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YMMV: Megadeth
  • Award Snub: Nominated eleven times for the Best Metal Performance Grammy, eleven times denied.
  • Awesome Music: Start with Killing Is My Business... and go from there.
  • Badass Decay:
    • At some point in time, Marty Friedman became hooked on Marimite. He even wrote one of the ending themes, potentially Real Men Wear Pink.
    • Friedman's lived in Tokyo since 2003, speaks fluent Japanese, plays for J-pop singers (among others) and hosts two metal-themed TV shows. Quite busy.
    • If you regard Dave as badass in the first place (which you should, because he has a third-degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do), his decline from "snarky but sociopolitically aware metal musician" to "racist, homophobic, bigoted, Conspiracy Theorist loudmouthed asshole" is very unnerving to witness.
  • Critical Dissonance: Cryptic Writings was hailed by many critics as the band's best album since Rust In Peace but garnered a mixed reception from fans, who saw the album as a further attempt at pandering to the mainstream. The album has been better received since the band started using those sorts of pop choruses in heavy songs (such as Never Walk Alone and 44 Minutess).
  • Dork Age: As said before, the period between Cryptic Writings until the band's reunion and The System Has Failed.
  • Ear Worm:
    • Insomniamniamniamniamniamniamniamnia
    • Fight, Fight, This Day We Fight, Fight, Fight, Fight, This Day We Fight!
    • Set the ball a-rollin, I'll be clicking off the miles, on the train of consequences, my boxcar life o' style...
    • Hello me, it's...me again...
    • Many solos qualify as this, especially those found throughout Endgame, which stay in your head for DAYS.
  • Epic Riff: "Holy Wars... The Punishment Due", "Hangar 18", "Symphony of Destruction", etc.
  • Epileptic Trees: One theory states that the title track to Countdown to Extinction is a Take That to James Hetfield who is well known as an avid hunter.
  • Fanon Discontinuity:
    • The end of Megadeth's most acclaimed period is Cryptic Writings, and people might stop there. Some people add The World Needs A Hero, but it has mostly been forgotten due to poor promotion. More still will add the post-2004 albums (The System Has Failed and onwards). The only general consensus is that Risk is the "worst" (read: least metal) of the thirteen albums, and many fans would rather it hadn't been released.
    • Or, if an album doesn't have ellipses in either the title or a song within it, it isn't canon. This of course means everything between Rust In Peace and The World Needs A Hero doesn't exist, so make of that what you will.
    • Alternatively, if your main issue with Megadeth is Dave Mustaine's changed mindset in recent years, and its influence on the band's music, just pretend their temporary breakup in 2002 was permanent.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Mention Megadeth to a Metallica fanboy and watch your hope for humanity start to dwindle.
    • Many Megadeth fans also appreciate Metallica, but this is not as often the case the other way round, because Metallica fans always feel the need to make comparisons.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff:
    • They're considered idols in Argentina. Megadeth themselves recorded a live album there as a recognition, called That One Night: Live In Buenos Aires.
    • During the band's performance of "Coming Home" from said live album, Mustaine announced to the Argentinian crowd that Megadeth will continue as a band.
    • They are also very popular in India, having performed twice in the last ten years.
  • Growing the Beard: Their most remembered era takes place in almost the entirety of The Nineties, more exactly, the time between Rust In Peace (1990) and Cryptic Writings, (1997) including both albums.
  • Internet Backdraft: Pretty much the metal community's reaction to Dave's endorsement of Rick Santorum, which is quite possibly the complete opposite of what you would expect from a Heavy Metal band.
  • Memetic Badass: Shawn Drover.
  • Memetic Mutation:
  • Mis-blamed: While people blame Executive Meddling for what became Risk, Dave has admitted in interviews that he's as much to blame for it as anyone else. As mentioned above, Cryptic Writings got the band increased mainstream attention (though not increased album sales), and Dave effectively decided "Hey outside songwriters! This mainstream attention thing is pretty cool....let's have some more of that please!" He also stated in his autobiography that Marty Friedman was getting tired of metal and itching to move to other styles, and some of the musical changes were done to appease him and keep him around long enough to complete the album. The result...was not quite what he (or anyone else) wanted.
  • Narm Charm:
    • The lyrics often end up like this, most notably on "Peace Sells". Not that that's a bad thing...
    • Especially the spoken word parts of "Sweating Bullets"
    • "Have Cool, Will Travel" in the Cryptic Writings remaster. The wheels on the bus go round and round— *Drowned out by loudass drums*
  • Nightmare Fuel: The lyrics for "Good Mourning/Black Friday", especially the latter song.
  • Tear Jerker: "A Tout Le Monde", a combined suicide note and heartfelt wish for the narrator's friends and family to go on with their lives and remember him fondly.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks:
    • Regarding Mustaine remixing and remastering all of the albums from Killing Is My Business... through Risk while he was recovering from the arm injury. While they have cleaner production, insightful liner notes, lots of pictures, and plenty of bonus tracks, the changes can be a bit disquieting from the originals. Generally, people will agree that the remasters of Killing Is My Business... and So Far, So Good...So What! improved those albums tremendously. Opinions are more sharply divided about the other albums.
      • The remaster of Rust In Peace has some of the most glaring changes. The master vocal tracks for "Take No Prisoners", "Five Magicks", "Lucretia", and "Rust in Peace...Polaris" were lost, forcing Mustaine to completely re-record the vocals for "Prisoners" and "Rust" and use B-take vocal tracks for the other two. Also, the bass for "Take No Prisoners" is much more pronounced in the mix and more bottom-heavy (which is a constant in all the remasters), which greatly mutes the short solo before the "Going to war, give 'em hell" section
      • Countdown to Extinction and Youthanasia have the drums sounding considerably muted as if the high frequencies have been filtered out. This is especially apparent by comparing the intro to "Skin O My Teeth" on both versions of Countdown.
      • Mustaine made numerous changes to Cryptic Writings as well. The most commonly cited ones are the removal of the "Needles And Pins" sample from the intro to "Use The Man", the addition of heavier guitars to "A Secret Place" (and pushing the sitar way back in the mix), new intros to "The Disintegrators" and "Have Cool Will Travel", and an additional guitar and no echo on the vocals on the chorus of "Almost Honest",. There are subtle other mixing differences; "Vortex"'s intro no longer fades in but starts cold, and "Almost Honest" has much better separation in the mix. It is said these were Mustaine did this to remove the pop elements and turn it into more of a metal album. Generally, fans like some of the changes and dislike some others. "Cryptic Writings" is not as popular as the band's other albums nor is it as notorious as "Risk", so it enjoys a cult fandom.
    • Dave himself wanted to do further work on the really poorly-produced So Far, So Good...So What!, but invoked this trope as a justification: he had been pissed off by Jimmy Page's remastering of Led Zeppelin albums that took out all the superfluous squeaks and details. Ironic, since later remasters removed several of those.
    • The band's new album, Super Collider, seems to be getting this reaction so far due to its more rock-oriented sound.
  • Tough Act to Follow:
    • Endgame is sometimes considered by fans to be one of Megadeth's best albums, while TH1RT3EN is heavily YMMV in comparison to it.
    • A much earlier example is Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?, which was followed by the rushed So Far, So Good...So What?.
  • We're Still Relevant, Dammit: 2001's The World Needs A Hero is, unfortunately, a textbook example of this. The album was hyped as a "return to form" for the band after 1999's blatantly commercial Risk bombed both critically and commercially. Unfortunately, critics and fans almost unanimously agreed that the album failed to live up to this promise. Perhaps most telling of the band's desperation at this point: the album contained a sequel to the classic "Hangar 18" that wasn't nearly as good as the original.


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