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* FriendlyFandoms: Near ''instantaneously'' after its first few days of release, it formed a close bond with the ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' fandom due to being a strange web story revolving around ColorCodedCharacters. As seen above, Juice is also a dead ringer for Dave Strider.

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* FriendlyFandoms: Near ''instantaneously'' after its first few days of release, it formed a close bond with the ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' fandom due to being a strange web story revolving around ColorCodedCharacters. As seen above, Juice is also a dead ringer for Dave Strider.
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Moving to Trivia


* AuthorsSavingThrow: One of the complaints about ''17776'' was that, because of the constrained amount of time Jon gave himself to publish it, not a lot of details were fleshed out fully (to the point where one of the last things JUICE does in the story is rush through a list of points they could not get through before Nine goes back to sleep). With ''20020'', Jon admitted on Twitter that the story was too long to be able to be covered in 12 parts... [[https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1316214075442032641 in the same tweet]] that announced ''20021'', the third installment of ''17776'' and what is effectively the direct sequel to ''20020'', in order to tell the story in full.
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** As you can imagine for such an ... esoteric piece, there were a lot of Jon's normal fans who weren't impressed at all.

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* MisaimedFandom: Beneath the surface, the story is a satire on sports culture, the lack of safety in real-world football and how players have gotten hurt due to it, and on mankind's pursuit of play once work becomes unnecessary [[spoiler: or undesired]]. However, due to many people being drawn in for the narrative and not the football aspect, many tend to read for the satellites and their antics and not the satire. Some people have gone as far as to ask ''why'' football is at the center of the story and why the world isn't being built more.

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* MisaimedFandom: Beneath the surface, the story is a MisaimedFandom:
** ''17776'' was hit with it pretty hard when it first came out. Like much of Bois' work it uses sports as
satire on sports culture, to examine the lack of safety in real-world football and how players have gotten hurt due to it, the chronic flaws of American culture, and on mankind's pursuit of play once work becomes unnecessary [[spoiler: or undesired]]. However, due to many people being drawn in for the narrative presentation and not the football aspect, many tend to comedy, it was read mostly for the satellites and their antics and not the satire. Some people have gone as went so far as to ask ''why'' football is at the center of the story and why the world isn't being built more.more.
** ''20020'' in part is a response to the MisaimedFandom ''17776'' developed that bridges the gap between what fans took from it and the more focused satire, being a far more meandering story, often filled with diversions with exploring the world and history, with the Bowl Game used as a persistent touchstone more than the primary narrative thread.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Football has only gotten so far because nanobots and immortality fixed what was holding it back. Human durability and the lack of safety in modern-day football is a serious and life-threatening problem.
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* CrazyAwesome: One football player runs into a tornado ''on purpose.'' Justified in that nobody can die. Also, she seems pretty calm and relaxed in person.

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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyIsCool: One football player runs into a tornado ''on purpose.'' Justified in that nobody can die. Also, she seems pretty calm and relaxed in person.
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** Chapter 20 caused a minor one - Nine had never been referred to by any gender-specific pronoun before then, but Ten calls Nine "she" for the first time in that chapter... and then the author edited it the next day to remove any references to Nine using gendered pronouns. Is it confirmation of Nine's gender, or is it a sign that Ten doesn't quite respect Nine (since she also refers to herself as Nine's ''big'' sister then, contradicting her earlier declaration that she was Nine's ''little'' sister)? Was is simply a slip of the tongue, so to speak, or a mistake by the author?

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** Chapter 20 caused a minor one - Nine had never been referred to by any gender-specific pronoun before then, but Ten calls Nine "she" for the first time in that chapter... and then the author edited it the next day to remove any references to Nine using gendered pronouns. Is it confirmation of Nine's gender, or is it a sign that Ten doesn't quite respect Nine (since she also refers to herself as Nine's ''big'' sister then, contradicting her earlier declaration that she was Nine's ''little'' sister)? Was is it simply a slip of the tongue, so to speak, or a mistake by the author?



* MisaimedFandom: Beneath the surface, the story is a satire on sports culture, the lack of safety in real world football and how players have gotten hurt due to it, and on mankind's pursuit of play once work becomes unnecessary [[spoiler: or undesired]]. However, due to many people being drawn in for the narrative and not the football aspect, many tend to read for the satellites and their antics and not the satire. Some people have gone as far as to ask ''why'' football is at the center of the story and why the world isn't being built more.

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* MisaimedFandom: Beneath the surface, the story is a satire on sports culture, the lack of safety in real world real-world football and how players have gotten hurt due to it, and on mankind's pursuit of play once work becomes unnecessary [[spoiler: or undesired]]. However, due to many people being drawn in for the narrative and not the football aspect, many tend to read for the satellites and their antics and not the satire. Some people have gone as far as to ask ''why'' football is at the center of the story and why the world isn't being built more.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: One of the complaints about ''17776'' was that, because of the constrained amount of time Jon gave himself to publish it, not a lot of details were fleshed out fully (to the point where one of the last things JUICE does in the story is rush through a list of points they could not get through before Nine goes back to sleep). With ''20020'', Jon admitted on Twitter that the story was too long to be able to be covered in 12 parts... [[https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1316214075442032641 in the same tweet]] that announced ''20021'', the third installment of ''17776'' and what is effectively the direct sequel to ''20021'', in order to tell the story in full.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: One of the complaints about ''17776'' was that, because of the constrained amount of time Jon gave himself to publish it, not a lot of details were fleshed out fully (to the point where one of the last things JUICE does in the story is rush through a list of points they could not get through before Nine goes back to sleep). With ''20020'', Jon admitted on Twitter that the story was too long to be able to be covered in 12 parts... [[https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1316214075442032641 in the same tweet]] that announced ''20021'', the third installment of ''17776'' and what is effectively the direct sequel to ''20021'', ''20020'', in order to tell the story in full.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: One of the complaints about ''17776'' was that, because of the constrained amount of time Jon gave himself to publish it, not a lot of details were fleshed out fully (to the point where one of the last things JUICE does in the story is rush through a list of points they could not get through before Nine goes back to sleep). With ''20020'', Jon admitted on Twitter that the story was too long to be able to be covered in 12 parts... [[https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1316214075442032641 in the same tweet]] that announced ''20021'', the third installment of ''17776'' and what is effectively the direct sequel to ''20021'', in order to tell the story in full.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: The Locomotive Lateral in chapter 7 of ''20020''. Armed with a train, diesel, and knowledge of history and the surrounding areas, Manny and Nick use the train to transport 9 stolen footballs across a field while the other teams have no idea what's going on.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: The Locomotive Lateral in chapter 7 of ''20020''. Using a train, diesel, and knowledge of history and the surrounding areas, Manny and Nick use a train to transport 9 stolen footballs across a field while the other teams have no idea what's going on.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: The Locomotive Lateral in chapter 7 of ''20020''. Using Armed with a train, diesel, and knowledge of history and the surrounding areas, Manny and Nick use a the train to transport 9 stolen footballs across a field while the other teams have no idea what's going on.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: The Locomotive Lateral in chapter 7 of ''20020''. Using a train, diesel, and knowledge of history and the surrounding areas, Manny and Nick use a train to transport 9 stolen footballs across a field while the other teams have no idea what's going on.
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moving to own page


* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** The sequel starts with a news article mentioning a man who received medical attention and comfort from neighbors after realizing he was bored. While silly, it's also incredibly sweet to see everyone coming together over something so small.
** Juice records the sunrise on Earth for Ten to see, since she's 4 trillion miles away.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist and co-leader Walter Becker would die months after the story's publication.

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HarsherInHindsight: One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist and co-leader Walter Becker would die months after the story's publication.publication.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** The sequel starts with a news article mentioning a man who received medical attention and comfort from neighbors after realizing he was bored. While silly, it's also incredibly sweet to see everyone coming together over something so small.



* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The sequel starts with a news article mentioning a man who received medical attention and comfort from neighbors after realizing he was bored. While silly, it's also incredibly sweet to see everyone coming together over something so small.

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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist and co-leader Walter Becker would die months after the story's publication.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist and co-leader Walter Becker would die months after the story's publication.publication.
** Juice records the sunrise on Earth for Ten to see, since she's 4 trillion miles away.
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The sequel starts with a news article mentioning a man who received medical attention and comfort from neighbors after realizing he was bored. While silly, it's also incredibly sweet to see everyone coming together over something so small.
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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist Walter Becker would [[http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/walter-becker-steely-dan-guitarist-dies-at-67/ar-AArb7UR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp die months after the story's publication.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist and co-leader Walter Becker would [[http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/walter-becker-steely-dan-guitarist-dies-at-67/ar-AArb7UR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp die months after the story's publication.]]
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Redirect to a Just For Fun. Just For Fun isn't YMMV.


* CounterpartComparison: Juice gets a lot of comparisons to [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} Dave Strider]], since they're both [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]], nostalgic, street-smart types who type in [[AllLowercaseLetters all lowercase]] and have a love for SurrealHumor.
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I don't know if that's really a relevant detail.


*** In a [[https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/24/16003968/17776-questions-and-answers follow-up Q&A article]] Bois stated that the pronoun was a mistake, that Nine was presently non-binary but could change as Nine slowly discovers their humanity, and that he wanted to explicitly establish a human character as non-binary.

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*** In a [[https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/24/16003968/17776-questions-and-answers follow-up Q&A article]] Bois stated that the pronoun was a mistake, that Nine was presently non-binary but could change as Nine slowly discovers their humanity, and that he wanted to explicitly establish a human character as non-binary. humanity.
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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the first things Nine asks after being able to use quantum communication was if Music/SteelyDan was still together. The band's guitarist Walter Becker would [[http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/walter-becker-steely-dan-guitarist-dies-at-67/ar-AArb7UR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp die months after the story's publication.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The fact that the probes gained sentience through radio waves sent by humans is this when [[http://abc13.com/science/nasa-wants-to-beam-your-message-into-space/2278825/ NASA actually did launch a program to have someone's message be broadcasted to the voyager probe.]]

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The fact that the probes gained sentience through radio waves sent by humans is this when [[http://abc13.com/science/nasa-wants-to-beam-your-message-into-space/2278825/ NASA actually did launch a program to have someone's message be broadcasted to the voyager probe.]]]]
** The fact that Juice uses yellow text, is the wackier one of their group, and has an unnatural fascination with sports brings to mind [[Anime/OsomatsuSan a certain baseball-loving Matsuno brother]]. (The fact that Jyushimatsu also has "Juicy" as a nickname among his fans helps.)
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* HilariousInHindsight: The fact that the probes gained sentience through radio waves sent by humans is this when [[http://abc13.com/science/nasa-wants-to-beam-your-message-into-space/2278825/ NASA actually did launch a program to have someone's message be broadcasted to the voyager probe.]]
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* ShipTease: During the first chapter, Ten tells Nine numerous times that she loves them, both as a meeans to keep them sane and as a promise that she's going to help them, which leads some readers to think that there is going to be some kind of romance between the two. This gets [[ShipSinking subverted]] almost immediately at the end of the chapter, however, when Ten reveals she's Nine "little sister", although considering the main characters ''are'' space probes and there can't be an actual blood relationship between them, [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]] may not come out as [[{{Squick}} squicky]] as it does with other characters.
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*** In a [[https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/24/16003968/17776-questions-and-answers follow-up Q&A article]] Bois stated that the pronoun was a mistake, that Nine was presently non-binary but could change as Nine slowly discovers their humanity, and that he wanted to explicitly establish a human character as non-binary.
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* ShipTease: During the first chapter, Ten tells Nine numerous times that she loves them, both as a meeans to keep them sane and as a promise that she's going to help them, which leads some readers to think that there is going to be some kind of romance between the two. This gets [[ShipSinking subverted]] almost immediately at the end of the chapter, however, when Ten reveals she's Nine "little sister", although considering the main characters ''are'' space probes and there can't be an actual blood relationship between them, [[IncestYayShipping shipping them]] may not come out as [[{{Squick}} squicky]] as it does with other characters.

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* MisaimedFandom: Beneath the surface, the story is a satire on sports culture, the lack of safety in real world football and how players have gotten hurt due to it, and on mankind's pursuit of play once work becomes unnecessary [[spoiler: or undesired]]. However, due to many people being drawn in for the narrative and not the football aspect, many tend to read for the satellites and their antics and not the satire.

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* MisaimedFandom: Beneath the surface, the story is a satire on sports culture, the lack of safety in real world football and how players have gotten hurt due to it, and on mankind's pursuit of play once work becomes unnecessary [[spoiler: or undesired]]. However, due to many people being drawn in for the narrative and not the football aspect, many tend to read for the satellites and their antics and not the satire. Some people have gone as far as to ask ''why'' football is at the center of the story and why the world isn't being built more.

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