YMMV / Randy Orton

  • Arc Fatigue: The never ending Cena/Orton feud. While the matches are generally good, there is a significanf sentiment held by the fanbase that Cena and Orton don't really have chemistry as rivals outside of a match. With Cena, many feel that his true Arch-Enemy and Foil was CM Punk and/or, to a lesser extent, Edge. With Orton, the belief is that the closest he ever had to a real arch-rival is Christian — a rivalry that never came to full fruition after the well-recieved initial feud in 2011 thanks to Christian being at the tail end of his career by that point.
  • Badass Decay: Not only has he not been pushed as hard in 2012-2013 as he has in previous years, but he just doesn't come off as nearly intimidating as he used to personality-wise. It becomes readily apparent when he tries to get former arch-rivals Sheamus and The Big Show to team up with him against The Shield. The bizarreness of this is actually lampshaded at one point by The Miz, who essentially says that when Randy Orton of all people is the voice of reason in a situation, that situation's extremely screwed up.
    • Might be on the rebound now that he has turned heel by conspiring with Triple H to screw Daniel Bryan out of his title win at Summerslam '13 with the MITB briefcase.
    • Definitely on the rebound. He's committed numerous crazed assaults on other WWE Superstars thus far in this role. The only thing that's missing is his Patented Punt.
    • As of 2016, this has been safely averted. His crowning achievement was sneaking into Raw after the brand split and RKOing Brock Lesnar, of all people, outta nowhere.
  • Base Breaker: While casual fans tend to love him, Smarks are ridiculously broken when it comes to their attitude about him on many counts:
    • Is Orton a legitimate talent worthy of his accolades, or another company-manufactured Creator's Pet who gets by on his connection with Triple H and his decent pedigree? (Insert obligatory joke here.)
    • Does Orton wrestle a simplistic style because he's incapable of doing otherwise, or does he have a method to his madness and know exactly what he's doing?
    • Which Randy Orton incarnation was/is more interesting/effective - the sadistic, vicious Viper or the cocky, suave Legend Killer?
    • As of late 2013/early 2014, a third contender has been added: craven, paranoid, overmatched (would-be) Champion.
    • To put this in perspective, what you think of a guy like John Cena divides rather neatly along age (or, rather, whether you got into wrestling pre- or post-2004 or so) and how aware one is of in-ring technical nuance and backstage booking practices. With Orton it's a bit more complicated. There are a contingent of smarks that really like Orton despite his having a lot of the same attributes that prompt their vitriol for John Cena. He was a "handpicked golden boy" from youth, is almost perpetually in the main event scene, is thought to have backstage powers, and has been running a similar character and moveset with very little variation for years. He's also not the greatest talker (although people that think as much of Cena usually aren't giving the devil his due), and - unlike Cena - has or at least had a reputation out of character for being a bit of a dick. Some of the reasons why Orton's not given the Cena treatment to such a huge degree may include:
      • His win/loss record isn't nearly as unbalanced as Cena's is.
      • His anti-hero face character is a lot more of a vogue nowadays whilst Cena's straight hero gimmick is a dated concept that a more cynical type can't get behind. Think Golden Age Superman vs... well, really most modern portrayals of superheroes.
      • He's thought to be - especially when he puts forth the effort - a better technician and in-ring storyteller than Cena.
      • He had turned heel - and in fact played a very good heel and foil to Cena.
  • Crowning Music Of Awesome:
  • Creator's Pet: The reason that Orton has been pushed to the moon is because Vince McMahon is a huge supporter of Orton's, so much so that Orton reportedly has backstage powers.
  • Draco in Leather Pants:
  • Evil Is Cool:
    • If it's true that the winners write the history books, then it's a wonder Orton's pen hasn't run dry.
    • WWE seems to be aware of this too - His face turn in 2009 has consisted simply of Orton attacking heels instead of faces, and playing to the crowd slightly more than when he was heel.
    • Randy's come out on record several times in 2012 saying that he would much rather play a heel. He got his wish the following year, but it subverted the above trope, as he's been made to seem significantly less threatening. For what it's worth, though, he does seem to be enjoying himself in the role.
    • His debut was "hyped" as being the second Third-generation superstar after The Rock.
  • Fridge Logic: Remember when Randy Orton proclaimed to Seth Rollins, who banned RKO at Extreme Rules 2015, that before the latter and that edition of RAW goes off the air, he was gonna "RKO every son of a bitch" he sees. Well, he made good on his promise with 5 RKOs. But notice how three of his victims (in that order) were Kofi Kingston, Heath Slater and The Miz. What do they all have in common? Prior to this, all three men have did something to piss off Orton, so it seemed like he intentionally targeted them to send a visual message to Rollins, who recently pissed him off as well.
  • Ho Yay: With Triple H and Batista in Evolution, a boatload of it with Edge in Rated-RKO, and with John Cena pretty much any time they're within ten feet of each other.
    • Most of the cases with John Cena would moreso be considered Foe Yay.
  • Internet Backdraft:
    • Was the subject of a particularly intense one following his defeating Ensemble Darkhorse Christian for the World Heavyweight Championship two days after Christian finally became world champion in WWE. He has never been a particular darling with the smark audience, however.
    • Happened again in Summerslam '13 when he cashed in on Daniel Bryan, who had just beaten Cena clean for the title, with assistance from HHH.
    • For once, this happened on the behalf of him in 2016. The ending of SummerSlam 2016 had Orton lying in a pool of his own blood after Brock Lesnar bashed his skull in with MMA elbows, losing via TKO. The fans flipped, for numerous reasons:
    1. This was seen as an unnecessary and confusing ending made to make the already ridiculously strong-looking Lesnar look even stronger. Many felt that Orton deserved better.
    2. It was reckless and dangerous. Orton could've been seriously hurt by those elbows, possibly even getting a concussion. The amount of blood he lost was already on the fast track to Eddie Guerrero-levels had it not been stemmed by the referee and medical personnel. The gash from which the blood flowed from resulted in him needing ten staples to close it.
    3. Reports came in that Orton hadn't even known about the ending until the night of the match, and agreed to it under the impression that Lesnar knew how to do this without harming him too badly. The company basically lied to him. note 
  • Invincible Hero:
    • Although it seems to have been toned down seriously in 2012-13, almost to the level of Badass Decay - probably due in no small part to numerous injuries and Wellness Program violations.
    • Much like John Cena in 2014, Orton lost just about any veneer of invincibility he once had via a squash from Brock Lesnar. Unlike Cena, the fans did not enjoy it at all. See Internet Backdraft for more details on that.
  • Jerk Sue: His face run from 2009 to 2011.
  • Magnificent Bastard: How he ended up the face in the Legacy break-up.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "RELEASE THE DOVES!" *Orton pose*
    • Hoes, Pose, and RKOs.
    • "STUPID! STUPID!"
    • "I just kicked your brother where his appendix used to be! And that's not the only place, that I'm gonna kick him!"
    • \_0__/
    • He'd RKO his own grandmother to be WWE Champion.
    • He'll go to the papers if he has to. (From this movie trailer.)
    • His thighs are amazing.
    • The "RKO Outta Nowhere" vine, which consists of images of Orton photoshopped into other vines where normal falls and mishaps turn into Randy RKO-ing the victim to the ground (and usually posing afterward), suddenly went viral in 2014. Randy himself even acknowledges the meme and re-tweets his favorites. Officially became an Ascended Meme with the RKO T-shirt and the way he delivered an RKO to Brock Lesnar on Raw on 8/1/16.
  • Misblamed:
  • Narm: Almost every live promo he cuts has a chance to be this:
    "Tonight, I'm gonna start what I finished." (TWICE!!)
    "And then...there was none."
    "Itís time to rectify the cowardness that has never been displayed in the history of the WWE."
    "Don't ever interrupt me again. And next time you do, show me the proper respect."
    "The closest Christian will ever get to touching this title...is when I nail him over the head with it. Again."
    • Some of the things he's does in his "Viper" gimmick (such as flailing his arms about and punching the ground) can be seen as pretty silly-looking at times. In fact, during a tag match after WrestleMania, Jerry Lawler started giggling a little when it started to look like Orton was just humping the ground, retorting with "He's so snake like!"
    • And of course, there's the stupider Malaproper moments in some of his promos, too.
    • Another thing that cuts into his badass psycho loner cred is his wife and daughter. He's a consummate family man, and they look well adjusted, normal and happy. That wouldn't be a problem if they didn't show up to and were pointed out on Raw.
    • That random jumping split after he RKO'd Mark Henry.
    • His post match assault of Christian following his DQ loss at Money in the Bank featured some truly goofy facial expressions.
    • On an episode of Smackdown, while Randy's on the warpath looking for Alberto Del Rio, he stops for a moment backstage to torment Ricardo Rodriguez. RKO? No. Punt. Nope. note  He does douse poor Ricardo in coffee and chili - which was admittedly funny, but didn't seem like a very Randy Orton thing to do.
  • Nightmare Retardant:
  • Pet the Dog:
  • Never Live It Down:
    • Injuring his shoulder performing his wake-up taunt for the RKO probably goes down in history as stupidest wrestling injury ever. Though Sami Zayn doing the same thing while being fired up for his main roster appearance in Montreal may surpass it.
    • This sentence will stick with him for the rest of his career: "Let me tell you something, bro, Eddie ain't in Heaven, Eddie's down there...in Hell!"
  • Reality Subtext: Probably not intentional at all, but it's... interesting that Orton seemed to slowly drift away from the most sadistic parts of his 'Viper' persona as his real-life self settled into being a husband and father. But then, in summer 2013 he and his wife divorced (she has custody of their daughter for obvious reasons)... and in fall 2013, the 'Viper' was back in full force...
    • His pre-2016 characterization as something of an entitled brat that Triple H constantly had to placate is viewed as only a slight exaggeration of what some circles believe is his Real Life personality backstage. Although it may be intentional on Orton's part, as he readily admits to having been that way, at least earlier in his career.
  • Redemption Promotion: Probably goes about 4-1 wins-to-losses as a face. In his latest heel run, he's been made to seem much less threatening - and as much as his win-loss record bears that out, there's also the fact that he tends to overlook opponents in mid-card TV matches, which has come back to bite him in the ass a couple of times, as he's lost to guys like Cesaro and Kofi Kingston.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
    • Kinda sorta example. While his winning the WHC from Christian sent him right to the bottom of the heap to a majority of the Smark audiences, others have claimed that the matches he's had since have been Randy at his most entertaining in years.
    • A bizarre thing happened after Randy cashed in on Daniel Bryan (with Triple H's help) to win the WWE Championship Title. Initially, of course, this turned him heel (and, in fact, might have been the only thing he could have done at the time to make a successful heel turn) and one would think that he would have become and remained the object of a lot of fans' vitriol for this action. But seemingly, after Batista's win at the Royal Rumble (and keep in mind, Batista was meant to be a face to square off against the heel Orton), all of the heat that was reserved for Orton was siphoned off onto Batista, so that Orton just became another heel and not the embodiment of the fans' overall frustration with WWE's booking.
    • People like Face Orton less because Randy tends to be very bland in that role, and thus lamented when Randy came back as a face in 2016. However, his time away from the company had seemingly rejuvenated his batteries — not only was Randy talking and acting energetically, who also seemed not to give a damn about the officials in the back and made numerous innuendos and jokes that were genuinely funny, including a dig at Brock Lesnar's recent steroids scandal. People were sold on the new Randy almost immediately.
      • And then it only got better with his RKO Outta Nowhere on Brock Lesnar during his return to Raw. And capped off by running into the crowd and giving Stephanie McMahon a major headache trying to get him out of the building. He won over nearly all of the remaining skeptics with that.
  • Special Effects Failure: A minor example on the 7/28/2014 RAW, when he tried to RKO Roman Reigns through the Spanish Announcers Table and it just didn't break. Randy, being Randy, simply RKO'd him again.
  • We Want Our Jerk Back: Very similarly to John Cena, most people in the IWC believe heel Randy Orton is more interesting than face Randy Orton - and more specifically, that Randy was at his best at the peak of his Ax-Crazy, head-punting Viper persona. This has even been addressed in-universe. After Randy lost the WWE Title to Daniel Bryan (which was later overturned by Triple H, of course), Stephanie gave him a "The Reason You Suck" Speech and specifically invoked this trope. (Keep in mind that said persona beat the crap out of her entire family at one point.) This worked a bit too well, as it resulted in The Authority constantly having to try to rein Orton in from that point on.
  • What an Idiot:
    • The man has hypermobile shoulders, his pre-finishing ritual consists of punching the ground, and his finishing move consists of landing on his shoulders...good job there Randy.
    • If we're going that route, pull the perspective back and mention his entire career choice. Professional wrestlers lie somewhere between Hollywood Stuntmen and Crash Test Dummies on the injury scale. For anyone with a predisposition to injury, it's not the best idea.
    • And then in 2010, Orton re-aggravates an injury while doing his pounding the mat routine, during a match on PPV no less.
    • Regardless of people's very divisive opinions of Kelly Kelly, calling her out as basically a slut on a radio show ("There are a lot of guys in the back who have done some "method acting" with Kelly") was in pretty poor taste any way you slice it. Credit to Kelly who offered a terse Twitter response ("The best way to fight stupidity is to ignore it") and Orton who apologized the next day.
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