YMMV / Spider-Man 3


The film

  • Accidental Innuendo: This brief exchange between Peter and Eddie:
    Peter: Eddie, the suit! You gotta take it off!
    Eddie: Oh you'd like that, wouldn't you...
  • Big Lipped Alligator Moment: The dance scene was perhaps the most infamous example of the decade.
  • Contested Sequel: One of the most definitive examples of the trope. It became the highest-grossing Spider-Man movie, but still earned lots of dissers, particularly among the fanbase. Critics considered it a blatant case of sequelitis, but its overall reception was mixed-to-positive. In general, most can agree it's the weakest installment of the trilogy, but the divide lies in whether or not it's because the quality is actually "bad."
  • Critical Dissonance: While it actually was divisive among critics, you'd be surprised that it has a 63% on Rotten Tomatoes, which means that most reviews were mixed to positive. However, based on the hate it gets from fans, you'd think its score would be much, much lower.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
  • Evil Is Sexy: Played with. While Peter under the symbiote's influence isn't evil, he Took a Level in Jerkass, and has ladies falling over him.
    • Then again, they are less than a handful, and it's suggested that it didn't happen until now because Peter was too intimidated to approach them, and his emo dance has women laughing at him. Well, except for the woman that smiles at him when he high-fives her.
  • Family-Unfriendly Aesop: One of the recurring criticisms of Raimi's trilogy was not capturing the humor of Peter as Spider-Man — favoring slapstick sight gags and pratfalls over witty one liners (strange considering the memorable quips of Raimi's Army of Darkness) — nor capturing the way he gained confidence from his experiences as Spider-Man in his daily life, which the comics highlighted for years (when not showing how much his life sucked). By the time Peter finally starts to come out of his shell and show some confidence, complete with quipping, in this film it is treated negatively (even before he gets the evil suit), which almost seems to say "Don't grow up, don't take pride in your accomplishments, always remain the shy, mumbling, all-American apple pie-eating boy next door." Of course the intended message, which has always been Spider-Man's message, is to not let your sense of superiority and empowerment go to your head, otherwise you'll take the good things in your life for granted.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: Peter/Ursula, for those who prefer a Third-Option Love Interest rather than MJ or Gwen.
  • Idiot Plot: Has its own page.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "It's so good."
    • Peter's emo dance.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Venom crosses it when he mortally wounds Harry Osborn in an attack meant for Peter, and clearly not giving a shit as he tosses him aside.
    • It could be argued that he already crossed the line of being sympathetic as Brock, when he prayed to God to kill Peter after Peter exposed Brock as a fraud.
  • Narm: Plenty of it.
    • Eddie Brock "praying" to God to kill Peter Parker for exposing him as a fraud comes off being more funny than creepy due to Grace's whining delivery. Possibly intentional, since Brock being a pathetic whiner unable to take responsibility for his own actions is sort of the point.
    • It's also difficult to take Harry's "evil plan" in the middle of the movie very seriously due to things like the end result of hurting Peter like this not being very clear, the fact that MJ could have put a stop to it if she just told Peter that Harry got his memory back, Harry's line of revenge (or the pie) tasting "so good!" and the strange face he makes at Peter from the window. What was that?
    • Peter's dance number has become legendary in its sheer narm, especially because of the Mood Whiplash afterwards.
    • Emo Peter has become one of the sole things people think about in regards to this movie. He's either a case of Never Live It Down or Ensemble Darkhorse depending on who's talking about him.
    • Also, Spidey landing in front of a giant, lit up American flag. Eyes were rolled.
  • One-Scene Wonder:
    • Before the film's release, Stan Lee considered his cameo in the movie to be his personal favorite up to that point.
    • This also applies to Venom, who appears in the movie for ten to fifteen minutes but does a lot in such a short time frame, not to mention that he has a memorable battle against Spider-Man.
  • The Scrappy:
    • A very weird case with Venom/Eddie Brock. Venom in himself is far from being a scrappy (quite the opposite actually), but his Eddie Brock alter-ego is disliked due to being a whiny, unscrupulous and generally unlikable person (in contrast to his much more sympathetic and physically impressive comic book counterpart) who really damages Venom's cool/threatening factor, especially when he constantly and needlessly shows his human face.
    • The annoying English newsreader who appears occasionally during the climax and could have easily been removed with no problems.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
    • With very little screentime and a questionable casting choice, the general consensus is that Venom was completely wasted when a whole separate movie could have been made around him.
      • In fact, this was originally the plan, for the movie to be released in two parts, with the second one being very Venom-focused, but the studio didn't allow it. It's Harsher in Hindsight now, since Hollywood is constantly releasing two-part movies these days.
    • Also Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy, who could have left more of an impression and had more of a relationship with Peter and MJ had it not been for all the other characters and their arcs fighting for screentime.
    • Not to mention Sandman, who had many of his character arc scenes deleted and his original, much more conclusive send-off changed to one that doesn't answer any questions as to what he's going to do now.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Spider-Man 3 had the unpleasant task of following up on the near-universally loved Spider-Man 2.
  • Vindicated by History: While still highly polarizing, this movie has been treated with more leniency after The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was released to even worse reviews and became a Franchise Killer for the already-contested reboot series.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Even several years on, the scene of the Sandman's 'birth' is still stellar to look at. A slow build, backed with an emotionally touching BGM, where the audience can see him gradually gain control of his powers and build his body back up.
  • WTH, Casting Agency?: General consensus is that Topher Grace wasn't a very good cast for Venom. Word of God says that Topher was cast because Raimi enjoyed his acting and thought he'd make a perfect Anti-Peter Parker. Basically, the casting was more about this version of Eddie Brock than it was about Venom — which didn't work out for them in terms of fan reaction, as most fans either don't really care about the Eddie Brock part of Venom, or think that the usual version of Eddie Brock is much more interesting, at least after his Character Development, and in the animated adaptations.

The video game

  • Complete Monster: In the PS3, 360, and PC version of the game, Luke Carlyle is a former industrialist whose business crumbled after the Daily Bugle uncovered his corrupt practices. Seeking revenge against the city that ruined him, Carlyle adopted the identity of "Carlyle the Mad Bomber" and led a series of terrorist attacks across Manhattan. After destroying his old building, Carlyle had his men plant explosives throughout the city, focusing mostly on locations that would cause civilian casualties. When Spider-Man foils his plans, Carlyle launches an attack on the Daily Bugle and kidnaps J. Jonah Jameson. Carlyle places an explosive collar around Jameson's neck and tosses him out of his helicopter in an attempt to kill him and Spider-Man. Carlyle ultimately escapes after Spider-Man takes out his helicopter, but not before setting off the explosives he had rigged in each of his henchmen's suits.
  • Contested Sequel: The games were no better than the film in this regard, considering that they were made to tie in with this film, just like the previous two. Unlike Spider-Man 2, the games had ridiculous amounts of Press X to Not Die to an infuriating degree, especially the unforgiving final boss fight.

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