YMMV: New Avengers
YMMV tropes for Volumes 1 and 2 of the Marvel comic:
- Angst? What Angst?: After the first arc of vol.2, Stephen Strange said that he would leave the team. It was not safe for the others, as the brother of Jericho had sworn vengueance against him. Luke Cage did not care. Whoever received similar threats in the past, raise your hand! (all the team did so)
- Author Appeal:
- A common complaint about the series is that Bendis just fills the roster with his own favourite characters, and not enough "classic" Avengers.
- When Leinil Yu was providing artwork for the series, he continued to include Iron Fist in his classic costume even though the character had debuted a brand new costume a few months earlier in The Immortal Iron Fist, and constantly features Howard the Duck in group shots of various heroes not in the team.
- Bizarro Episode: The storyline about Nick Fury and the '50s Avengers, which has no bearing on the series, and aside from one miniseries has never been mentioned again.
- Creator's Pet: Luke Cage for Brian Michael Bendis, whose run on the book saw him go from Hero For Hire to leader of the New Avengers, and is one of three characters (the others being Wolverine and Spider-Man) to remain on the team for the entirety of the first two volumes. While he did become a more mainstream character under Bendis, many grew tired of his exposure over the years.
- Similarly, Jessica Jones, who was merely a supporting character in the first volume before becoming a full fledged member of the team following Dark Reign and actually was created by Bendis. While she was initially a very liked character, especially due to Alias, fans grew tired of her very quickly, due to her seemingly needing to be in everything.
- Hilarious in Hindsight: In an early issue of the series, Daisy Johnson is needed and afterwards, she declares that her Avengers codename will be Quake. Steve then informs her that they aren't looking for new recruits. Years later, during Hickman's Avengers, Tony and Steve are expanding the lineup, and right there on a list of recruits is Daisy Johnson.
- Ho Yay: When the embarrassing truth came out that Jessica Jones had a crush on Peter Parker when they were in high school came out, Spider-Man attempted to reassure Luke Cage that he had no designs on his wife. He then went on to ask if the way were clear to Iron Fist...
- Mary Sue: Fongji, a previous Iron Fist who manages to acquire the power of the Phoenix as well, before vanishing for parts unknown. It doesn't help that she looks incredibly like Hope Summers, who's received similar accusations.
- Narm: Ms. Marvel's idea of an insult? Calling someone a "hump".
- The Scrappy: The Sentry is universally hated by this point.
- Tear Jerker: Luke Cage's attempts to find and reconnect with his father, who is unable and unwilling to look at his son, much less talk to him.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks: The reaction a number of "old school" Avengers fans had, with the initial line-up featuring only two classic Avengers and the shift away from the global level threats the classic book dealt with.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: In the opening story of vol 2, it's stated that the Vishanti, the Big Good as far as magic is concerned in Marvel, are no more. Despite the fact that this should be a world-shaking event, it's never brought up again.
- Villain Sue: The Hood.
YMMV Tropes for Volume 3 of the Marvel Comic:
- Audience-Alienating Premise: A lot of people are pretty quick to turn away from the book, mostly because of the reputation of being about how morally reprehensible the main characters can be.
- It doesn't help that there are other groups that are actually being more productive with coming up with a solution to the problem that doesn't involve blowing up other Earths. When Doctor Doom is doing a better job of doing that, well, so much for the smartest 'heroes' on the planet...
- Creator's Pet: A criticism some have of Hickman's run is that he only focuses on characters he had extended plans for (Reed Richards, Black Panther), while others are fairly neglected overall (Beast in particular, though Iron Man and Black Bolt got it as well), due to Marvel having other plans for them.
- Ensemble Darkhorse: Sun God of the Great Society due to being the one Expy from Marvel closest to Superman and standing out in the Grey and Gray Morality of the Incursion situation.
- The entire Great Society could be thought of this. Another homage to the Justice Leage and the heroes of DC, they are presented as a moral team and badasses in their own right.
- Evil Is Sexy: Black Swan seems to have developed this reputation.
- Hilarious in Hindsight: Something that detractors of his run often said was that, while Hickman made the comic feel epic, Status Quo Is God and it would all amount to nothing in the end... Come 2015, and it turns out his run was the set-up to Secret Wars (2015), which is Marvel's biggest event in years, and will have a huge lasting effect on the Marvel universe. Subverted though (or played straight, depending on how you felt about his run), in that, ultimately, his run did end up amounting to nothing; besides a few Alternate Universe characters jumping to the main universe and a few new teams starting with the soul purpose of stopping anything like this happening again, very little has changed and most of the characters involved have had their involvement swept under the rug, thus making the predictions of the detractors completely accurate.
- Ho Yay: Sun God doesn't go berserk as his team is destroyed, but when the Rider, Wayne, dies. It helps that the two are very clearly Expies of Superman and Batman, respectively, who are the poster boys for the trope in comics.
- Idiot Plot: One of the main points of criticism for the run is how the main conflict could have been solved had they not kept it a secret. If the Illuminati reached out to the Marvel U's larger scientific community, to other magicians and sorcerers, and every other super-team, as soon as they found out about the problem, they would have had far more resources at their disposal to actually stop it, or at the very least more time to launch an evacuation.
- Moral Event Horizon: The Illuminati wiping Steve's memory. Though it could also be Cruel to Be Kind.
- Strange either already crossed it when he offered to sell his entire soul for power before finding out that it was already bound to another demon or at the latest when he slaughtered the Great Society with those dark powers.
- While one could make an argument in favor of Namor for saving Earth 616 via destroying the homeworld of the Great Society, he most definitely crossed it after gloating right in T'Challa's face how he enjoyed destroying Wakanda twice and regrets that so many are left alive. Although he was mourning the death of his own people the second time, which Shuri is directly responsible for, so he may not have meant it.
- IF the previous wasn't enough his releasing and founding of the Cabal, which leads to the complete destruction of Wakanda, Shuri's death and the cruel destruction of a number of other worlds pretty much seals it for him, particularly with the other characters.
- Nightmare Fuel: The reveal in "Time Runs Out" that without any warning whatsoever, almost every single universe in existence has just... vanished.
- Villain Sue: The Ivory Kings. The Beyonders, while being able to defeat the Celestials is plausible, being able to kill multiple versions of Infinity and Eternity, not to mention the Living Tribunal, the second most powerful being in all of Marvel's cosmology, most certainly shouldn't.
YMMV Tropes for Volume 4 of the Marvel Comic:
- Internet Backdraft: Wiccan's design by Rafa Sandoval, including making him suddenly muscular and having wierd Emo-esque hair, has not received warm welcome from his fans. The depiction of Songbird was similarly controversial, mostly due to the unrealistic, and actually quite disturbing, skinniness of her waist; more than a few compared it to something Rob Liefeld would draw.
- Win Back the Crowd: Despite the above, fans of the two stuck on thanks to the knowledge that it would be written by Al Ewing; the general census seems to be that, while the art is off (and even there, its not as bad as the first preview made it look), the writing is good enough to ignore it, similar to Ewing's previous Mighty Avengers run which had to deal with Greg Land on art.