YMMV: Live

  • Broken Base: A lot of the fans didn't take the change to a lighter, fluffier sound in the early 2000s too well. Around this time, the band was becoming creatively stagnant. Ed Kowalczyk took over most of the song-writing process, often writing material the other band members felt was too tame. Ed's turn to Christianity - which reflects heavily in his lyrics - was also somewhat controversial, as he had earlier seemed critical of organized religion. Many of the older fans stopped listening after The Distance to Here, while the softer, safer sound actually attracted some new fans who felt the early material was too dark. With the band's overly toxic split, the fans found themselves having to take sides and choose whose version to belive. Nowadays the fanbase is split into "Fans of Live" - who welcome Chris Shinn as the new frontman and feel he's brought a new energy to the music, and "Fans of Ed" - who don't.
  • Narm:
    • Live tends toward Narm even at their best, but "The Dolphin's Cry" takes the award. Aside from the title, the song features lines such as these:
    "We are lost till we are found
    This phoenix rises up from the ground."
    • The video for "I Alone", which features the group dancing around and miming playing their instruments against weird backgrounds. It doesn't help that Chad Gracey didn't even have an instrument to mime playing (Beavis And Butthead figured he was being punished for forgetting to bring his drum set to the video shoot). Whatever effect they were going for, it just looks goofy.
    • "Freaks" has the line "You know your sperm is weak", as well as that odd moment before the last chorus where Ed Kowalczyk starts growling "Labor-labor-labor-labor-la...".
      • The second verse of the song begins with this: "If the mother goes to bed with you, will you run and tell the papers how she picked you from a line up in downtown Philadelphia with a cigarette hangin' out of your mouth and Henry Miller in your back pocket?" The second half of that lyric is sung in Motor Mouth fashion, and it's like that in the verses. And immediately after that, Ed goes "You little fucker!"
    • From "Lightning Crashes": "Her placenta falls to the floor."
    • From "Lakini's Juice": "I rushed [to] the ladies room, took the water from the toilet, washed her feet and blessed her name." Symbolic or not, that's just funny. Also, was there no sink in that ladies room, dude? Gross!
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Many of their fans felt like this after the release of V, which saw Live moving away from the hard rock sound they were known for. While the reformation of the band - with Chris Shinn as their new lead singer - has been mostly positively received, there is also a vocal minority which feels they shouldn't call themselves "Live" anymore, as they feel it's not the same band without Ed Kowalczyk's input.