History YMMV / TheDefenders

** The announcement that Marvel would be launching a new Defenders book starring the characters from [[Series/TheDefenders2017 the TV show]]. Among fans of the Defenders comics, both the show and the comic it inspired have the same problem: [[InNameOnly They have nothing to do with any past iteration of the team]] other than [[NamesTheSame sharing a name]]. Those who don't mind the title being recycled argue that it isn't really a loss, since all of Marvel's prior attempts at a classic Defenders revival have failed miserably.

* HilariousInHindsight: At one point the team had Daimon Hellstrom, the Son of Satan, as a member at the same time as Devil-Slayer.

* CompleteMonster (Vol. 1 issues #79-83): [[EvilSorcerer Ytitnedion]] the [[FeatheredFiend Buzzard-King]] is the [[EvilOverlord cruel ruler of the Tunnelworld]], and the chief servant of the [[EldritchAbomination eldritch Unnameable]]. Standing out in contrast to the Unnameable's other servants for having deliberately forsaken his own identity to its control, Ytitnedion rules the Tunnelworld in an everlasting tyranny. Those who vaguely dissent are brought to the dungeons so Ytitnedion can experiment upon and torture them, keeping them in constant states of agony for his depraved amusement. The greatest example of Ytitnedion's sadism is the existence of the Winged Ones, an entire race of sapient beings that Ytitnedion created for the purpose of being tormented slaves, ornamented with useless, flightless wings that do nothing but remind the Winged Ones of the freedom they will never have.

* CompleteMonster (Vol. 1 issues #79-83): [[EvilSorcerer Ytitnedion]] the [[FeatheredFiend Buzzard-King]] is the [[EvilOverlord cruel ruler of the Tunnelworld]], and the chief servant of the [[EldritchAbomination eldritch Unnameable]]. Standing out in contrast to the Unnameable's other servants for having deliberately forsaken his own identity to its control, Ytitnedion rules the Tunnelworld in an everlasting tyranny. Those who vaguely dissent are brought to the dungeons so Ytitenedion can experiment upon and torture them, keeping them in constant states of agony for his depraved amusement. The greatest example of Ytitnedion's sadism is the existence of the Winged Ones, an entire race of sapient beings that Ytitnedion created for the purpose of being tormented slaves, ornamented with useless, flightless wings that do nothing but remind the Winged Ones of the freedom they will never have.

* {{Narm}}: From 2017 series, Danny Rand's dialogue with the Kingpin can come off as this to some considering Danny is cannonically in his 30's and comes of as he is trying to sound like a millenial.
-->'''Fisk:''' I never see you at this types of things.\\
'''Danny:''' Because I literally hate them. And I don't hate. I'm chi-focused like that.
** [[FridgeLogic Never mind that, by 2017, most millennials would be at least 28...]]

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Any scene involving Gerber's infamous Elf with a Gun.

** The [[Creator/KeithGiffen Giffen]][=/=][[Creator/JMDeMatteis DeMatteis]][=/=][[Creator/KevinMaguire Maguire]] revival in 2005 has acquired a mixed reputation. On the one hand, fans of that creative team bought it up, making it one of the few successful attempts to revive the franchise since the 1970s. On the other hand, the miniseries' comedic approached rubbed some longtime fans the wrong way, especially when it turned Umar - canonically one of the most powerful villainesses in the Marvel universe - into a sex-starved diva who blows off Dormammu's big plan to reshape the universe his image in order to have sex with the Hulk, which has rendered her [[NeverLiveItDown all but unusable to subsequent writers, because nobody sees her as a serious threat anymore.]]

* FanonDiscontinuity: All Elf With A Gun appearances that were not written by Steve Gerber, including the pay-off to the whole thing where [[spoiler:it was revealed that the Elf was killing off nexus people who were a threat to the stability of the timeline and that the elf was part of a larger group of elves that were trying to stave off an apocalypse that would occur if the founding four Defenders stayed together]].

** The announcement that Marvel would be launching a new Defenders book starring the characters from [[Series/TheDefenders2017 the TV show]]. Among fans of the Defenders comics, both the show and the comic it inspired have the same problem: [[InNameOnly They have nothing to do with any past iteration of the team]] other than [[NamesTheSame sharing a name]]. Those who don't mind the title being recycled argue that it isn't really a loss, since as mentioned in the DeaderThanDisco section, all of Marvel's prior attempts at a classic Defenders revival have failed miserably.
* DeaderThanDisco: Despite being one of Marvel's top books in the [[TheSeventies 1970s]], the title's disastrous "New Defenders" revamp, the resurgence of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} as a popular franchise, the rise of various spin-off books (ComicBook/NewMutants, Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}, West Coast Avengers), and Marvel moving the founding Defenders back to being solo heroes (and Namor being absorbed into the Avengers franchise), the book fell into a state of mockery as far as as a relic of a past period and not fit for modern comic readers. Attempts by Marvel to revive the book has largely failed and the only real successful revamp was a mini-series by the guys behind ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational which basically reduced the concept to an "odd couple" comedy. The Marvel NOW! version, ''Fearless Defenders'' lasted 12 issues.