History YMMV / SILK

* GeniusBonus: In the third episode of the third season, Martha throws in a cute in-joke to her reader in an insanely high stakes murder trial to "don't *ever* do what I'm about to do." Barristers know what that "thing" is... ''re-examine when you don't know what the answer is.'' You might get away with that in cross-examination if the answer is one you can live with, but it's pretty much a suicide run for your case in re-examination if you're not very careful. Not a technique for the newbies.

!![[Series/{{Silk}} The TV series]]

* GeniusBonus: In the third episode of the third season, Martha throws in a cute in-joke to her reader in an insanely high stakes murder trial to "don't *ever* do what I'm about to do." Barristers know what that "thing" is... ''re-examine when you don't know what the answer is.'' You might get away with that in cross-examination if the answer is one you can live with, but it's pretty much a suicide run for your case in re-examination if you're not very careful. Not a technique for the newbies.

!![[Series/{{Silk}} The ComicBook]]
* SleeperHit: ''ComicBook/{{Silk}}'' launched right before Marvel were planning the above-mentioned ''All New'' revamp, starring a controversial Spider-Man character who was considered TheScrappy and a CreatorsPet ''at best''. Despite a lukewarm amount of hype before release, the series ended up being surprisingly really good, succeeding in allowing Silk to be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap and connecting to audiences thanks to the titular character's battle with anxiety. It became a modest seller (by no means one of their highest-selling books, but enough that it got to stay on as part of the All-New revamp, and maintained decent sales all throughout its run), and by the time it ended, was considered one of Marvel's best Spider-Man-related books being released at the time.
* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: When ''Comicbook/{{Silk}}'' first launched, MSNBC ran a report that cited the character as Marvel's first Asian-American superhero. Keith Chow corrected them by pointing out that characters like [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] predated Silk, and that DC's [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]] was technically the first Asian-American superhero to have her own series. And if we expand the umbrella to cover Asian superheroes rather than specifically Asian-American ones, Marvel's Comicbook/ShangChi predates both Silk and Cassandra Cain by a great deal, having debuted in 1973 before receiving his own solo series the following year.

* MyRealDaddy: The ''Spider-Man'' character ''ComicBook/{{Silk}}'' was created by Dan Slott and was very much hated by fans for numerous reasons: from the UnfortunateImplications that arise from her pheromone situation with Peter, to her effectively being the cause of several deaths in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', to her existence being a {{retcon}} of Peter's origin story. It was Robbie Thompson's solo run of the character that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her from the scrappy heap]] by reinventing her as being a bit of a {{Womanchild}} who works as TheMole for S.H.I.E.L.D.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Dan Slott also introduced a scrappy of his own, ComicBook/{{Silk}}, during his Spider-Man run. Silk got a lot of flak for basically having all of Spidey's powers but better, and instantly becoming Spidey's new love interest thanks to said powers causing FantasticArousal. But as soon as she was moved to her own comic under writer Robbie Thompson and artist Stacey Lee, she became one of Marvel's most-liked superheroines. Largely they toned down her 'superiority' to Spider-Man (she's the fastest of the Spiders, but she's notably not as strong and her spider-sense is fickle, making her the FragileSpeedster of the bunch), and her Fantastic Arousal powers were completely retconned out, to the point she went from being Peter's love interest to being more LikeBrotherAndSister, and her personality was completely overhauled, turning her into an Adorkable rookie with huge anxiety issues, making her something of Marvel's counterpart to DC's [[ComicBook/GreenLanterns Jessica Cruz]].

* GeniusBonus: In the third episode of the third season, Martha throws in a cute in-joke to her reader in an insanely high stakes murder trial to "don't *ever* do what I'm about to do." Barristers know what that "thing" is... ''re-examine when you don't know what the answer is.'' You might get away with that in cross-examination if the answer is one you can live with, but it's pretty much a suicide run for your case in re-examination if you're not very careful. Not a technique for the newbies.

* GeniusBonus: In the third episode of the third season, Martha throws in a cute in-joke to her reader in an insanely high stakes murder trial to "don't *ever* do what I'm about to do." Barristers know what that "thing" is... ''re-examine when you don't know what the answer is.'' You might get away with that in cross-examination if the answer is one you can live with, but it's pretty much a suicide run for your case in re-examination if you're not very careful. Not a technique for the newbies.

!![[ComicBook/{{Silk}} The Comic Book]]
* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: The ''Silk'' solo title seemed to be doomed from the start, given that she was a [[TheScrappy widely hated]] D-lister with the reins of the writing being handed over to a writer who was mainly in the TV business and only had a few issues of one obscure indie comic to his name. The result was that ''Silk'' ended up being one of the better Marvel comics through their '10s DorkAge, thanks to well-written storylines and improved characterization. It also [[BreakthroughHit launched Thompson's career]] as one of Marvel's more prominent writers.
* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Silk's new costume is considered a vast upgrade from her original one, which was heavily criticized for being impractical FetishRetardant.
** Black Cat getting characterization beyond crazy evil lady has filled readers with hope that she will move back to her usually more gray morality, and if not that at least giving her a better reason to be completely evil.
*** Issue 9 explains that before her run in with Doc Ock possessed Spider-Man Cat had been planning on retiring, but her arrest caused her to lose her nest egg and all her heroing didn't count for anything.
** Other characters still remember Cindy's more [[LeeroyJenkins reckless behavior]] during ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'', and Cindy is still trying hard to win over their approval.
* CreatorsPet: Hoo boy, she got hit HARD with this under Dan Slott's pen. From the very beginning, she was relentlessly pushed as Peter's perfect love interest despite having even ''less'' of a genuine relationship with him than the dreaded [[TheScrappy Carlie Cooper]] had, being ham-fistedly shoved into Peter's backstory during the Original Sin event and hooked up with him [[StrangledByTheRedString almost immediately]] thanks to having "[[FantasticArousal pheromone abilities]]" that many fans unfavorably regarded (and referred to) as [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale date rape powers]]. It only got worse from there when she was bitten by the exact same spider as Peter and instantaneously became better than him both in terms of powers and her fighting skill despite lacking any of his training, experience, or education. Since then she has unceasingly been [[CharacterShilling shilled]] by the rest of the cast, with Slott going so far as to [[DerailingLoveInterests ruin Peter's relationships with other women]] by having Mary Jane and Carlie abandon Peter and New York and Black Cat [[spoiler: inexplicably become a psychopathic terrorist]] to make Cindy look better, all with insanely flimsy motivations for doing so. It didn't help that she was shoehorned into ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and [[SpotlightStealingSquad swallowed the plot]] from much more iconic and well-liked characters, despite being a brand-new character in a series that was ''supposed'' to be all about Spider-Man's history. The ultimate example had to be Dan Slott repeatedly insisting that her presence ''alone'' was responsible for boosting sales of the book and claiming to have [[BlatantLies massive folders of fan mail praising her]] but refusing to ever show any proof of their existence. It wasn't until Robbie Thompson took over that fan appreciation [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap caught up with creator appreciation.]]
* GrowingTheBeard: Under Robbie Thompson's helm, Silk became one of the good Marvel comics due to its favorable portrayal of Cindy Moon as naive but good-natured hero with ParentalAbandonment.
* HoYay: Silk's {{fangirl}}ing around [[VideoGame/MarvelFutureFight Luna Snow]] can make it seem like Silk has a crush on her.
* MyRealDaddy: Robbie Thompson is considered as the true writer for Silk, which her characterization and origins was fully developed.
* NeverLiveItDown: Despite having been vastly improved under the writing of Robbie Thompson, Silk may ''never'' get to live down the awful first impression she left on readers during Slott's introduction of her.
** One common reason people give for disliking her is the time she threatened to rape Peter, citing that her 616 self is forever marred in their eyes because of this.
* OlderThanTheyThink: With "They" being Marvel themselves! They were very quick to bill her as the first female Asian superheroine with her own series, which not only isn’t true within the superhero genre (Cassandra Cain predates her by over a decade) but also Marvel themselves, as both Psylocke[[note]]who is a strange case given that she wasn't born Asian[[/note]] and Jubilee also predate her by over a decade.[[note]]Even for Asian solo series in general there’s Shang-Chi and Iron Fist (Danny Rand is oft-forgotten to be half-Asian).[[/note]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Her introduction rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, from the way she was introduced via {{Retcon}} (it was originally stated flat out that the spider that bit Peter died immediately after it did so), her sudden ability to use certain powers even better than Peter, and Peter's MentorShip relationship with her (which later blossomed into an actual romance) at the expense of other preferred love interests. But her solo, which fleshed out her personality and gave her own plots, endeared her to a large number of readers.
* TheScrappy: Between being a huge case of RememberTheNewGuy and her causing the deaths of several popular characters during ''Spider Verse'' has made Silk a fairly unpopular character. That being said, Robbie Thompson has been able to [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap salvage her]] by writing the character much better than Slott did, to the point where she's gained a sizable fanbase and Thompson is seen as the [[MyRealDaddy "real" creator]].
* UnfortunateImplications: The main reason why Silk was so hated at first prior to her ongoing. [[https://storify.com/AliasJones/here-we-go-again As noted here]], the 'sex pheromones' Peter and Cindy give off to one-another that compels them to mate essentially lacks consent since neither can 'say no'. Making matters worse, Cindy didn't mind this but Peter was extremely uncomfortable with it and tried to stop himself repeatedly, his narration making it clear that he ''doesn't want to have sex with her'', making it clear he didn't have any consent. Adding to this, Cindy would then try to use this as a means to get Peter to leave the city by threatening to break into his apartment so he'd be forced to sleep with her thanks to the pheromones; in other words, ''threatening to rape him unless he left''. Naturally, nobody ever suggests that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale Cindy is wrong for doing this.]]
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** One common reason people give for disliking her is the time she threatened to rape Peter, sighting that her 616 self is forever marred in their eyes because of this.

* OlderThanTheyThink: With "They" being Marvel themselves! They were very quick to bill her as the first Asian superheroine with her own series, which not only ins't true within the superhero genre (Cassandra Cain predates her by over a decade) but also Marvel themselves, as both Psylocke[[note]]who is a strange case given that she wasn't born Asian[[/note]] and Jubilee also predate her by over a decade.

* HoYay: ''ComicBook/AgentsOfAtlas'' readers have taken Silk's {{fangirl}}ing around [[VideoGame/MarvelFutureFight Luna Snow]] as a sign that Silk has a crush on her.

* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: The ''Silk'' solo title seemed to be doomed from the start, given that she was a [[TheScrappy widely hated]] D-lister with the reins of the writing being handed over to a writer who was mainly in the TV business and only had a few issues of one obscure indie comic to his name. The result was that ''Silk'' ended up being one of the better Marvel comics through their '10s DorkAge, thanks to well-written storylines and improved characterization. It also [[BreakthroughHit launched Thompson's career]] as one of Marvel's most prominent writers.

* OlderThanTheyThink: With "They" being Marvel themselves! They were very quick to bill her as the first Asian superheroine with her own series, which not only ins't true within the superhero genre (Cassandra Cain predates her by over a decade) but also Marvel themselves, as both Psylocke[[note]]who is a strange case given that she wasn't born Asian[/note] and Jubilee also predate her by over a decade.

* MyRealDaddy: Robbie Thompson is considered as true writer for Silk, which her characterization and origins was fully developed.
* NeverLiveItDown: Despite having been vastly improve under the writing of Robbie Thompson, Silk may ''never'' get to live down the awful first impression she left on readers during Slott's introduction of her.

* UnfortunateImplications: The main reason why Silk was so hated at first prior to her ongoing. [[https://storify.com/AliasJones/here-we-go-again As noted here]], the 'sex pheromones' Peter and Cindy give off to one-another that compels them to mate essentially lacks consent since neither can 'say no'. Making matters worse, Cindy didn't mind this but Peter was extremely uncomfortable with it and tried to stop himself repeatedly, his narration making it clear that he ''doesn't want to have sex with her'', making it clear he didn't have any consent. Adding to this, Cindy would then try to use this as a means to get Peter to leave the city by threatening to break into his apartment so he'd be forced to sleep with her thanks to the pheromones; in other words, ''threatening to rape him unless he left''.

* TheScrappy: Between being a huge case of RememberTheNewGuy and her causing the deaths of several popular characters during ''Spider Verse'' has made Silk a fairly unpopular character.

*** Issue 9 explains that before her run in with Doc Ock possessed Spider-man Cat had been planning on retiring, but her arrest caused her to lose her nest egg and all her heroing didn't count for anything.

* CriticalResearchFailure: Cindy constantly refers to Dragonclaw as "Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Guy" because she says his name "sounds like a Pokémon". Actually, "Dragon Claw" is the name of a Pokémon ''attack'', so this is basically like referring to Pikachu as "Thunderbolt".

** Possible FridgeBrilliance. She has been trapped in storage for a long while and so while she did play pokemon beforehand, her knowledge is now outdated (though Dragon Claw was introduced in the 3rd Gen, meaning she might've only played up to Gen 2.]]

*** Issue 9 explains that before her run in with Doc Oct possessed Spider-man Cat had been planning on retiring, but her arrest caused her to lose her nest egg and all her heroing didn't count for anything.

* CriticalResearchFailure: Cindy constantly refers to Dragonclaw as "Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Guy" because she says his name "sounds like a Pokémon". Actually, "Dragon Claw" is the name of a Pokémon ''attack'', so this is basically like referring to Pikachu as "Thunderbolt".

* MyRealDaddy: Robbie Thompson is considered as true writer for Silk, which her characterization and origins was fully developed. In addition, her series under his penmanship is considered as one of the finest comic series.

* TheScrappy: Between being a huge case of RememberTheNewGuy and her causing the deaths of several popular characters during ''Spider Verse'' has made Silk a fairly unpopular character. It didn't help that her relationship with Peter was laden with UnfortunateImplications.

* TheScrappy: Between being a huge case of RememberTheNewGuy and her causing the deaths of several popular characters during ''Spider Verse'' has made Silk a fairly unpopular character.