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* VindicatedByHistory: While the third movie was criticized by many as a rehash of the first movie, ''Series/CobraKai'' has led people to look back on it in a different light given season 3 explored Kreese's friendship with Terry Silver in flashbacks, and [[spoiler:season 4 brought back Terry Silver in person]].

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* VindicatedByHistory: While the third movie was criticized by many as a rehash of the first movie, ''Series/CobraKai'' has led people to look back on it in a different light given season Season 3 explored Kreese's friendship with Terry Silver in flashbacks, and [[spoiler:season [[spoiler:Season 4 brought back Terry Silver in person]].
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans of the second film could just view it as the GrandFinale of the Karate Kid franchise while ignoring the rest that follows completely... until ''Series/CobraKai.'' Amusingly, ''Cobra Kai'' treats the third film as canon, since Daniel's second tournament win is acknowledged, a big point is made of how Johnny doesn't know Terry Silver or Mike Barnes when he's getting the ban on Cobra Kai lifted to participate in the All-Valley, Kreese's backstory with Terry Silver gets explored in season 3, [[spoiler:and Silver appears in season 4]].

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans of the second film could just view it as the GrandFinale of the Karate Kid franchise while ignoring the rest that follows completely... until ''Series/CobraKai.'' Amusingly, ''Cobra Kai'' treats the third film as canon, since Daniel's second tournament win is acknowledged, a big point is made of how Johnny doesn't know Terry Silver or Mike Barnes when he's getting the ban on Cobra Kai lifted to participate in the All-Valley, Kreese's backstory with Terry Silver gets explored in season 3, [[spoiler:and Silver appears in season 4]].4, followed by Barnes in season 5]].
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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his grudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit. The penultimate Season 2 has Daniel mention the deleted scene moment of Johnny having putting a blueberry pie on his chair that he ended up sitting on and Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.

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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides decided to highlight some of his negative traits, traits so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his grudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that him picking up on nerds is an old habit. The penultimate Season 2 has Daniel mention the deleted scene moment of Johnny having putting a blueberry pie on his chair that he ended up sitting on and Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.
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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his grudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit. Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.

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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his grudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit. The penultimate Season 2 has Daniel mention the deleted scene moment of Johnny having putting a blueberry pie on his chair that he ended up sitting on and Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.
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* IncorruptiblePurePureness: Mr. Miyagi. Sure, like all humans he has his flaws, but he's willing to admit them and goes as far as to atone for his actions throughout ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII.'' But overall, he's a wise mentor and the perfect father figure to Daniel [=LaRusso=] and Julie Pierce. It really shows when he doesn't take too much pride over his craft, unlike his eventual successor Daniel.
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* IncorruptiblePurePureness: Mr. Miyagi. Sure, like all humans he has his flaws, but he's willing to admit them and goes as far as to atone for his actions throughout ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII.'' But overall, he's a wise mentor and the perfect father figure to Daniel [=LaRusso=] and Julie Pierce. It really shows when he doesn't take too much pride over his craft, unlike his eventual successor Daniel.
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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his gudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit. Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.

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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his gudge, grudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit. Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.
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** ''Glory of Love'' would've been a super ultra narmy and cheesy love song that TastesLikeDiabetes... if it wasn't performed by a pro like Peter Cetera, who makes it really charming.

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** ''Glory of Love'' would've been a super ultra narmy and cheesy love song that TastesLikeDiabetes...is disgustingly sweet... if it wasn't performed by a pro like Peter Cetera, who makes it really charming.
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* FoeYayShipping: Daniel/Johnny (also known as [=LawRusso=]) is easily the most popular ship from the franchise, going all the way back to the original film. Their shippers like to ignore the fact that Johnny bullied Daniel relentlessly in high school, including making him so traumatized that he wanted to move away, as well as them forming a rivalry that lasted until they were both well into adulthood. This mainly comes from the fact that Johnny gracefully accepts that Daniel won the tournament in the first movie and how the ''Series/CobraKai'' series gives a lot of focus to their rivalry.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Pat Morita was known mainly as a comedian and comic actor prior to being cast as Mr. Miyagi, and the now-iconic role gave him several chances to demonstrate a fantastic emotional range, like his tragic DrowningMySorrows scene in part I and the reunion with Yukie and mourning for his father in part II..

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Pat Morita was known mainly as a comedian and comic actor prior to being cast as Mr. Miyagi, and the now-iconic role gave him several chances to demonstrate a fantastic emotional range, like his tragic DrowningMySorrows scene in part I and the reunion with Yukie and mourning for his father in part II..II.
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* HeReallyCanAct: Pat Morita was known mainly as a comedian and comic actor prior to being cast as Mr. Miyagi, and the now-iconic role gave him several chances to demonstrate a fantastic emotional range, like his tragic DrowningMySorrows scene in part I and the reunion with Yukie and mourning for his father in part II..

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* HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Pat Morita was known mainly as a comedian and comic actor prior to being cast as Mr. Miyagi, and the now-iconic role gave him several chances to demonstrate a fantastic emotional range, like his tragic DrowningMySorrows scene in part I and the reunion with Yukie and mourning for his father in part II..
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* HeReallyCanAct: Pat Morita was known mainly as a comedian and comic actor prior to being cast as Mr. Miyagi, and the now-iconic role gave him several chances to demonstrate a fantastic emotional range, like his tragic DrowningMySorrows scene in part I and the reunion with Yukie and mourning for his father in part II..
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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his gudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit.

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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as too petty in his gudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit. Season 4 has a few of those deleted scenes also included via flashbacks.
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Villain is a massive stretch


*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behaviour is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as a complete villain, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit.

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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behaviour behavior is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as a complete villain, too petty in his gudge, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit.
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*** Some deleted scenes actually show Johnny intentionally harassing Daniel and humiliating him in front of everyone and clearly daring him to retaliate. Since those scenes were deleted, Johnny’s bad behaviour is a little downplayed in the movie proper. ''Series/CobraKai'' decides to highlight some of his negative traits, so that Daniel doesn’t come across as a complete villain, like having Johnny openly admit that he believes Swirlies are hilarious and openly admitting that picking up on nerds is an old habit.
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** Lucille- Daniel's mother. It would have been nice if they had given her more scenes in general (let alone the second film), plus it would have also been a heartwarming reunion if they brought her back in at the end of the third film.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans of the second film could just view it as the GrandFinale of the Karate Kid franchise while ignoring the rest that follows completely... until ''Series/CobraKai.'' Amusingly, ''Cobra Kai'' treats the third film as canon, since Daniel's second tournament win is acknowledged and Johnny is asked about Terry Silver and Mike Barnes, though it seems he doesn't know them.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans of the second film could just view it as the GrandFinale of the Karate Kid franchise while ignoring the rest that follows completely... until ''Series/CobraKai.'' Amusingly, ''Cobra Kai'' treats the third film as canon, since Daniel's second tournament win is acknowledged and acknowledged, a big point is made of how Johnny is asked about Terry Silver and Mike Barnes, though it seems he doesn't know them.Terry Silver or Mike Barnes when he's getting the ban on Cobra Kai lifted to participate in the All-Valley, Kreese's backstory with Terry Silver gets explored in season 3, [[spoiler:and Silver appears in season 4]].



-->"Get him a body-bag! Ye-heah!"\\
"Sweep the leg."\\
"Johnny, you're a cream puff!"\\
"Banzai!"\\
"Daniel-san."\\
"Strike first. Strike hard. No Mercy!"\\
"Mercy is for the weak!"\\
And of course, "WaxOnWaxOff."

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-->"Get **"Get him a body-bag! Ye-heah!"\\
"Sweep
Ye-heah!"[[note]]Tommy encouraging Johnny during the fight with Daniel at the tournament[[/note]]
**"Sweep
the leg."\\
"Johnny,
"[[note]]Kreese tells Johnny to attack Daniel's leg injury that Bobby had inflicted in the semis.[[/note]]
***"You have a problem with that?" "No, sensei."[[note]]Kreese's pointed remark to intimidate Johnny into carrying out the order. Has reappeared in ''Series/CobraKai'' where Kreese has an identical exchange to this with Hawk, and Tory also uses this phrase at one point.[[/note]]
**"Johnny,
you're a cream puff!"\\
"Banzai!"\\
"Daniel-san."\\
"Strike
puff!"
**"Banzai!"
**"Daniel-san."
**"Strike
first. Strike hard. No Mercy!"\\
"Mercy
Mercy!"[[note]]Cobra Kai's "Way of the Fist"[[/note]]
**"Mercy
is for the weak!"\\
And of course, "WaxOnWaxOff.
weak!"
**"WaxOnWaxOff.
"



** John Kreese came off pretty unsympathetic when he nearly choked his own student to death over [[SoreLoser losing a]] [[DisproportionateRetribution karate tournament]].
** Barnes was when he left Daniel and Jessica trapped at the bottom of a gorge with high tide coming in unless he signed up for the tournament, then broke the priceless bonsai tree even when Daniel did.

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** John Kreese came off pretty unsympathetic when he nearly choked his own student Johnny to death over [[SoreLoser losing a]] [[DisproportionateRetribution karate tournament]].
tournament]], and as ''Series/CobraKai'' suggests, mentally screwed over Johnny to have a pretty miserable life for the next 34 years.
** Mike Barnes was when he left Daniel and Jessica trapped at the bottom of a gorge with high tide coming in unless he signed up for the tournament, then broke the priceless bonsai tree even when Daniel did.



** And of course, many were saddened that Ali and Daniel broke up between the first and second film and then disappeared from the rest of the series. [[TheBusCameBack Thankfully mitigated by]] ''Cobra Kai''.

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** And of course, many were saddened that Ali and Daniel broke up between the first and second film and then disappeared from the rest of the series. [[TheBusCameBack Thankfully mitigated by]] ''Cobra Kai''.''Series/CobraKai''.
*VindicatedByHistory: While the third movie was criticized by many as a rehash of the first movie, ''Series/CobraKai'' has led people to look back on it in a different light given season 3 explored Kreese's friendship with Terry Silver in flashbacks, and [[spoiler:season 4 brought back Terry Silver in person]].

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** When you pay attention to the fine details of the story, Daniel instigates some of the conflicts such as the Halloween party incident (even if Johnny and his group went farther than necessary). This became famous after being discussed in a [=YouTube=] video essay. That said, Johnny was harassing Ali at multiple points and at several points even his own goons felt he would take things too far in his retributions of Daniel's own and admittedly less extreme aggravations. This fan theory seems to be the starting point around which ''Series/CobraKai'' was built. While Johnny has to admit that he acted poorly, the humiliation Daniel put him through had an impact on the rest of his life. Daniel himself had to admit some fault in the matter but the end message of the series is like Miyagi said, there are no bad students, only bad teachers.

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** When you pay attention to the fine details of the story, Daniel instigates some of the conflicts such as the Halloween party incident (even if Johnny and his group went farther than necessary). This became famous after being discussed in a [=YouTube=] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Gz_iTuRMM YouTube video essay.essay]]. That said, Johnny was harassing Ali at multiple points and at several points even his own goons felt he would take things too far in his retributions of Daniel's own and admittedly less extreme aggravations. This fan theory seems to be the starting point around which ''Series/CobraKai'' was built. While Johnny has to admit that he acted poorly, the humiliation Daniel put him through had an impact on the rest of his life. Daniel himself had to admit some fault in the matter but the end message of the series is like Miyagi said, there are no bad students, only bad teachers.



** "You're the best, around, nothing's ever gonna keep you down!"

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** "You're "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p44G0U4sLCE You're the best, best]], around, nothing's ever gonna keep you down!"



** Not to mention "Glory of Love" by [[Music/{{Chicago}} Peter Cetera]].

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** Not to mention "Glory "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQWdpWjXlk Glory of Love" Love]]" by [[Music/{{Chicago}} Peter Cetera]].


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**** In ''Series/CobraKai'': Daniel mentions that kata is the foundation of his karate. Goju-Ryu is based on two kata, ''Sanchin'' and ''Tensho'', formalizing the "Hard" and "Soft" aspects of Goju-Ryu respectively.
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Far from a unanimous opinion, Daniel/Ali and Daniel/Amanda are both very popular too.


* FanPreferredCouple: Ask any ''Karate Kid'' fan and they’ll tell you that Daniel and Kumiko should’ve stayed together. Many were seriously disappointed that they weren’t married in ''Series/CobraKai''.
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** And of course, many were saddened that Ali and Daniel broke up between the first and second film and then disappeared from the rest of the series.

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** And of course, many were saddened that Ali and Daniel broke up between the first and second film and then disappeared from the rest of the series. [[TheBusCameBack Thankfully mitigated by]] ''Cobra Kai''.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Searching on [=YouTube=] you'd be surprised to find fan edits that have Johnny Lawrence winning the Karate Tournament instead of Daniel.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The third movie, common complaints involving that Ralph started to show his age, and the fact that [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks it was a rehash of the first movie]].

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Searching on [=YouTube=] Website/YouTube you'd be surprised to find fan edits that have Johnny Lawrence winning the Karate Tournament instead of Daniel.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The third movie, common complaints involving that Ralph Creator/RalphMacchio started to show his age, and the fact that [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks it was a rehash of the first movie]].
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*** Cobra Kai seems instead to be (mostly) based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_Soo_Do Tang Soo Do]] (the style of the film's fight choreographer Pat. E. Johnson. Not strictly karate, but in the US in the eighties not many would know the difference) based on its heavy use of kicks, Terry Silver mentioning a Kim Sun-Yung (and stating he is Korean) as his and Kreese's teacher, and Johnny's use of commands in Korean when teaching in ''Series/CobraKai''.

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*** Cobra Kai seems instead to be (mostly) based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_Soo_Do Tang Soo Do]] (the style of the film's fight choreographer Pat. E. Johnson. Not strictly karate, but in the US in the eighties not many would know the difference) based on its heavy use of kicks, Terry Silver mentioning a Kim Sun-Yung (and stating he is Korean) as his and Kreese's teacher, and Johnny's use of commands in Korean when teaching in ''Series/CobraKai''. The third season of that series would feature flashbacks to Kreese's time in Vietnam, which would confirm that the Cobra Kai style is indeed derived from Tang Soo Do.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Ask any ''Karate Kid'' fan and they’ll tell you that Daniel and Kumiko should’ve stayed together. Many were seriously disappointed that they weren’t married in ''Series/CobraKai''.
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* NeutralGood: Mr. Miyagi is the utterly perfect CoolOldGuy example. He is an incredibly skilled martial artist, and a kind teacher, but he wouldn't harm a fly (figuratively speaking) [[MartialPacifist other than in the sake of defense of himself or another.]]

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