YMMV / Shrek Forever After

  • Badass Decay: Subverted with AU!Puss In Boots. He starts as lazy, fat housecat, but regains his badassery when the time is right.
  • Contested Sequel: To some, it's a mild improvement on Shrek The Third but still not a very good movie. To others, it's a huge improvement with an interesting plot, tons of Continuity Porn and a great villain, and indicative of DreamWorks Animation's beard-growing. While to others its worse than Shrek The Third, completely abandoning the actual characters and a waste of time.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: The Pied Piper and Rumpelstiltskin.
    • "Do the roar."
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: In Russia, Shrek 4 is the second-highest grossing movie OF ALL TIME, losing only to the inevitable Avatar.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: AU!Puss being reduced to merely Fiona's pet - but after seeing his origins in the Darker and Edgier Puss in Boots, can we really consider that as the 'bad' dimension?
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Back in 2001, Myke Myers was one of many celebrities to voice a character in the book-on-tape "Once upon a Fairy Tale". The character he voiced? Rumpelstiltskin.
  • Inferred Holocaust: Since everyone in the alternate timeline was a completely separate entity to their real world counterparts (who consequently retain no memories of Shrek's day), the erasure of their timeline effectively killed them all.
  • Love to Hate: Rumpelstiltskin, for being more downright nasty and vicious than the previous villains while remaining Laughably Evil.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Rumpelstitlskin and the Pied Piper have their moments.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • DO THE ROAR!
    • I LOVE YOU DADDY!
    • The tagline of Shrek 4 was "THE WAIT IS OGRE!" As a result, mentioning Shrek on /co/ will often result in a Hurricane of Ogre Puns. The most notable example is this fanart getting captioned with "I'm sorry Shadow... but my time here is ogre."
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Seen in the flashback in the alternate-universe when Rumpelstiltskin is shown completing the deal with Fiona's parents to make "their problems go away", doing so by making them go away. That would have also happened if the messenger had arrived a few seconds later at the beginning of the movie, but we don't know that at the time. When we see the king and queen's looks of indescribable horror as they realize they're being erased from existence, Rumpelstiltskin crosses the line from just a simple trickster who wanted to rule the kingdom into utterly, irredeemably evil.
    • An unintentional example: some fans found that the writers went too far with Shrek being so tired of family life he tells Fiona he wishes he never saved her from that tower. While it was meant to be a shocking, My God, What Have I Done? statement in-universe, some fans still found it to be a tad too mean-spirited, even for Shrek.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Watching the king and queen dissolve into nonexistence is unsettling.
    • Or Rumplestiltkin's falling into an eternal void...
    • Hell, Rumplestiltkin himself!
  • Sequelitis: Fans are divided between whether Forever After is just as bad as Third or better. Reception has been much warmer for Forever After than for Third, however.
  • So Okay, It's Average: The general consensus from fans is that while it's a watchable movie that improves on Shrek The Third, it doesn't have enough of the magic or humor of the first two movies to be worthwhile.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: A charge thrown by some at the fourth film, which presents a Bad Future wherein Shrek was never born and never met his true love Fiona. It would have been interesting if someone else was Fiona's true love and seeing Shrek deal with that, but Fiona loves Shrek regardless.
    • We also never find out what happened to Lord Farquaad in the alternate timeline, since he likely never died.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Zigzagged with Shrek Forever After. As it came on the heels of the poorly-received Shrek the Third, it wasn't hard for it to improve on its predecessor. However, it also only came a few months after How to Train Your Dragon, DreamWorks' best-reviewed movie to date, and also had the first two Shrek movies to live up to.
  • Unintentionally Sympathetic: While Shrek storming out of his own children's birthday party (after smashing their cake) isn't exactly a good thing, he was going through tons of stress at the time, with everyone demanding things of him, the pigs having ate the first cake, and nobody letting him have a moment of rest. With these factors in mind, Shrek losing his temper is a lot more justified.
  • What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: The film gets pretty dark sometimes, people. From the malicious Rumpelstiltskin who erased Fiona's parents from existence and murders people (even his own followers) for his own amusement, to the Crapsack World that AU!Far Far Away becomes, there are some dark themes explored in this film.
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