YMMV / Spider-Man 2


The movie:

  • Accidental Innuendo: This exchange between Peter and Mary Jane:
    Peter: Picking up where we left off.
    Mary Jane: Where was that? We never got on. You can't get off if you don't get on, Peter.
  • Better on DVD: The film was improved for Spider-Man 2.1 with extended battles and improved character development which makes this an Even Better Expansion of an Even Better Sequel.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
    • Ursula, the shy daughter of Peter's landlord, who a substantial amount of fans would have preferred to see Peter get together with rather than MJ.
    • Mr. Aziz is well-remembered by being a meme despencing machine.
  • Even Better Sequel: While the first movie is considered excellent and very good, this is widely thought of as the better film, and is held up as among the best films in the superhero genre.
  • Genius Bonus: The play M.J. is in is The Importance of Being Earnest, a comedy about double identities. Sound familiar?
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Doc Ock's "I will not die a monster" moment at the end of the film can be a bit painful to watch given that his plan in Ends of the Earth is to cause genocide on a planetary scale and be remembered as history's greatest monster.
  • He Really Can Act: Tobey Maguire does an amazing job performing the film's dramatic scenes, such as when Peter reveals to Aunt May the truth about Uncle Ben's death.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • Jameson briefly implies that Doctor Strange exists in the movie's 'verse. He would later join the Marvel Cinematic Universe just one film after Spider-Man did.
    • Mary Jane gets engaged to J.J. Jameson's son, only to go back to Peter in the end. A few years later, we got Superman Returns, in which Lois Lane gets engaged to Perry White's nephew, much to the consternation of many fans.
    • Roshan Fegan, one of the two boys Peter talked to early in the film, would later portray Ty Blue, the older brother of Zendaya's character Rocky Blue in the Disney Channel series Shake It Up. Zendaya's would star in Spider-Man: Homecoming.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Whoa.....he stole that guy's PIZZA! Quickly became one of the site's most popular fads, with imaginative re-cuts of films and music videos with Donnell Rawlings, even including the two musical stings right after his line.
    • J. Jonah Jameson's laughing face. Many knows him as the Aww Yea Guy.
    • "Pizza time!", which has essentially become a Catch-Phrase for Spider-Man in the many Youtube Poop parodies of the films.
    • Mr. Aziz yelling, "GOOOoooooooooo!!!" note 
    • The many facial expressions of agony Peter makes while trying to stop the train, which are quite hilarious when viewed out of context.
    • The particularly over-the-top scream that Peter does when he sees a wall falling towards MJ has been a popular source for remixes.
    NYEEEAAA-AAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAUUHH!!!
  • Most Wonderful Sound: Jameson's laugh.
  • Narm:
    • The actors who were cast to play the extras for this movie hardly ever felt like they were natural human beings. The worst offender was when Doc Ock opens up the train car to take an exhausted Peter with him, and everyone who stood in his way gave a halfhearted "you're going to have to go through me" one-liner. There's also the screaming woman in the office when Doc Ock attacks, and she runs up to the camera to scream.
    • Doc Ock's tentacles having a built-in AI that speaks to him (words the audience cannot hear) would have been a truly creepy addition...had the film not have the tip of the tentacles open and close like mouths in a puppet-like fashion whenever they're speaking to him, which just looks goofy.
    • When Peter sees a big-ass wall about to collapse on MJ from behind, he lets out a wail that is not only really over the top, but comes with a close-up of his face as he makes it, and to make it even more Narmful his voice cracks more than once in the (rather long) Big "NO!". It's not even a no, that's the best part. It's some awful, ungodly high-pitched roaring noise that escaped from the fires of hell and out of Tobey Maguire's mouth. Take a look.
    • AVENGE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE! "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
    • Rosalie Octavius's death. The metal in the window she's facing is attracted to Dr Octavius's man-made sun, causing the glass to shatter in her direction. She just stands there and screams. If shown in real time, this wouldn't have qualified as Narm, but it was in slow motion, with a very drawn-out scream - she also looks like she's smiling. The extremely melodramatic music certainly doesn't help, either.
  • Older Than They Think: A lot of the complaints people voiced about The Amazing Spider-Man Series, greater focus on romance over superhero action, the Hero irritating audience because he is not fully committing to a decision with his girlfriend (i.e. going back-and-forth between It's Not You, It's My Enemies and They Do and lapsing and backsliding as and when the plot chooses) originated in Spider-Man 2. At the end of Spider-Man 1, Peter decided that he can't endanger Mary-Jane since his superhero work nearly got her killed and brought personal trauma to Harry even if MJ returned his affections, but in the sequel he keeps sending her mixed-messages which she calls him out on, similar to the much-criticized "but those are the best kind" gag at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man. Likewise the entire middle-act of the film has Peter out-of-costume and not being Spider-Man, which the film admittedly compensates with the epic Train Battle scene.
  • Retroactive Recognition:
  • Romantic Plot Tumor: The Spider-Man trilogy was accused of this overall, but the sequel is the one with greatest focus on the romance. Peter Parker spends the majority of film out-of-costume, and worried about his romance with MJ, most of the film's drama is not really about Dr. Octopus and his Tritium experiment but whether the two love-birds can get together or not. Doc Ock's bizarre personality shifts, going from mild-mannered scientist, to a cigar-chomping tentacled bank robber and the way it might or might not be inspired by his tentacles is not fully explained or dramatized.
  • Signature Scene: The train scene is the first thing that pops up when you remember about this movie. As an added bonus, scientists who have been working on replicating spider silks as a new clothing material like to refer to this particular scene as their source of inspiration.
  • Suspiciously Similar Song: The music used in Otto Octavius' ill-fated test run of the fusion reactor is virtually identical to the main theme from Hellbound: Hellraiser II. This was no coincidence — as the music was used as the scene's "temp music" during the film's production, and Sam Raimi ended up becoming so attached to the temp music that he ordered Danny Elfman to compose a track that sounded just like it. Elfman refused and bluntly told Raimi to just hire Christopher Young, the person that composed the Hellraiser II music in the first place, to score something identical for the scene. This incident, along with several others, is what caused Danny Elfman and Sam Raimi to have a falling out, and why Elfman did not return to compose the score for Spider-Man 3.
  • Tough Act to Follow:
    • No subsequently released Spider-Man film managed to come close to the movie's critical acclaim until Spider-Man: Homecoming came out 13 years later; even so, Homecoming merely has a similar Rotten Tomatoes approval percentage (92% vs. 93%) but a markedly lower average review rating (7.7/10 vs. 8.3/10). The game seems to be this for every subsquent Spider-Man game, especially when it comes to the web-slinging mechanics of later games.
    • This also applies to the superhero movie genre as a whole; while the first film is seen as a Genre Turning Point, the second is seen as a benchmark of what makes or breaks a superhero movie, thanks to its compelling antagonist and focus on the struggles of being a superhero.
  • True Art Is Angsty: This is the most angsty of the films, with focus more on Peter's struggle to maintain a working personal life with his superhero activities. It's also the most critically acclaimed of all the Spider-Man films, including the latter films. It's also the least successful, box office wise, of the original films. A common reason most cite for loving it is the angst, while a common reason most cite for disliking it is the same. Depending on your view, it's either well-written angst, or it's badly-handled angst. Either way, the angst is the topic that splits most on the film.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Mary Jane in this movie. Whereas she's a Nice Girl in the first film, and no more of a stupid jerk than the other characters in the third film, here she comes off really bad giving No Sympathy to Peter even was he has valid reasons for missing out on her play that aren't even related to his being Spider-Man (like a Jerkass usher blocking him from the theater when he arrived late even when he'd already bought a ticket). Then there's the matter of leaving John Jameson at the altar in order to be with Peter, leaving him a note rather than telling him straight-up. It perhaps wouldn't be as bad if the film itself didn't gloss over her flawed behavior, all while taking dumps on Peter for his own as if he's solely to blame for his and MJ's crumbling relationship. She fares somewhat better in the 2.1 cut and especially the novelization.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Doc Ock's tentacles, which were largely accomplished via practical effects, with each arm being controlled by a team of puppeteers.
    • The shot of Doc Ock's face as he falls into the water during his Heroic Sacrifice was completely CGI, yet looks completely real. It was hailed by the effects team as the most realistic CGI face in film at the time.
  • What an Idiot!: Really, Peter? You could test your powers anywhere safe by trying to climb a wall, but you go and jump of a building? Firstly, the fall could have been lethal, and secondly, what if somebody who knew May had seen it? Who knows what might have happened if somebody told May that Peter jumped from a roof in an apparent suicide attempt.
    • If you're already running late delivering pizzas and your job is on the line Peter, you probably shouldn't waste another two minutes trying to shove some brooms into a broom closet. And maybe you shouldn't have retrieved that pizza slice with your webbing.
  • The Woobie: Otto Octavius, aka Doc Ock, full stop. The man tries to revolutionize recyclable energy for a better world, but his initial experiment ends in the tragic loss of both his wife and his credibility. Despite this, he tries his hardest to try to recreate and improve his device, but it's ultimately put into an uncontrollable situation where Failure Is the Only Option. Oh, and his criminal activites? The mechanical arms attached to his back gaining sentience thanks to their advanced AI and the initial accident destroying their inhibitor. Probably the best example of Octavius at his Woobie-est would be his soliloquy at the docks:
    Otto Octavius: My Rosie's dead. My dream is dead. And these [his arms]... monstrous things should be at the bottom of the river... along with me.

The Game:

  • Anticlimax Boss: After he pulls off a convincing alien invasion hoax and a trippy "funhouse of doom", you'd expect Mysterio to have an imaginative boss fight, especially when the cutscene prior gives him three health bars. Instead, he just stands and boasts while doing nothing to harm you, and one punch does him in.
  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: The entirety of the Mysterio plotline is this, but perhaps it's at its biggest at the "Funhouse of Doom" section. Spider-Man goes through a bizarre funhouse with wobbly clowns, creepy holographic heads and a hall of mirrors where his reflections come to life and try and kill him... and it's all seemingly within an ordinary apartment building. And all this is never brought up again.
  • Demonic Spiders: The mooks using Powered Armor. They're strong, durable, and have weapons that can knock Spidey down for a few seconds. Even worse is that after you first fight them in the plot, they can show up when taking a civilian mission. The best of way of fighting them is to take advantage of their slow turn rate and punch them from behind, but multiple Powered Armor Mooks can make this a tough endeavour.
  • Ending Fatigue: The final encounter with Doctor Octopus makes up the third-to-last chapter of the game. The penultimate chapter consists of getting 50,000 hero points (while every other chapter only required less than 10,000), and the final chapter is just buying the final web swing upgrade.
  • Even Better Sequel: Compared to the previous movie adaptation game, Spider-Man 2 is an improvement on every level, being regarded as one of (if not the) best superhero games.
  • Memetic Mutation: "Ooohh noooo... Doooctooor Cooonnerrrss' claaassss..."
  • Most Annoying Sound: "Oh no, my balloon!"
    • Jameson. The guy voicing him is nowhere as enjoyable to listen as J.K Simmons.
  • No Problem with Licensed Games: The video game adaption is also held in high regard as one of the best superhero games of all time (many considered it THE best until the release of the Batman: Arkham Series five years later), and alongside The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction and the X-Men Legends games, revived the "Superhero Sandbox" genre after Superman 64 destroyed its credibility.
  • The Problem with Licensed Games: While the console versions are very well-regarded, the PC version is completely different, being much simpler and mediocre, having a totally different plot, and lacking the size and complexity that made the console versions so beloved.
  • Scrappy Mechanic:
    • People hate the kids who lose their balloons. The Ultimate Spider-Man game took a jab at it by having the first person that the player-controlled Venom kills in the game be an obnoxious little kid with a balloon. In the same vein, the children's crying and whining over their lost balloons for almost every player became the Most Annoying Sound.
    • The boat rescues to some. The idea isn't that bad, but they usually need extreme precision, which the controls don't always allow. There's obviously a time limit, and if you hit the water when holding a civilian, they instantly drown and you fail the mission. If you touch the water without a civilian, Spidey is sent back to the shore. What could possibly be more fun than having to jump back and forth between small buoys that constantly wiggle around with no room for error?
  • That One Level: "When Aliens Attack" can be rather annoying; at one point, you must web swing to the Statue of Liberty on UFOs, which can be rather finnicky due to their small size, and then you have to destroy eight orbs on the sides of a larger UFO. It's very easy to fall down, and maintaining the right altitude to reach the orbs is difficult. Mysterio's "Funhouse of Doom" in the same chapter is also difficult, and is a borderline Marathon Level thanks to the final area requiring you to break several mirrors and defeat durable clones that spawn from each one.
  • "Weird Al" Effect: Thanks to the wide number of memes revolving around it, the pizza delivery theme has become virtually synonymous with its source song, "Funiculi Funicula", to the point where most people (even on This Very Wiki) refer to the latter as "the Spider-Man 2 Pizza Theme".
  • Uncanny Valley: While Mysterio's helmet is usually obscuring, you can see what's underneath via two holograms in the Funhouse of Doom. It's... not exactly a pleasant sight.

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