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YMMV: The Smiths
  • Americans Hate Tingle: Though they had a substantial cult that continues to this day, The Smiths were never as huge in America as they were in their native England. The American underground was already preoccupied with another jangly guitar outfit.
  • Anvilicious: The title track from Meat Is Murder.
  • Awesome Music:
    • Albums: The Queen is Dead and Strangeways, Here We Come, both debated between critics, fans, and Morrissey and Marr as their peak.
    • Songs: "How Soon is Now?"
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: There a quite a few songs that fans love, but which were never released as singles, including "The Queen is Dead," "Paint a Vulgar Picture," and "The Headmaster Ritual."
  • Epileptic Trees: Morrissey predicted the death of Princess Diana.
  • Face of the Band: Shockingly enough, there were two other guys in the band besides Morrissey and Johnny Marr.
  • Fridge Brilliance:
    • The phrase "Paint a Vulgar Picture" is from Oscar Wilde, who wrote "The Picture of Dorian Gray"... about a man who sells his soul for eternal youth.
    • In "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish," he never actually says the full title of the song, just the first half- he starts it, but doesn't finish.
  • Funny Moments: Needed their own page.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The Smiths are still the most popular band on the East Side of Los Angeles.
  • Growing the Beard: Their self-titled debut was well-received but noted as poorly produced. Meat is Murder had better production but also more filler and narm. The Queen is Dead had both good production and a consistently good tracklisting, and as such is considered by many to be their best.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • "Paint A Vulgar Picture" just gets funnier and funnier (or sadder and sadder) with every compilation.
    • Johnny Marr changed his name to avoid confusion with John Maher, the Buzzcocks drummer. Mike Joyce later became the drummer for the Buzzcocks.
  • Ho Yay: Plenty of lyrics reference or allude to gay issues, as well as Morrissey and Johnny's interactions during the band's tenure. (Moz being Ambiguously Gay didn't hurt.)
  • Magnum Opus Dissonance: Critics claim The Queen is Dead as the band's best album, but Morrissey and Marr prefer Strangeways, Here We Come.
  • Narm: "Meat Is Murder", especially those synthesized animal death sounds and the cheesy pitch-manipulated backing vocals.
  • Nightmare Fuel: The creepy laughter in the middle of "Suffer Little Children". The subject matter of the song doesn't help in the slightest.
  • Sophomore Slump: Meat Is Murder, which - despite containing two of their best known songs, "How Soon is Now?" and "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" and fan favorites "The Headmaster Ritual", "Barbarism Begins at Home" and "Nowhere Fast" - is still considered their least enjoyable record due to the amount of filler surrounding those five songs. Still an excellent album and critically acclaimed.
  • Wangst: While some of their songs are definitely angst-ridden, this has been seriously exaggerated by people who miss the humor in Moz's lyrics. Electronic (Johnny's next band) took some pot shots at this in their song "Getting Away With It".

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