios Nightcrawler and Colossus play in the Danger Room, everything from Pirates of the Caribbean to The Lord of the Rings.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The series begins with government-sponsored Sentinels murdering innocent people on the streets, then claiming they were mutant "terrorists". When was this issue released? February 2001. And the first story arc ends with Magneto, the absolutely evil leader of a terrorist anti-human group, unleashing sentinels in Washington DC, causing an untold number of deaths and destruction, laying waste to the White House and having the president George Bush (yes, the comics referenced him by name) naked and helpless before him while he delivers his New Era Speech. Ultimate X-Men #5, July 2001.
    • Kirkman's run ends with the Phoenix pulling off a big damn Reset Button, as a way of giving everyone a second chance. And then in less than a year, Ultimatum happens, killing off pretty much all of the X-Men. Even some of the characters in Ultimate Comics X-Men point this out.
    • When Magneto returned, Nick Fury started setting up defenses in the White House. "The White House is gonna be a virtual fortress by the time I'm finished with it. Absolutely secure against both post-human and nuclear attack". And it did work... until the Maker blown up all of Washington DC.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: In issue #87 the Fenris brothers mention their plans with the "All New, All Different" sentinels.
  • Ho Yay: Xavier and Magneto apparently got along so well that they spent over seventy hours discussing their ideas for Mutant society and left their respective human wives to work on the Savage Land together.
  • I Am Not Shazam: Dazzler was originally the name of Allison's band, which she insisted on reminding people, but eventually became her codename.
  • Inferred Holocaust: Even though it is rarely mentioned, Stryker's camps imprisoned, demoralized, humiliated, dehumanized, and executed mutants they captured. After Kitty's bombardment of Utopia, it has been implied that several mutants on Tian did not escape alive.
  • Iron Woobie: Beast has gone through abuse after abuse since he was born from his parental abuse and abandonment to extensive experimentation by the Weapon X Program to his multiple near death experiences. In spite of it all, he still tries to keep an upbeat and friendly persona albeit with an ever-looming inferiority complex. It makes his eventual and randomized permanent death all the more heart-wrenching.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Proteus is undeniably a little shit, but his life wasn't exactly sunshine and roses. An absentee dad who was more interested in his best friend than his family, bullying by said friend's own children, and a mutant power than meant he had to be strapped to a table and doped to the gills just to stay alive.
  • Like You Would Really Do It: Sure, one of Ultimate Marvel's big premises is that death would be permanent, but who really thought that Magneto, the main X-Men villain (and one of the main stars of the film franchise to boot) would be really killed off at the end of the very first arc? 8 years later, after being used in a good number of stories, is another thing; but the first arc is clearly not his last appearance.
  • Memetic Mutation: Professor X had ONE weakness - stairs.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • How about everything Magneto does, to unflinchingly attempting genocide of the human race, to kneecapping his own son? And the Weapon X crew, particularly Wraith? Wraith and Magneto don't cross the Moral Event Horizon, they are living, breathing Moral Event Horizons.
    • Mr. Sinister pushing Professor Xavier down a flight of stairs. That's just cruel, not to mention extremely petty. It also qualifies as a Crosses the Line Twice moment.
    • For some, Wolverine crossed this when he stabbed Cyclops and left him to bleed to death, purely to get him out of the way so he could go back to plowing Jean. That bites him bad in the ass when Cyclops turns out to be Not Quite Dead...
  • Narm:
    • The way people treat mutants already caused some Fridge Logic in the mainstream Marvel-verse, but here the bigotry is made so outrageously over-the-top and rampant that it starts unintentionally crossing into Black Comedy (for example, in the very first issue Ice Man saves a group of people from getting crushed by a falling Sentinel and not even ten-seconds after an old woman at least in her sixties chucks a bottle at his head and splits his skull open).
    • Magneto's Abusive Parent tendencies are equally as over-the-top. His request for Cyclops to refer to him as "Father" whenever Quicksilver is present is both hilariously cruel and juvenile.
    • Jeph Loeb's Ultimate X series uses a side-character narrating in every issue, without exception. It gets old pretty fast.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: After Kirkman left, the very next story arc had Nightcrawler go out of his way to make amends for his bad behavior during said run, feeling guilt and shame for treating his best friend so poorly and being the first to join Piotr in saving his boyfriend. Sadly, not much comes of this as he is quickly killed off in Ultimatum.
  • Rooting for the Empire: The revelation that mutants are in fact a failed Super Soldier program brings about a lot of Harsher in Hindsight moments about the X-Menís past actions making it seem like psychosis might be a side effect of the X-gene. Combined with Ultimatum and unlike in the main universe it is far more understandable why rampant mutant hatred is spreading.
    • It doesnít help that this revelation means that all of the blame is placed on the government and all mutants have to do is wait something they just refused to do.
    • When you add to that the death of the warden of Camp Angle the man honestly tried to bring about unity between mutants and humans. He put a stop to his subordinateís torturous acts. He worked with the cooperating mutates to reach a common goal only to be the first one killed after the above mentioned revelation.
  • The Scrappy: Wolverine for his creepy obsession to Jean. His willingness to Murder the Hypotenuse did not help either.
  • Strawman Has a Point: Sure, Magneto may be an evil terrorist leader with no redeeming qualities, but some things he say make a lot of sense. "Man is alone among the animals when it comes to taking pleasure in the suffering of others". "This world is more than five billion years old, and yet, in just two hundred years, homo sapiens has created an environment which will only sustain us for another few decades. They invented war. They wrote manuals on torture".
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Cable winds up being a future version of Wolverine. Ironically, his appearance foreshadowed Old Man Logan's appearance by four years.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Despite of their changes, Xavier and Magneto have the mainstream attitudes towards the relation between humans and mutants: Xavier proposes pacific coexistence, Magneto proposes mutant supremacy. And then it turns out that, unlike the prime earth, Mutants are not the next step of evolution, but people who got powers because of nanobots. However, we never find out how would Xavier or Magneto have reacted to this. Xavier died before knowing about it, and Magneto was killed before he could get past the initial shock.
  • What an Idiot!: Upon finding out that Magician was tapering with the X-Men's minds, Xavier confronts him about it and asks to talk. Magician is also willing to talk things through.
    You'd Expect: The X-Men cooperate, listen to Magician's story, then decide what to do with him after hearing all the facts.
    Instead: Cyclops immediately accuses him of being a traitor, and all the X-Men sans Xavier attack with the intent to kill, despite the fact that Magician is pleading for them not to.
  • The Woobie: Colossus.


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