YMMV / The Ramones

  • Broken Base:
  • Covered Up: "I Don't Want to Grow Up" was by Tom Waits from Bone Machine (it helps they've written many songs that are either "I Wanna X" or "I Don't Want X").
    • Their version of "Surfin' Bird" was this for a long time, though it's up for debate now after the Trashmen's original went memetic after an episode of Family Guy.
    • It takes a truly mighty band to do this to The Beach Boys, and the Ramones did just that with "Do You Wanna Dance."
    • The band scored a UK top ten hit with their cover of The Ronettes' "Baby I Love You", while the original is pretty much forgotten these days.
  • Critical Dissonance: At least regarding album sales, as the band is popular with critics and has many fans but never had a studio album above #44 at the Billboard 200, and only had two certified records (Gold for both the compilation Ramones Mania and the DVD Raw).
  • Dork Age: The better part of The '80s, let's face it. They had their moments (most notably the minor classic Too Tough to Die from 1984) but fans are divided over their heavily produced pop crossovers.
  • Ear Worm: The repetitive and to-the-point lyrics and music turn most of their discography into this.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Marky is better remembered as the Ramones' drummer than Tommy. Also, Dee Dee.
  • Epic Riff: For the sake of brevity, let's just say a lot. Especially on the first four albums.
  • Face of the Band: Joey Ramone, the voice of generations of disaffected rebels, misfits, and losers.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Fans will say that they never released a 60's themed Cover Album called Acid Eaters. They never worked on End of the Century with Phil Spector, either, and Dee Dee was never threatened with a gun.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The band helped launch Punk Rock in Britain and Spain, where they were one of the 80's most important bands. (And, for that matter, everywhere else.)
  • Grandfather Clause: Despite the fact that they admitted to being highly pop influenced, they are almost never subject to the "pop-punk, not punk" mentality that dedicated punk fans hold, all because of being one of the first punk bands.
  • Growing the Beard: Sure, Ramones kickstarted punk almost by itself. But critics almost universally agree that Rocket to Russia was when the band really came into their own, and many prefer the latter album.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Their last studio album is called "¡Adios Amigos!" ("¡Goodbye, buddies!"). After such album and the consequent tour, the band disbanded, and the four founding members died of different illnesses.
    • Joey's solo song, "I Got Knocked Down (But I'll Get Up)" from his solo album Don't Worry About Me is heartbreaking under the circumstances by the time it was released, lymphoma had already taken his life.
    • The music video of "Pet Sematary" features the band at a cemetery, performing to which a tombstone is put on top of them as they're technically buried alive. This is worse now that Joey, Johnny, and Dee Dee are gone (Tommy as well tragically, but he left the band well before the time Brain Drain was recorded).
    • Too Tough to Die. The title is very tragic because, out of the four members who performed on the album, only drummer Richie Ramone is still alive.
    • In "Love Kills" from Animal Boy (a song Dee Dee wrote about his friend Sid Vicious and Sid's girlfriend Nancy Spungen), Dee Dee sang this line that practically foretold how he'd pass away years later:
    When you're hooked on heroin
    Don't you know you'll never win
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Joey rejecting ping pong and the Viet Cong in "I'm Against It": Anyone remember Forrest Gump?
  • Music to Invade Poland To: They had goofy semi-hits like "Today Your Love, Tomorrow the World" and "Kommando" that traded on Nazi imagery. A few listeners didn't get the joke, and didn't realize that Joey was Jewish.
  • Narm/So Bad, It's Good:
    • Dee Dee's out-of-print solo debut (under the name Dee Dee King) Standing In The Spotlight. While there are songs that are more typically Ramones-esque, most tracks prominently feature him rapping in a tone of voice that has been memorably compared to "a cartoon moose" and making memorable boasts like "I'm the cut-creator, the master of rap\ when I walk down the street, homeboys tip their hat". What might be the weirdest moment on a fairly bizarre album is a hip-hop update of 60's dance craze "Mashed Potato Time" featuring back-up vocals from Debbie Harry note . The Ramones themselves did evidently like one song enough to remake it, though - they recorded a version of "The Crusher" that altered the lyrics, removed the Rap Rock elements, and featured Dee Dee's replacement CJ Ramone on vocals.
    • While it's actually an outtake, one song coming from this same period was a silly but adorable rap written from the point of view of Dee Dee's pet cat.
  • Nightmare Fuel: The artwork for Brain Drain. Yikes!
    • The absolutely hideous animated version of the band in the music video for "Spider-Man".
  • Seasonal Rot: The general consensus is that this happened sometime after Road to Ruin. Whether this includes End of the Century or not is the subject of debate.
  • Seinfeld Is Unfunny: As with a lot of early punk bands, suffers from this in spades. After all manner of harder, faster styles (Hardcore Punk for instance) have made their presence known in the ensuing decades, some people may find the early Ramones albums to be a little slow, and would have trouble appreciating how absolutely blistering they would've sounded to listeners in the 70s.
  • Signature Song: "Blitzkrieg Bop" and "I Wanna Be Sedated".
  • Snark Bait: The fact that all their songs sound near-identical. A common joke about them is saying "I love all of their song."
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Many fans disliked End of the Century due to the more mainstream sound.
  • Vindicated by History: They were not very popular during their day (at least in their home country, as the punk movement was mostly underground) but are today a staple of classic rock radio.
  • "Weird Al" Effect: "Pinhead" (Gabba gabba we accept you, we accept you one of us!), is actually a reference to the cult horror movie Freaks.
  • The Woobie: A definitive example, although they can all range to Iron Woobie. The Ramones were a very influential band that suffered immense Vindicated by History and had very bad relationships with each other (Joey and Johnny especially), especially as they went on in their lives. The tragedy especially hits hard that after they broke up and only after the death of Joey did the band get recognition for their influence, which only spread when Dee Dee, Johnny, and Tommy decades later would pass away. While Marky, C.J. and Ritchie Ramone are still around, the original line up were the true forerunners of punk rock, and the brutal irony of that they put themselves as brothers when they were at each others throats makes it depressing. Even Rolling Stone noted this and pitied them.