These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
YMMV: Randy Orton
Badass Decay: Not only has he not been pushed as hard in 2012-2013 as he has in previous years, but he just doesn't come off as nearly intimidating as he used to personality-wise. It becomes readily apparent when he tries to get former arch-rivalsSheamus and The Big Show to team up with him against The Shield. The bizarreness of this is actually lampshaded at one point by The Miz, who essentially says that when Randy Orton of all people is the voice of reason in a situation, that situation's extremely screwed up.
Might be on the rebound now that he has turned heel by conspiring with Triple H to screw Daniel Bryan out of his title win at Summerslam '13 with the MITB briefcase.
Definitely on the rebound. He's committed numerous crazed assaults on other WWE Superstars thus far in this role. The only thing that's missing is his Patented Punt.
Base Breaker: While casual fans tend to love him, Smarks are ridiculously broken when it comes to their attitude about him on many counts:
Is Orton a legitimate talent worthy of his accolades, or another company-manufactured Creator's Pet who gets by on his connection with Triple H and his decent pedigree? (Insert obligatory joke here.)
Does Orton wrestle a simplistic style because he's incapable of doing otherwise, or does he have a method to his madness and know exactly what he's doing?
Which Randy Orton incarnation was/is more interesting/effective - the sadistic, vicious Viper or the cocky, suave Legend Killer?
As of late 2013/early 2014, a third contender has been added: craven, paranoid, overmatched Champion.
If it's true that the winners write the history books, then it's a wonder Orton's pen hasn't run dry.
WWE seems to be aware of this too - His face turn in 2009 has consisted simply of Orton attacking heels instead of faces, and playing to the crowd slightly more than when he was heel.
Randy's come out on record several times in 2012 saying that he would much rather play a heel. He got his wish the following year, but it subverted the above trope, as he's been made to seem significantly less threatening.
Most of the cases with John Cena would moreso be considered Foe Yay.
Internet Backdraft: Was the subject of a particularly intense one following his defeating Ensemble DarkhorseChristian for the World Heavyweight Championship two days after Christian finally became world champion in WWE. He has never been a particular darling with the smark audience, however.
Happened again in Summerslam '13 when he cashed in on Daniel Bryan, who had just beaten Cena clean for the title, with assistance from HHH.
"The closest Christian will ever get to touching this title...is when I nail him over the head with it. Again."
Some of the things he's does in his "Viper" gimmick (such as flailing his arms about and punching the ground) can be seen as pretty silly-looking at times. In fact, during a tag match after WrestleMania, Jerry Lawler started giggling a little when it started to look like Orton was just humping the ground, retorting with "He's so snake like!"
And of course, there's the stupider Malaproper moments in some of his promos, too.
Another thing that cuts into his badass psycho loner cred is his wife and daughter. He's a consummate family man, and they look well adjusted, normal and happy. That wouldn't be a problem if they didn't show up to and were pointed out on Raw.
That random jumping split after he RKO'd Mark Henry.
His post match assault of Christian following his DQ loss at Money in the Bank featured some truly goofy facial expressions.
On an episode of Smackdown, while Randy's on the warpath looking for Alberto Del Rio, he stops for a moment backstage to torment Ricardo Rodriguez. RKO? No. Punt. Nope. note Apparently Randy's no longer allowed to use the Punt, presumably because he has to act somewhat like a face - or maybe because it's too easily imitated by small children that might be watching. He does douse poor Ricardo in coffee and chili - which was admittedly funny, but didn't seem like a very Randy Orton thing to do.
Mostly his Twitter. He's supposed to be The Stoic and all that gets blown to pieces when you hear him do some of the typical "lmao"-type tweeting. When he actually used the word "Yippee," it made it a little harder to take his "Viper" character seriously.
Reality Subtext: Probably not intentional at all, but it's... interesting that Orton seemed to slowly drift away from the most sadistic parts of his 'Viper' persona as his real-life self settled into being a husband and father. But then, in summer 2013 he and his wife divorced (she has custody of their daughter for obvious reasons)... and in fall 2013, the 'Viper' was back in full force...
Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Kinda sorta example. While his winning the WHC from Christian sent him right to the bottom of the heap to a majority of the Smark audiences, others have claimed that the matches he's had since have been Randy at his most entertaining in years.
We Want Our Jerk Back: Very similarly to John Cena, most people in the IWC believe heel Randy Orton is more interesting than face Randy Orton - and more specifically, that Randy was at his best at the peak of his Ax-Crazy, head-punting Viper persona. This has even been addressed in-universe. After Randy lost the WWE Title to Daniel Bryan (which was later overturned by Triple H, of course), Stephanie gave him a "The Reason You Suck" Speech and specifically invoked this trope. (Keep in mind that said persona beat the crap out of herentirefamily at one point.) This worked a bit too well, as it resulted in The Authority constantly having to try to rein Orton in from that point on.
The man has hypermobile shoulders, his pre-finishing ritual consists of punching the ground, and his finishing move consists of landing on his shoulders...good job there Randy.
If we're going that route, pull the perspective back and mention his entire career choice. Professional wrestlers lie somewhere between Hollywood Stuntmen and Crash Test Dummies on the injury scale. For anyone with a predisposition to injury, it's not the best idea.
And then in 2010, Orton re-aggravates an injury while doing his pounding the mat routine, during a match on PPV no less.
Regardless of people's very divisive opinions of Kelly Kelly, calling her out as basically a slut on a radio show ("There are a lot of guys in the back who have done some "method acting" with Kelly") was in pretty poor taste any way you slice it. Credit to Kelly who offered a terse Twitter response ("The best way to fight stupidity is to ignore it") and Orton who apologized the next day.