YMMV / Ultimate X-Men


  • Alternate Character Interpretation: This version of Professor X is so morally questionable one could argue he's an evil version of his 616 counterpart.
  • Ass Pull:
    • John Wraith, introduced and written as a sadistic monster with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, somehow turning into Vindicator, with that whole "tortured and experimented on mutants" thing largely swept under the rug.
    • Pyro, despite being introduced as one of the good guys, was inexplicably made into a villain in Ultimates 3.
    • After conclusively killing off Wolverine permanently in Ultimatum, Jeph Loeb introduces his never-before-hinted-at son, who just happens to have nearly the exact same powers as his old man, including claws which can somehow turn metal.
      • And then two issues after, Jeph Loeb introduces the son of the Blob, who also has his father's powers, and joins the Brotherhood of Mutants. Odder still, his daughter Liz Allen/Firestar, is rarely mentioned, despite being well-established elsewhere in The Verse.
  • Critical Research Failure: Gods, demons and monsters, where to even begin!? For one particularly egregious example, the US federal legislature passes a law which makes it illegal to be a mutant, the penalty being summary execution. This is called a bill of attainder, twice forbidden by the US federal constitution and further forbidden by every single state constitution. And that's not even touching the other problems such a bill would face just to get to the point of being voted on. There are many other examples.
  • Crosses the Line Twice: Mr. Sinister shoving Xavier down a flight of stairs would usually be horrifying; except that here he does it while declaring that stairs are Xavier's Kryptonite Factor. This, along with the comedically deadpan manner he does it, cause the scene to become hilarious.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: Most stuff leading up to, and following from Ultimatum, suffers from this, as the heroes are pricks, the villains are worse, the world is such a crapsack one that many want it destroyed as a mercy kill of sorts...
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Pyro had very little screen time, only a few lines and didn't do much, but the fandom loved him. Until his character got derailed...
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Most of the stuff leading up to Ultimatum has had a less than stellar reception, in no small part because it takes Darker and Edgier to an absolutely ridiculous extreme.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The series begins with government-sponsored Sentinels murdering innocent people on the streets, then claiming they were mutant "terrorists". When was this issue released? February 2001.
    • Kirkman's run ends with the Phoenix pulling off a big damn Reset Button, as a way of giving everyone a second chance. And then in less than a year, Ultimatum happens, killing off pretty much all of the X-Men. Even some of the characters in Ultimate Comics X-Men point this out.
  • Ham and Cheese: The adventure scenarios Nightcrawler and Colossus play in the Danger Room, everything from Pirates of the Caribbean to The Lord of the Rings.
  • I Am Not Shazam: Dazzler was originally the name of Allison's band, which she insisted on reminding people, but eventually became her codename.
  • Inferred Holocaust: Even though it is rarely mentioned, Stryker's camps imprisoned, demoralized, humiliated, dehumanized, and executed mutants they captured. After Kitty's bombardment of Utopia it has been implied that several mutants on Tian did not escape alive.
  • Iron Woobie: Beast has gone through abuse after abuse since he was born from his parental abuse and abandonment to extensive experimentation by the Weapon X Program to his multiple near death experiences. In spite of it all, he still tries to keep an upbeat and friendly persona albeit with an ever-looming inferiority complex. It makes his eventual and randomized permanent death all the more heart-wrenching.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Proteus is undeniably a little shit, but his life wasn't exactly sunshine and roses. An absentee dad who was more interested in his best friend than his family, bullying by said friend's own children, and a mutant power than meant he had to be strapped to a table and doped to the gills just to stay alive.
  • Memetic Mutation: Professor X had ONE weakness - stairs.
  • Moral Event Horizon
    • How about everything Magneto does, to unflinchingly attempting genocide of the human race, to kneecapping his own son? And the Weapon X crew, particularly Wraith? Wraith and Magneto don't cross the Moral Event Horizon, they are living, breathing Moral Event Horizons.
    • Mr. Sinister pushing Professor Xavier down a flight of stairs. That's just cruel, not to mention extremely petty. It also qualifies as a Crosses the Line Twice moment.
    • For some, Wolverine crossed this when he stabbed Cyclops and left him to bleed to death, purely to get him out of the way so he could go back to plowing Jean. That bites him bad in the ass when Cyclops turns out to be Not Quite Dead...
  • Narm:
    • The way people treat mutants already caused some Fridge Logic in the mainstream Marvel-verse, but here the bigotry is made so outrageously over-the-top and rampant that it starts unintentionally crossing into Black Comedy (for example, in the very first issue Ice Man saves a group of people from getting crushed by a falling Sentinel and not even ten-seconds after an old woman at least in her sixties chucks a bottle at his head and splits his skull open).
    • Jeph Loeb's Ultimate X series uses a side-character narrating in every issue, without exception. It gets old pretty fast.
  • Rooting for the Empire: The revelation that mutants are in fact a failed Super Soldier program brings about a lot of Harsher in Hindsight moments about the X-Menís past actions making it seem like psychosis might be a side effect of the xgene. Combined with Ultimatum and unlike in the main universe it is far more understandable why rampant mutant hatred is spreading.
    • It doesnít help that this revelation means that all of the blame is placed on the government and all mutants have to do is wait something they just refused to do.
    • When you add to that the death of the warden of Camp Angle the man honestly tried to bring about unity between mutants and humans. He put a stop to his subordinateís torturous acts. He worked with the cooperating mutates to reach a common goal only to be the first one killed after the above mentioned revelation.
  • The Scrappy:
    • Magician, who was intended as a satire of the Mary Sue but instead just ended up becoming an obnoxious Villain Sue Karma Houdini.
    • Nightcrawler, after he was turned into a homophobe, complete with an appalling Kick the Dog moment to poor Colossus. This was coupled with him becoming a Stalker with a Crush to Dazzler.
    • One could that this series is considered a Scrappy for the Ultimate Marvel universe due to it's wildly varying quality, absurd darkness, and being the lead-in to Ultimatum, the near-universally despised Dork Age of Ultimate Marvel.
  • They Just Didn't Care: After Robert Kirkman left the title, the following creative teams seemed to care less about the Ultimate Universe's continuity and seemed to treat the book as a mainline X-Title. Post-Ultimatum writers did their best to try and right the ship, but it's telling that when the Ultimate line collapsed in 2015, only Miles Morales and his supporting cast was deemed worthy of being carried over to the 616-Marvel Universe.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Cable winds up being a future version of Wolverine. Ironically, his appearance foreshadowed Old Man Logan's appearance by four years.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The series was an alternate universe version of the X-Men, meant to retell and redefine classic stories and characters from one of the biggest comic book franchises of all time, which many feel it did...with mixed results.
  • The Woobie: Colossus.

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