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* OneSceneWonder: Coconut, Featherbed, Marching Order, Duke Greengrass in ''Carrot Top Season'', and the Sirens (with a musical number, no less)
* RonTheDeathEater: Some feel the way the canon Mane Six (particularly Twilight and Applejack) were written falls into this, due to the treatment they get and how few good points they seem to have. On the other hand, the various authors of the Lunaverse noticed this problem and have spent considerable time rectifying their original portrayals of the Mane-6 in later fics.

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* OneSceneWonder: Coconut, Featherbed, Marching Order, Duke Greengrass in ''Carrot Top Season'', and the Sirens (with a musical number, no less)
* RonTheDeathEater: Some feel the way the canon Mane Six (particularly Twilight and Applejack) were written falls into this, due to the treatment they get and how few good points they seem to have. On the other hand, the various authors of the Lunaverse noticed this problem and have spent considerable time rectifying their original portrayals of the Mane-6 in later fics.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** ''The Return of Tambelon'' and to a lesser extent ''Magic Tutor'', both by RDD himself and intended to fix some problems with the Lunaverse's narrative. The former exists primarily to change Corona's character into something less monstrous and therefore both easier to write as a villain [[spoiler: while also making sure that she won't go overboard and have people hating her return to grace by the end of the season.]] Zecora's role in the series is also more clearly defined [[spoiler: she is working with Corona because she knows that Corona has some part to play come the season finale]]. ''Magic Tutor,'' meanwhile, exists to finish Twilight's arc happily, by placing her in Ponyville where she can make friends, while also making it clear that [[spoiler: no one in Ponyville really cares about the Ursa Minor incident from ''Boast Busted,'' since monster attacks happen all the time in Ponyville]].
** ''Climbing the Mountain'' serves as this to the Night Court arc, by focusing mostly on nobles who aren't complete jerks, by showing the Court's efforts to redeem itself, and by giving character development to otherwise villainous characters like Greengrass and Puissance. It also includes more comedy and romantic elements than previous Night Court stories (which focused primarily on political corruption and backchannel dealings), lifting the cloud of TooBleakStoppedCaring from the storyline.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Given the way several fics portray her, Ditzy can come across as dangerously over-attached to her daughter.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Given the way several fics portray her, Ditzy can come across as dangerously over-attached to her daughter.
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* IdiotPlot:
** ''Symphony for the Moon and Sun'', while generally considered to be good (to say nothing of being ADayInTheLimelight for Octavia), still requires that Luna never bothered explaining what her deal was with the song, or even forbidding it from being performed at all, or maybe checking to see whether Octavia had actually wanted to play it in the first place.
** ''Old Friends'' has Cheerilee's old friend Notary come to town to inform Cheer that once, while they were very drunk, the two got married and now she wants an annulment. Even though she doesn't want the marriage either, Cheerilee decides to run away, resulting in a Looney Tunes-esque chase about town when all Cheerilee has to do is sign the annulment and Notary would leave.
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* MisaimedFandom: Some readers have a habit of assuming the worst of certain characters. The standout examples being the belief that L!Applebloom is a bully similar to Diamond Tiara, and that L!Twilight [[spoiler: would be perfectly willing to team up with Corona]]. These ideas annoy [=RainbowDoubleDash=] enough to discourage people from believing them. Both of these examples lessened considerably after ''Carrot Top Season'' and ''A Chance Encounter'' were published. The former showed Applebloom in more detail and the latter proved that Twilight does not sympathize with [[spoiler: Corona]]. [=RainbowDoubleDash=] has also noted that readers have come to see the Lunaverse as a lot darker than he originally intended. UpToEleven with ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', which even has some of the authors protesting how dark the story has gotten.

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* MisaimedFandom: Some readers have a habit of assuming the worst of certain characters. The standout examples being the belief that L!Applebloom is a bully similar to Diamond Tiara, and that L!Twilight [[spoiler: would be perfectly willing to team up with Corona]]. These ideas annoy [=RainbowDoubleDash=] enough to discourage people from believing them. Both of these examples lessened considerably after ''Carrot Top Season'' and ''A Chance Encounter'' were published. The former showed Applebloom in more detail and the latter proved that Twilight does not sympathize with [[spoiler: Corona]]. [=RainbowDoubleDash=] has also noted that readers have come to see the Lunaverse as a lot darker than he originally intended. UpToEleven Up to eleven with ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', which even has some of the authors protesting how dark the story has gotten.
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Tastes Like Diabetes is no longer a trope. Moving examples to other tropes when applicable.


* TastesLikeDiabetes: Cherilee's reaction to learning that Dinky saved for almost a year to get money for Ditzy's birthday present. Also lampshaded later by Amethyst Star.
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** ''Climbing the Mountain'' serves as this to the Night Court arc, by focusing mostly on nobles who aren't complete jerks, by showing the Court's efforts to redeem itself, and by giving character development to otherwise villainous characters like Greengrass and Puissance. It also includes more comedy and romantic elements than previous Night Court stories (which focused primarily on political corruption and backchannel dealings), lifting the cloud of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy from the stoyline.

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** ''Climbing the Mountain'' serves as this to the Night Court arc, by focusing mostly on nobles who aren't complete jerks, by showing the Court's efforts to redeem itself, and by giving character development to otherwise villainous characters like Greengrass and Puissance. It also includes more comedy and romantic elements than previous Night Court stories (which focused primarily on political corruption and backchannel dealings), lifting the cloud of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy TooBleakStoppedCaring from the stoyline.storyline.
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* FoeYay:
** In ''The Hero of Oaton'', Cut N' Dry starts crushing hard on Raindrops at first sight.
** Kindle and his thing with Raindrops, which she returned up until she learned who he was.
** Cheerilee makes passes at Corona every time they meet, albeit only because Corona tends to be reduced to sputtering and shock (that a common pony would make a pass at an alicorn like that) by them rather than out of any real feelings for her.
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* CrazyAwesome: Trajectory. His ultimate plan? It's to ''destroy the sun'' with a catapult. Which basically means firing safes, anvils, and pianos towards it. Essentially, he's shooting unbelievably heavy death in ''every direction'' because he doesn't understand how far away the sun is.

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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyIsCool: Trajectory. His ultimate plan? It's to ''destroy the sun'' with a catapult. Which basically means firing safes, anvils, and pianos towards it. Essentially, he's shooting unbelievably heavy death in ''every direction'' because he doesn't understand how far away the sun is.
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That she later gets redeeming character development invalidates.


** [[spoiler: Corona kidnapping about fifty foals from Ponyville and threatening to slaughter them unless Ponyville stays nice and quiet and accepts her as their new Queen. This is maybe ten minutes, max, after she's escaped from the sun.]]
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TRS. DIAA now requires proof of audience apathy. A handful of bad reviews are insufficient.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
** As of ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', some readers perceived the L6 as descending to the level of the corrupt nobles and planning to commit high treason to fight them, which caused them to stop caring which side wins.
** A vocal few, prior to ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', were getting sick of the Night Court arc on the basis that it was taking up time in-story better-suited for going after Corona, and believing the political power-grabbing only muddled the whole arc.

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** A vocal few, prior to ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'' were getting sick of the Night Court arc on the basis that it was taking up time in-story better-suited for going after Corona, and believing the political power-grabbing only muddled the whole arc.

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** A vocal few, prior to ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'' Gala'', were getting sick of the Night Court arc on the basis that it was taking up time in-story better-suited for going after Corona, and believing the political power-grabbing only muddled the whole arc.



* HilariousInHindsight: The Sirens in ''Longest Day, Longest Night'' match the Dazzlings very closely, from their appearance to their powers to working in a trio, despite the story having come out two years before ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]''.



** ''Symphony For The Moon And Sun'', while generally considered to be good (to say nothing of being ADayInTheLimelight for Octavia), the plot still requires that Luna never bothered explaining what her deal was with the song, or even forbidding it from being performed at all, or maybe checking to see whether Octavia had actually wanted to play it in the first place.

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** ''Symphony For The for the Moon And and Sun'', while generally considered to be good (to say nothing of being ADayInTheLimelight for Octavia), the plot still requires that Luna never bothered explaining what her deal was with the song, or even forbidding it from being performed at all, or maybe checking to see whether Octavia had actually wanted to play it in the first place.



* JerkassWoobie: If you still think of Applejack as being a jerk after reading Carrot Top Season, you might be part demon. Everything she does she does because she thinks that she has to and, since she works too hard, she has no idea why the townsfolk might not like her.

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* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
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If you still think of Applejack as being a jerk after reading Carrot Top Season, you might be part demon. Everything she does she does because she thinks that she has to and, since she works too hard, she has no idea why the townsfolk might not like her.



* MisaimedFandom: Some readers have a habit of assuming the worst of certain characters. The standout examples being the belief that L!Applebloom is a bully similar to Diamond Tiara, and that L!Twilight [[spoiler: would be perfectly willing to team up with Corona]]. These ideas annoy [=RainbowDoubleDash=] enough to discourage people from believing them. Both of these examples lessened considerably after ''Carrot Top Season'' and ''A Chance Encounter'' were published. The former showed Applebloom in more detail and the latter proved that Twilight does not sympathize with [[spoiler: Corona]].
** [=RainbowDoubleDash=] has also noted that readers have come to see the Lunaverse as a lot darker than he originally intended.
*** UpToEleven with ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', which even has some of the authors protesting how dark the story has gotten.

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* MisaimedFandom: Some readers have a habit of assuming the worst of certain characters. The standout examples being the belief that L!Applebloom is a bully similar to Diamond Tiara, and that L!Twilight [[spoiler: would be perfectly willing to team up with Corona]]. These ideas annoy [=RainbowDoubleDash=] enough to discourage people from believing them. Both of these examples lessened considerably after ''Carrot Top Season'' and ''A Chance Encounter'' were published. The former showed Applebloom in more detail and the latter proved that Twilight does not sympathize with [[spoiler: Corona]].
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Corona]]. [=RainbowDoubleDash=] has also noted that readers have come to see the Lunaverse as a lot darker than he originally intended.
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intended. UpToEleven with ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', which even has some of the authors protesting how dark the story has gotten.



** [[spoiler: Corona kidnapping about 50 foals from Ponyville and threatening to slaughter them unless Ponyville stays nice and quiet and accepts her as their new Queen. This is maybe ten minutes, max, after she's escaped from the sun.]]

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** [[spoiler: Corona kidnapping about 50 fifty foals from Ponyville and threatening to slaughter them unless Ponyville stays nice and quiet and accepts her as their new Queen. This is maybe ten minutes, max, after she's escaped from the sun.]]



* NeverLiveItDown: Applejack's early portrayal as dangerously obsessive over her farm's future, to say nothing of her becoming increasingly hostile and paranoid through ''Carrot Top Season''.
** The early portrayal of the regular Mane 6 in general was (and on occasion still is) this.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Applejack's early portrayal as dangerously obsessive over her farm's future, to say nothing of her becoming increasingly hostile and paranoid through ''Carrot Top Season''.
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Season''. The early portrayal of the regular Mane 6 in general was (and on occasion still is) this.



* RonTheDeathEater: Some feel the way the canon Mane Six (particularly Twilight and Applejack) were written falls into this, due to the treatment they get and how few good points they seem to have.
** On the other hand, the various authors of the Lunaverse noticed this problem and have spent considerable time rectifying their original portrayals of the Mane-6 in later fics.
* TastesLikeDiabetes: Cherilee's reaction to learning that Dinky saved for almost a year to get money for Ditzy's birthday present.
** Also lampshaded later by Amethyst Star.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Some feel the way the canon Mane Six (particularly Twilight and Applejack) were written falls into this, due to the treatment they get and how few good points they seem to have.
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have. On the other hand, the various authors of the Lunaverse noticed this problem and have spent considerable time rectifying their original portrayals of the Mane-6 in later fics.
* TastesLikeDiabetes: Cherilee's reaction to learning that Dinky saved for almost a year to get money for Ditzy's birthday present.
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present. Also lampshaded later by Amethyst Star.Star.
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Require the work commercially fail to prove it alienated them. Fanworks can't count because they can appeal to ultra-niche and have no objective metric of failure. And things that crop up are not part of the premise.


* AudienceAlienatingPremise:
** To a minor degree at the beginning of the run, many avoided the story simply due to the switch-up of Luna's and Celestia's roles, not helped ''at all'' by [[spoiler: Celestia/Corona rejecting an offer of friendship when in-canon Luna accepted it]], or [[spoiler: Corona willingly threatening the lives of ''foals'' to get her way]].
** The Night Court and its shenanigans. More than a few people who started reading the Lunaverse stopped once the Night Court's politicking started to take over.
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* FandomNod: ''Boast Busted'' twice hints that Lyra's hooves were turned into...something, which is always cut off before the speaker can finish. Those who are familiar with Lyra's fanon characterization can probably guess what that something is. More hints to these events are dropped during ''Family Matters''. The events mentioned are ''finally'' shown in "Helping... Hands?", where Lyra is turned into a human directly. [[spoiler: And, in a MythologyGag, hates it.]]
** In ''Carrot Top of the Line'' Rarity comments multiple time about liking Carrot Top's mane. There is also a MythologyGag in there.
** When Shining Armor meets Luna, he notices an [[Fanfic/{{Progress}} abacus.]]
** Silver Script's (Ditzy's boss) baseball bat has words "Love and Tolerance" written into it.



** Also lampshaded later by Amethyst Star.
* WordOfGod: The authors of the Lunaverse are fond of putting in additional details or tidbits in the comments sections or author's notes of their stories. For example, the official hierarchy of Equestrian gentry and nobility was outlined in the comments of ''Longest Night, Longest Day'', rather than directly stated in any story.

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** Also lampshaded later by Amethyst Star.
* WordOfGod: The authors of the Lunaverse are fond of putting in additional details or tidbits in the comments sections or author's notes of their stories. For example, the official hierarchy of Equestrian gentry and nobility was outlined in the comments of ''Longest Night, Longest Day'', rather than directly stated in any story.
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** [[spoiler: Later, Corona decides to destroy Canterlot and a good chunk of the surrounding countryside due to Shining Armor's trolling her, despite stating not thirty seconds previously that, as an immortal, she has all the time in the world to wait for Shining Armor to grow tired and stop being able to project his shield around Canterlot. She is fortunately (if accidentally) stopped by Zecora before she can go through with it, but still...]]


* HypeBacklash: Antithesis, the villain of the long-awaited ''Crisis on Two Lunaverses'' has been derided for her lackluster nature.
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**[[spoiler:Kindle's seduction of Raindrops is considered this by a significant portion of the fanbase.]]
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* ExiledFromContinuity: As you might have noticed, some people have...issues...with the Night Court, and the direction it was taking the Lunaverse. This extends to the series creator himself. While no Night Court story has been decanonized, [=RainbowDoubleDash=] has flatly refused to allow any more canon stories focused on the Night Court.
** The exception to this is [=TalonAndThorn=]'s ''Climbing the Mountain'' series, for three reasons: First, it was already in-progress, and [=RainbowDoubleDash=] didn't want to cut off [=TalonAndThorn=] from finishing it; second, it is far more focused on showing a ''positive'' side to the Night Court, rather than constant scheming and dirty dealing (notably, our perspective character is the newly-created Baron Mounty Max and him learning the ropes and trying to improve things for his new province, rather than any political games focused on gaining power or gaining control of the Elements); and third, because it is considered "soft canon" that other "hard canon" fics can contradict and take priority over if need be.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: ''The Return of Tambelon'' and to a lesser extent ''Magic Tutor'', both by RDD himself and intended to fix some problems with the Lunaverse's narrative. The former exists primarily to change Corona's character into something less monstrous and therefore both easier to write as a villain [[spoiler: while also making sure that she won't go overboard and have people hating her return to grace by the end of the season.]] Zecora's role in the series is also more clearly defined [[spoiler: she is working with Corona because she knows that Corona has some part to play come the season finale]]. ''Magic Tutor,'' meanwhile, exists to finish Twilight's arc happily, by placing her in Ponyville where she can make friends, while also making it clear that [[spoiler: no one in Ponyville really cares about the Ursa Minor incident from ''Boast Busted,'' since monster attacks happen all the time in Ponyville]].

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
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''The Return of Tambelon'' and to a lesser extent ''Magic Tutor'', both by RDD himself and intended to fix some problems with the Lunaverse's narrative. The former exists primarily to change Corona's character into something less monstrous and therefore both easier to write as a villain [[spoiler: while also making sure that she won't go overboard and have people hating her return to grace by the end of the season.]] Zecora's role in the series is also more clearly defined [[spoiler: she is working with Corona because she knows that Corona has some part to play come the season finale]]. ''Magic Tutor,'' meanwhile, exists to finish Twilight's arc happily, by placing her in Ponyville where she can make friends, while also making it clear that [[spoiler: no one in Ponyville really cares about the Ursa Minor incident from ''Boast Busted,'' since monster attacks happen all the time in Ponyville]].Ponyville]].
** ''Climbing the Mountain'' serves as this to the Night Court arc, by focusing mostly on nobles who aren't complete jerks, by showing the Court's efforts to redeem itself, and by giving character development to otherwise villainous characters like Greengrass and Puissance. It also includes more comedy and romantic elements than previous Night Court stories (which focused primarily on political corruption and backchannel dealings), lifting the cloud of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy from the stoyline.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The non-cannon story ''Dinky and the Blanks'' has the antagonists removing their cutie marks somehow, and banishing anyone from their town who gets one. The story was written in 2012, years before Starlight Glimmer showed up.

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* IdiotPlot: ''Symphony For The Moon And Sun'', while generally considered to be good (to say nothing of being ADayInTheLimelight for Octavia), the plot still requires that Luna never bothered explaining what her deal was with the song, or even forbidding it from being performed at all, or maybe checking to see whether Octavia had actually wanted to play it in the first place.

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* IdiotPlot: IdiotPlot:
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''Symphony For The Moon And Sun'', while generally considered to be good (to say nothing of being ADayInTheLimelight for Octavia), the plot still requires that Luna never bothered explaining what her deal was with the song, or even forbidding it from being performed at all, or maybe checking to see whether Octavia had actually wanted to play it in the first place.place.
** ''Old Friends'' has Cheerilee's old friend Notary come to town to inform Cheer that once, while they were very drunk, the two got married and now she wants an annulment. Even though she doesn't want the marriage either, Cheerilee decides to run away, resulting in a Looney Tunes-esque chase about town when all Cheerilee has to do is sign the annulment and Notary would leave.

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