YMMV / Megadeth

  • Award Snub: Nominated eleven times for the Best Metal Performance Grammy, and eleven times denied.
  • Awesome Music: Start with Killing is My Business... and Business is Good! and go from there.
  • Badass Decay:
    • At some point in time, Marty Friedman became hooked on Marimite. He even wrote one of the ending themes, potentially Real Men Wear Pink.
    • Friedman has lived in Tokyo since 2003, speaks fluent Japanese, plays for J-pop singers (among others) and hosts two metal-themed TV shows. Quite busy.
    • If you regarded Dave Mustaine as badass in the first place (also considering he has a third-degree black belt in Taekwondo), his decline from "snarky but sociopolitically aware metal musician" to "racist, homophobic, bigoted, Conspiracy Theorist loudmouthed asshole" is very unnerving to witness.
    • The band itself suffered from this during The '90s and The New Tens, although Dystopia gladly helped this issue.
  • Broken Base: It's arguable, but it seems every album after at least Youthanasia has highly split opinions.
    • For members, few have been as polarizing as Chris Broderick. He's either the best that Dave has had since Friedman, or he was a boring, totally unremarkable player with all the technical ability in the world and no idea how to write a memorable or captivating lead.
    • Mustaine himself has become this as of late, due in particular to insisting that Black Metal bands (e.g., Dissection, Rotting Christ) be thrown off festivals due to his religious beliefs; his homophobia, racism, bigotry, and conspiracy theories; and other similar shortcomings. To be perfectly honest he's evinced a rather ugly strain of homophobia since at least The '90s, but many of those other traits didn't manifest themselves until his religious conversion.
  • Critical Dissonance: Cryptic Writings was hailed by many critics as the band's best album since Rust in Peace but garnered a mixed reception from fans, who saw the album as a further attempt at pandering to the mainstream (although the album had "Trust"). The album has been slightly better received since from the band started using those sorts of catchy choruses in heavy songs on later albums (such as "Never Walk Alone... A Call to Arms" and "44 Minutes").
  • Dork Age: While the discussion among fans varies on when did Megadeth start their decline and/or when did they start their recovery, it is more generally agreed that the period beginning with Cryptic Writings to The World Needs a Hero is the worst part of Megadeth's career. The vast majority will also agree that Th1rt3en and Super Collider were every bit as bad as the albums from the first Dork Age; while fan opinions on just how good Dystopia is are somewhat divided, virtually everyone will at least agree that it's at least as good as Endgame, if not better.
  • Ear Worm:
    • "Insomniamniamniamniamniamniamniamnia."
    • "Fight, Fight, This Day We Fight, Fight, Fight, Fight, This Day I Fight!"
    • "Set the ball a-rollin, I'll be clicking off the miles, on the train of consequences, my boxcar life o' style..."
    • "Hello me, it's me again..."
    • Many solos qualify as this.
  • Epic Riff: "Holy Wars... The Punishment Due", "Hangar 18", "Symphony of Destruction", etc.
  • Epileptic Trees: One theory states that the title track to Countdown to Extinction is a Take That to Metallica's James Hetfield, who is well-known as an avid hunter.
  • Fanon Discontinuity:
    • The end of Megadeth's most acclaimed period is Cryptic Writings, though some people consider it part of it. Some people add The World Needs a Hero, but it has mostly been forgotten due to poor promotion. More still will add the reunion albums (The System Has Failed and onwards). The only general consensus is that Risk and Super Collider are the worst (read: least metal) of the fifteen albums, and many fans wish they haven't been released.
    • Or, if an album doesn't have ellipses in either the title or a song within it, it isn't canon. This of course means everything between Rust in Peace and The World Needs a Hero doesn't exist, so make of that what you will.
    • Alternatively, if your main issue with Megadeth is Dave Mustaine's changed mindset in recent years, and its influence on the band's music, just pretend their temporary breakup in 2002 was permanent.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Many Megadeth fans appreciate Metallica, and indeed vice versa. Both bands have put the 30-year rivalry behind them, and fans who were around to see the rivalry start have done the same. However, this doesn't stop younger trolls from falsely assuming (and refusing to accept otherwise) that every single Metallica song from the first three albums was written entirely by Mustaine (which note  simply isn't the case; on the other hand, the claims that they told Hammett to emulate Mustaine's lead style on Kill 'Em All have been substantiated).
  • Funny Moments: The censored version of their cover of "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'". One of these days, these boots are gonna (bleep) all over you!
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff:
    • They're considered idols in Argentina. Megadeth themselves recorded a live album in 2005 there as a recognition, called That One Night: Live in Buenos Aires.
    • During the band's performance of "Coming Home" from said live album, Dave Mustaine announced to the Argentinian crowd that Megadeth will continue as a band.
    • They are also very popular in India, having performed there twice in the last ten years.
  • Growing the Beard: Their most remembered era takes place in The '80s and part of The '90s. Part of their era in the Turn of the Millennium could also be seen as this.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: "À Tout le Monde", a song about a man giving his last words to his loved ones before he dies, became this after the passing of Nick Menza, who performed the drums on the original version.
  • Internet Backdraft: Pretty much the metal community's reaction to Dave Mustaine's endorsement of Rick Santorum, which is quite possibly the complete opposite of what you would expect from a metal band.
  • Memetic Badass: Shawn Drover. note 
  • Memetic Mutation:
  • Mis-blamed: While people blame Executive Meddling for what became Risk, Dave Mustaine has admitted in interviews that he's as much to blame for it as anyone else. As mentioned above, Cryptic Writings got the band increased mainstream attention (though not increased album sales), and Mustaine effectively decided "Hey outside songwriters! This mainstream attention thing is pretty cool... let's have some more of that please!" He also stated in his autobiography that Marty Friedman was getting tired of metal and was itching to move on to other styles, and some of the musical changes were done to appease him and keep him around long enough to complete the album. The result... was not quite what he (or anyone else) wanted.
  • Narm: The music video for the title track of Super Collider.
  • Narm Charm:
    • The lyrics often end up like this, most notably on "Peace Sells".
    • Especially the spoken word parts of "Sweating Bullets".
    • "Have Cool, Will Travel" in the Cryptic Writings remaster. "The wheels on the bus go round and round" *Drowned out by loudass drums*
  • Nightmare Fuel: The lyrics for "Good Mourning/Black Friday".
    My hammer's a cold piece of blood-lethal steel
    I grin while you writhe with the pain that I deal
    Swinging the hammer, I hack through their heads
    Deviant defilers, you're next to be dead
    I unleash my hammer with sadistic intent
    Pounding, surrounding, slamming through your head
  • Older Than They Think: Many people think "A Tout le Monde" (from Youthanasia) was the band's first ballad. It's actually "Foreclosure of a Dream" (from Countdown to Extinction).
  • Signature Song: "Symphony of Destruction".
  • Tear Jerker: "À Tout le Monde", a combined suicide note and heartfelt wish for the narrator's friends and family to go on with their lives and remember him fondly.
  • Sacred Cow: Rust in Peace is as universally loved in the metal community as Metallica's Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets, and criticising it generally qualifies as a Fandom Berserk Button. Peace Sells... but Who's Buying? isn't too far behind.
  • The Scrappy: The Drover brothers, but especially Shawn. Some fans give Glen the benefit of the doubt and just assume that he wasn't really given much room to shine, but Shawn was pretty much universally disliked for his very straightforward, by-the-book style. He wasn't a bad drummer per se, just one whose simplistic style was not at all a good fit for a band that had historically had very technical and dynamic drummers, and many did not have any issues with his departure.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks:
    • Regarding Mustaine remixing and remastering all of the albums from Killing is My Business... through Risk while he was recovering from his arm injury. While they have a clearer production, insightful liner notes, lots of pictures, and plenty of bonus tracks, the changes can be a bit disquieting from the originals. Generally, people will agree that the remasters of Killing is My Business... and So Far, So Good... So What! improved those albums tremendously. Opinions are more sharply divided about the other albums.
      • The remaster of Rust in Peace has some of the most glaring changes. The master vocal tracks for "Take No Prisoners", "Five Magics", "Lucretia", and "Rust in Peace... Polaris" were lost, forcing Mustaine to completely re-record the vocals for "Take No Prisoners" and "Rust in Peace... Polaris" and use B-take vocal tracks for the other two. Also, the bass for "Take No Prisoners" is much more pronounced in the mix and more bottom-heavy (which is a constant in all the remasters), which greatly mutes the short solo before the "Going to war, give 'em hell" section.
      • Countdown to Extinction and Youthanasia have the drums sounding considerably muted as if the high frequencies have been filtered out. This is especially apparent by comparing the intro to "Skin o' My Teeth" on both versions of Countdown.
      • Mustaine made numerous changes to Cryptic Writings as well. The most commonly cited ones are the removal of the "Needles and Pins" sample from the intro to "Use the Man", the addition of heavier guitars to "A Secret Place" (and pushing the sitar way back in the mix), new intros to "The Disintegrators" and "Have Cool, Will Travel", and an additional guitar and no echo on the vocals on the chorus of "Almost Honest",. There are subtle other mixing differences; "Vortex"'s intro no longer fades in but starts cold, and "Almost Honest" has much better separation in the mix. It is said these were Mustaine did this to remove the pop elements and turn it into more of a metal album. Generally, fans like some of the changes and dislike some others. Cryptic Writings is not as popular as the band's other albums nor is it as notorious as Risk or Super Collider, so it enjoys a cult fandom.
    • Mustaine himself wanted to do further work on the really poorly-produced So Far, So Good... So What!, but invoked this trope as a justification: he had been pissed off by Jimmy Page's remastering of Led Zeppelin albums that took out all the superfluous squeaks and details. Ironic, since later Megadeth remasters removed several of those.
    • Fan reactions to the band's gradual shift from thrash metal to a Lighter and Softer heavy metal and later hard rock sound during the '90s.
    • The band's new album, Super Collider, has gotten this reaction due to its more rock-oriented sound similar to Risk's, specially since the band were returning to a Darker and Edgier sound in the 2000s. Most fans enjoy Dystopia for reversing this.
  • Tough Act to Follow:
    • Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?, followed by the rushed So Far, So Good... So What?.
    • Rust in Peace became the standard test to anything that came after it.
    • Endgame is sometimes considered by fans to be one of Megadeth's best albums, while the rushed Th1rt3en isn't as appreciated. The general consensus is that Dystopia is at least as good, if not better, however.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: We're clearly supposed to sympathize with Mustaine in "1,000 Times Goodbye," since his lover left him for another man. However, her voice clips make it clear that she's been suffering for years under him and tried repeatedly to make their relationship work, making the song's protagonist sound more like a narcissistic jerk than a jilted spouse.
  • We're Still Relevant, Dammit: The World Needs a Hero is a textbook example of this. The album was hyped as a "return to form" for the band after the blatantly commercial Risk bombed both critically and commercially. Critics and fans almost unanimously agreed that the album failed to live up to this promise. Perhaps most telling of the band's desperation at this point: the album contained a sequel to the classic "Hangar 18" that wasn't nearly as good as the original.