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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXOgMVOHe0 This]] video where Cornette was asked about ''NXT''. Surprise: He doesn't like ''NXT'' either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later significantly softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment. He has also gone on record saying he expects NXT to overtake AEW in ratings when the two compete on Wednesday nights given the quality of the products[[note]]Cornette went back to hating NXT again during the period between 2021-2022 after Triple H was turfed and NXT became "NXT 2.0", turning into (in his words) "''Raw'' with a bunch of middle schoolers". NXT is no longer running head to head with ''Dynamite'', having been moved to Tuesdays back in 2021.[[/note]]
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXOgMVOHe0 This]] video where Cornette was asked about ''NXT''. Surprise: He doesn't like ''NXT'' either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later significantly softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment. He has also gone on record saying he expects NXT to overtake AEW in ratings when the two compete on Wednesday nights given the quality of the products[[note]]Cornette went back to hating NXT again during the period between 2021-2022 after Triple H was turfed and NXT became "NXT 2.0", turning into (in his words) "''Raw'' with a bunch of middle schoolers". NXT is no longer running head to head with ''Dynamite'', having been moved to Tuesdays back in 2021. Then Cornette went back to liking it after Triple H came back and the 2.0 gimmick was dropped entirely.[[/note]]
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** He implied Wrestling/{{AAA}} was going in the wrong direction for years, but spent ''four minutes'' trashing on ''Wrestling/LuchaUnderground'', and everyone lost their minds. Perhaps because it was unexpected; he gave Lucha Libre USA his seal of approval (expecting it to fail, oops). Plus, he is a big fan of famed Mexican ''luchadores'' such as Wrestling/ElSanto, Perro Aguayo (not Jr.) and Gran Hamada (plus Ayako), so it was expected he'd ''at least'' like the matches. The fact that he also sees nothing wrong with dropping massive spoilers about upcoming twists without so much as a warning doesn't help matters, especially as ''LU'' (which is taped weeks or months in advance) already has a massive problem with spoilers. Adding insult to injury, some of the spoilers for things complained about turned out to be inaccurate and misleading, meaning he was [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch criticizing the show without even watching it]] and getting it wrong while doing so.[[note]]He specifically called the show out for supposedly having [[ActionGirl Sexy Star]] beat [[TheDreaded the unstoppable Monster Matanza]] for the Lucha Underground championship, lambasting them for ruining their WrestlingMonster by having him lose to a girl ''nobody'' would plausibly believe could beat him. Except Sexy ''didn't'' beat Matanza; Matanza's title was on the line in Aztec Warfare III, a battle royal-type affair where half a dozen wrestlers teamed up against him and he was ''actually'' eliminated by Wrestling/ReyMysterioJr, who Matanza promptly brutalised in revenge in order to retain his heat. Sexy ''did'' end up with the belt by finally eliminating the show's ''other'' big monster Mil Muertes, which some people admittedly took issue with, but the match was convincingly booked to support Sexy's win, and either way Jim's complaints that "they had a literal [[ImAHumanitarian man-eating monster]] lose to a little girl!" were ''miles'' off the mark, not to mention blatantly sexist.[[/note]]
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** He implied Wrestling/{{AAA}} was going in the wrong direction for years, but spent ''four minutes'' trashing on ''Wrestling/LuchaUnderground'', and everyone lost their minds. Perhaps because it was unexpected; he gave Lucha Libre USA his seal of approval (expecting it to fail, oops).which it did after 3 years). Plus, he is a big fan of famed Mexican ''luchadores'' such as Wrestling/ElSanto, Perro Aguayo (not Jr.) and Gran Hamada (plus Ayako), so it was expected he'd ''at least'' like the matches. The fact that he also sees nothing wrong with dropping massive spoilers about upcoming twists without so much as a warning doesn't help matters, especially as ''LU'' (which is taped weeks or months in advance) already has a massive problem with spoilers. Adding insult to injury, some of the spoilers for things complained about turned out to be inaccurate and misleading, meaning he was [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch criticizing the show without even watching it]] and getting it wrong while doing so.[[note]]He specifically called the show out for supposedly having [[ActionGirl Sexy Star]] beat [[TheDreaded the unstoppable Monster Matanza]] for the Lucha Underground championship, lambasting them for ruining their WrestlingMonster by having him lose to a girl ''nobody'' would plausibly believe could beat him. Except Sexy ''didn't'' beat Matanza; Matanza's title was on the line in Aztec Warfare III, a battle royal-type affair where half a dozen wrestlers teamed up against him and he was ''actually'' eliminated by Wrestling/ReyMysterioJr, who Matanza promptly brutalised in revenge in order to retain his heat. Sexy ''did'' end up with the belt by finally eliminating the show's ''other'' big monster Mil Muertes, which some people admittedly took issue with, but the match was convincingly booked to support Sexy's win, and either way Jim's complaints that "they had a literal [[ImAHumanitarian man-eating monster]] lose to a little girl!" were ''miles'' off the mark, not to mention blatantly sexist.[[/note]]
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* MemeticBadass: Stephen P. New, Jim's RealLife lawyer (and the guy who advertises his law office on Wrestling/{{MLW}} Fusion) who he regularly puts over on his podcast. He even gave him a theme song (namely the old World Class intro theme with new Stephen P. New lyrics)[[note]]For those curious: "Call Steven P. New... If you need to sue... An outlaw mudshow for two... We'll sue their ass!"[[/note]].
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* MemeticBadass: Stephen P. New, Jim's RealLife lawyer (and the guy who advertises his law office on Wrestling/{{MLW}} Fusion) who he regularly puts over on his podcast. He even gave him a theme song (namely the old World Class intro theme with new Stephen P. New lyrics)[[note]]For lyrics).[[note]]For those curious: "Call Steven P. New... If you need to sue... An outlaw mudshow for two... We'll sue their ass!"[[/note]].ass!"[[/note]] Taken to a whole new level when he was revealed to be none other than the lawyer representing Wrestling/CMPunk and Ace Steel in their lawsuit over Brawl Out.
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** Cornette's legacy is as one of the all time great managers/personalities but not as a creative mind, as in that regard he's considered to be firmly stuck in the past. In Smoky Mountain Wrestling he had to be told why allowing Wrestling/LanceStorm and Wrestling/ChrisJericho to use the same finishing move as The Rock N'Roll Express was a bad thing (he understood why matches shouldn't be too repetitive well enough but was still of the 'this sort of gimmick means these sorts of moves' mindset) while at the same time he criticized Storm and Jericho for refusing to sleep with the [[AllWomenAreLustful rats]] (it ''will'' get business up, but attitudes towards sex had changed). His return as an onscreen authority in Anthem's Impact won over some of his most vocal critics, but no one was surprised to hear he left over a show changing locations, although it was revealed later that it had more to do with legal issues on Cornette's part.[[note]]Namely, the show that changed locations didn't much move to another city as to move to another ''country'', as it was moved to Ottawa, ON, and thanks to various legal troubles during the territory days, Cornette isn't allowed in Canada.[[/note]]
** Fans were [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain never comfortable]] with Cornette's racially charged remarks, especially not his occasional outright racist joke or use of ethnic slurs, but in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s this got him "good heat". Fans in arenas [[TorchesAndPitchforks wanted to kill him]], [[MoralGuardians news sources]] vilified him, fans expressed contempt for the wrestlers he managed doing nothing to keep him in check; it ultimately made money. [[SevenYearRule Recycling that same material]] as a commentator on a 2019 episode of NWA's ''Power'' show instead got "bad heat" on the show and made him lose his job. (Some people blamed the NWA for simply not editing a joke out of a pre.taped show and accused them of using Cornette as TheScapegoat, but most fans took Cornette's resignation as an acceptable apology.)
** Cornette's legacy is as one of the all time great managers/personalities but not as a creative mind, as in that regard he's considered to be firmly stuck in the past. In Smoky Mountain Wrestling he had to be told why allowing Wrestling/LanceStorm and Wrestling/ChrisJericho to use the same finishing move as The Rock N'Roll Express was a bad thing (he understood why matches shouldn't be too repetitive well enough but was still of the 'this sort of gimmick means these sorts of moves' mindset) while at the same time he criticized Storm and Jericho for refusing to sleep with the [[AllWomenAreLustful rats]] (it ''will'' get business up, but attitudes towards sex had changed). His return as an onscreen authority in Anthem's Impact won over some of his most vocal critics, but no one was surprised to hear he left over a show changing locations, although it was revealed later that it had more to do with legal issues on Cornette's part.[[note]]Namely, the show that changed locations didn't much move to another city as to move to another ''country'', as it was moved to Ottawa, ON, and thanks to various legal troubles during the territory days, Cornette isn't allowed in Canada.[[/note]]
** Fans were [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain never comfortable]] with Cornette's racially charged remarks, especially not his occasional outright racist joke or use of ethnic slurs, but in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s this got him "good heat". Fans in arenas [[TorchesAndPitchforks wanted to kill him]], [[MoralGuardians news sources]] vilified him, fans expressed contempt for the wrestlers he managed doing nothing to keep him in check; it ultimately made money. [[SevenYearRule Recycling that same material]] as a commentator on a 2019 episode of NWA's ''Power'' show instead got "bad heat" on the show and made him lose his job. (Some people blamed the NWA for simply not editing a joke out of a pre.taped show and accused them of using Cornette as TheScapegoat, but most fans took Cornette's resignation as an acceptable apology.)
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** Fans were [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain never comfortable]] with Cornette's racially charged remarks, especially not his occasional outright racist joke or use of ethnic slurs, but in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s this got him "good heat". Fans in arenas [[TorchesAndPitchforks wanted to kill him]], [[MoralGuardians news sources]] vilified him, fans expressed contempt for the wrestlers he managed doing nothing to keep him in check; it ultimately made money. [[SevenYearRule Recycling that same material]] as a commentator on a 2019 episode of NWA's ''Power'' show instead got "bad heat" on the show and made him lose his job. (Some people blamed the NWA for simply not editing a joke out of a pre.taped show and accused them of using Cornette as TheScapegoat, but most fans took Cornette's resignation as an acceptable apology.)
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** For that matter, some people think that his whole feud with Omega is a WorkedShoot, while others believe (and Cornette himself insists) that it is absolutely real, stemming from differing wrestling philosophies and a particular incident between Omega and Cornette.[[note]]Omega no-showed a major ROH show in favor of working in Japan, and Cornette, who worked in ROH at the time, has never forgiven him for it. Beyond that, and more seriously for Jim, Omega has wrestled a literal child and a blow up sex-doll in joke matches.[[/note]]
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** For that matter, some people think that his whole feud with Omega is a WorkedShoot, while others believe (and Cornette himself insists) that it is absolutely real, stemming from differing wrestling philosophies and a particular incident between Omega and Cornette.[[note]]Omega no-showed a major ROH show in favor of working in Japan, and Cornette, who worked in ROH at the time, has never forgiven him for it. Beyond that, and more seriously for Jim, Omega has wrestled a literal child and a blow up sex-doll in joke matches.matches, and they've seen had a few exchanges on Twitter (including Omega blaming Cornette for a fan that rushed the ring during an AEW show, even though anyone with an even passing knowledge of wrestling knows Cornette is the absolute ''last'' person that would encourage that) that have further increased the hostility.[[/note]]
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* NeverLiveItDown: Cornette is usually credited with discovering Matt Morgan, who is not considered a great wrestler. Morgan was pushed to win the OVW title before his WWE runs. After his failed WWE runs, Jim still vouched Morgan, which lead to his TNA runs.
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** Cornette is usually credited with discovering Matt Morgan, who is not considered a great wrestler. Morgan was pushed to win the OVW title before his WWE runs. After his failed WWE runs, Jim still vouched Morgan, which lead to his TNAruns.runs.
** One the opposite end, if you mention Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis in Cornette's presence Cornette will without fail remind anyone listening that Laurinaitis once signed the wrong one-legged wrestler to a contract.
** Cornette is usually credited with discovering Matt Morgan, who is not considered a great wrestler. Morgan was pushed to win the OVW title before his WWE runs. After his failed WWE runs, Jim still vouched Morgan, which lead to his TNA
** One the opposite end, if you mention Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis in Cornette's presence Cornette will without fail remind anyone listening that Laurinaitis once signed the wrong one-legged wrestler to a contract.
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** Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/KevinSteen and Wrestling/SamiZayn. Whether he likes them personally or not, he still had the vision to push all three.
** Cornette's time in ROH, hated as it was by the fan base, still brought the company its highest turnouts and buy rates up to that point, ultimately playing a key role in saving a company that was in rough straits after losing founder and distributor Rob Feinstein, other founder and booker Gabe Sapolsky and many of its most popular wrestlers. Yes, ROH continued to slowly grow after Cornette left but that lends credence to Cornette's claim that Delirious knew what he was doing and that the Japanese champions were worth booking(though in the latter case it was management, as most ROH fans always agreed with him regarding the [[Wrestling/ProWrestlingNOAH NOAH]] guys). When the combined pressure of Impact, All Elite and WWE saw ROH backsliding during the late 2010s more fans came to acknowledge Sinclair mismanagement was mostly to blame, especially after Joey Matthews ended up having nearly the exact same meltdown Cornette did. Furthermore, any criticism people had of Cornette's time on the booking team ended up paling in comparison to that of [[Wrestling/TheDudleyBoys Bully Ray]]'s. Some people even jokingly asked Cornette to save the company again.
** Cornette's time in ROH, hated as it was by the fan base, still brought the company its highest turnouts and buy rates up to that point, ultimately playing a key role in saving a company that was in rough straits after losing founder and distributor Rob Feinstein, other founder and booker Gabe Sapolsky and many of its most popular wrestlers. Yes, ROH continued to slowly grow after Cornette left but that lends credence to Cornette's claim that Delirious knew what he was doing and that the Japanese champions were worth booking(though in the latter case it was management, as most ROH fans always agreed with him regarding the [[Wrestling/ProWrestlingNOAH NOAH]] guys). When the combined pressure of Impact, All Elite and WWE saw ROH backsliding during the late 2010s more fans came to acknowledge Sinclair mismanagement was mostly to blame, especially after Joey Matthews ended up having nearly the exact same meltdown Cornette did. Furthermore, any criticism people had of Cornette's time on the booking team ended up paling in comparison to that of [[Wrestling/TheDudleyBoys Bully Ray]]'s. Some people even jokingly asked Cornette to save the company again.
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** Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/KevinSteen and Wrestling/SamiZayn. Whether he likes them personally or not, he still had the vision to push all three.
three. Cornette himself points out that in the latter two cases, his primary criticisms of both of them (feeling Steen should lose a bit of weight and Zayn should take off the mask and leave the silly "El Generico" gimmick behind) turned out to be more-or-less what they did in their now wildly successful [=WWE=] careers.
** Cornette's time in ROH, hated as it was by the fan base, still brought the company its highest turnouts and buy rates up to that point, ultimately playing a key role in saving a company that was in rough straits after losing founder and distributor Rob Feinstein, other founder and booker Gabe Sapolsky and many of its most popular wrestlers. Yes, ROH continued to slowly grow after Cornette left but that lends credence to Cornette's claim that Delirious knew what he was doing and that the Japanese champions were worthbooking(though booking (though in the latter case it was management, as most ROH fans always agreed with him regarding the [[Wrestling/ProWrestlingNOAH NOAH]] guys). When the combined pressure of Impact, All Elite and WWE saw ROH backsliding during the late 2010s more fans came to acknowledge Sinclair mismanagement was mostly to blame, especially after Joey Matthews ended up having nearly the exact same meltdown Cornette did. Furthermore, any criticism people had of Cornette's time on the booking team ended up paling in comparison to that of [[Wrestling/TheDudleyBoys Bully Ray]]'s. Some people even jokingly asked Cornette to save the company again.
** Cornette's time in ROH, hated as it was by the fan base, still brought the company its highest turnouts and buy rates up to that point, ultimately playing a key role in saving a company that was in rough straits after losing founder and distributor Rob Feinstein, other founder and booker Gabe Sapolsky and many of its most popular wrestlers. Yes, ROH continued to slowly grow after Cornette left but that lends credence to Cornette's claim that Delirious knew what he was doing and that the Japanese champions were worth
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** After his managerial career pretty much ended, he became available for interviews and did a lot of shoots where he praised Wrestling/KurtAngle, [[Wrestling/HunterJohnston Delirious]], Wrestling/DLoBrown, Wrestling/ValVenis, Wrestling/BookerT, Dutch Mantel, Wrestling/SamoaJoe, Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/SheltonBenjamin, Wrestling/JimRoss, [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]], Les Thatcher, Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin, Wrestling/MickFoley, Wrestling/{{Abyss}}, Wrestling/NigelMcGuinness, [[Wrestling/NelsonErazo Homicide]], Savio Vega, Wrestling/KentaKobashi, Wrestling/KentaKobayashi, Wrestling/JayLethal, Filthy Tom Lawlor and many others for their work. Now try to find clips of any of that on Website/YouTube. Even if you can it is likely buried in a sea of rants about people he doesn't like. People really prefer his angry rants, it seems. ''The Drunken Peasants'' admit to bringing him onto their show just to hear him bash WWE.
** Cornette himself, whenever he positively reviews a modern wrestling match - be it the work of the Revival, Tyler Bate, Pete Dunne, Wrestling/BobbyRoode, various British independents, Jacob Fatu, Josef Samael, Simon Gotch, Wrestling/AdamCole, Wrestling/TessaBlanchard, Brian Pillman Jr, Alexander Hammerstone, Salina de la Renta, Jungle Boy, Wrestling/MaxwellJacobFriedman, Marshal and Ross Wrestling/{{Von Erich|Family}}, Wrestling/{{WALTER}}, Wrestling/TommasoCiampa[[labelnote:*]]Though he lost respect for him after discovering that he took part in Wrestling/ChuckTaylor's invisible grenade spot. But appears to have since gotten over it.[[/labelnote]], Ricky Starks, or Rhea Ripley jokingly laments the fact that it never becomes news when he likes something, only when he eviscerates it.
** Cornette at one point announced, having gotten sick of the product, that he would no longer discuss AEW's weekly television on his podcast, only to see his viewership numbers drop dramatically. Only a few weeks later, Cornette read a letter from a fan (heavily implied to be something Jim wrote himself) begging him to apply his expert knowledge to continue mocking AEW and its wrestlers, at which point he announced he would resume reviewing AEW's weekly TV. Viewership numbers quickly returned to normal.
** After his managerial career pretty much ended, he became available for interviews and did a lot of shoots where he praised Wrestling/KurtAngle, [[Wrestling/HunterJohnston Delirious]], Wrestling/DLoBrown, Wrestling/ValVenis, Wrestling/BookerT, Dutch Mantel, Wrestling/SamoaJoe, Wrestling/JohnCena, Wrestling/SheltonBenjamin, Wrestling/JimRoss, [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]], Les Thatcher, Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin, Wrestling/MickFoley, Wrestling/{{Abyss}}, Wrestling/NigelMcGuinness, [[Wrestling/NelsonErazo Homicide]], Savio Vega, Wrestling/KentaKobashi, Wrestling/KentaKobayashi, Wrestling/JayLethal, Filthy Tom Lawlor and many others for their work. Now try to find clips of any of that on Website/YouTube. Even if you can it is likely buried in a sea of rants about people he doesn't like. People really prefer his angry rants, it seems. ''The Drunken Peasants'' admit to bringing him onto their show just to hear him bash WWE.
** Cornette himself, whenever he positively reviews a modern wrestling match - be it the work of the Revival, Tyler Bate, Pete Dunne, Wrestling/BobbyRoode, various British independents, Jacob Fatu, Josef Samael, Simon Gotch, Wrestling/AdamCole, Wrestling/TessaBlanchard, Brian Pillman Jr, Alexander Hammerstone, Salina de la Renta, Jungle Boy, Wrestling/MaxwellJacobFriedman, Marshal and Ross Wrestling/{{Von Erich|Family}}, Wrestling/{{WALTER}}, Wrestling/TommasoCiampa[[labelnote:*]]Though he lost respect for him after discovering that he took part in Wrestling/ChuckTaylor's invisible grenade spot. But appears to have since gotten over it.[[/labelnote]], Ricky Starks, or Rhea Ripley jokingly laments the fact that it never becomes news when he likes something, only when he eviscerates it.
** Cornette at one point announced, having gotten sick of the product, that he would no longer discuss AEW's weekly television on his podcast, only to see his viewership numbers drop dramatically. Only a few weeks later, Cornette read a letter from a fan (heavily implied to be something Jim wrote himself) begging him to apply his expert knowledge to continue mocking AEW and its wrestlers, at which point he announced he would resume reviewing AEW's weekly TV. Viewership numbers quickly returned to normal.
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** In 2023, images stared circulating online [[https://twitter.com/Luca_Rusconi/status/1633085696490500096?s=20 showing]] Jim in suits almost identical to ''Anime/LupinIII''. It wasn't a deliberate homage on either side either, Jim simply managed to put together outfits so bizarre that he looked like a deliberately ostentatious anime protagonist.
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** In 2023, images stared circulating online [[https://twitter.com/Luca_Rusconi/status/1633085696490500096?s=20 showing]] old pictures of Jim in suits almost identical to ''Anime/LupinIII''. It wasn't a deliberate homage on either side either, Jim simply managed to put together outfits so bizarre that he looked like a deliberately ostentatious anime protagonist.
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** In 2023, images stared circulating online showing Jim in suits almost identical to ''Anime/LupinIII''. It wasn't a deliberate homage on either side either, Jim simply managed to put together outfits so bizarre that he looked like a deliberately ostentatious anime protagonist.
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** In 2023, images stared circulating online showing [[https://twitter.com/Luca_Rusconi/status/1633085696490500096?s=20 showing]] Jim in suits almost identical to ''Anime/LupinIII''. It wasn't a deliberate homage on either side either, Jim simply managed to put together outfits so bizarre that he looked like a deliberately ostentatious anime protagonist.
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** In 2023, images stared circulating online showing Jim in suits almost identical to ''Anime/LupinIII''. It wasn't a deliberate homage on either side either, Jim simply managed to put together outfits so bizarre that he looked like a deliberately ostentatious anime protagonist.
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** When he dissed Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Wrestling/KevinNash, Wrestling/HulkHogan, Wrestling/VinceRusso, Wrestling/{{Sable}}, Wrestling/NewJack, Wrestling/{{Chyna}}, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, Wrestling/BrockLesnar, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/TheMiz, Wrestling/LowKi, Wrestling/AustinAries, [[Wrestling/EnzoAndCass Enzo Amore]]? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. But when he dissed Wrestling/ColtCabana, Wrestling/KevinSteen, [[Wrestling/SamiZayn El Generico]], Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/JoeyRyan[[note]]in which case Jim finds his views on him pretty much VindicatedByHistory in the wake of his fall of grace following several sexual misconduct accusations[[/note]], and Wrestling/KennyOmega? It was... ''way'' less well received, to say the least.
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** When he dissed Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Wrestling/KevinNash, Wrestling/HulkHogan, Wrestling/VinceRusso, Wrestling/{{Sable}}, Wrestling/NewJack, Wrestling/{{Chyna}}, Wrestling/UltimateWarrior, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, Wrestling/BrockLesnar, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/TheMiz, Wrestling/LowKi, Wrestling/AustinAries, [[Wrestling/EnzoAndCass Enzo Amore]]? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. But when he dissed Wrestling/ColtCabana, Wrestling/KevinSteen, [[Wrestling/SamiZayn El Generico]], Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/JoeyRyan[[note]]in which case Jim finds his views on him pretty much VindicatedByHistory in the wake of his fall of grace following several sexual misconduct accusations[[/note]], and Wrestling/KennyOmega? It was... ''way'' less well received, to say the least.
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** Anytime he goes off about {{Wrestling/Vince Russo}} is definitely worth a few laughs; it takes a man with a special sense of humor to make talking about [[LastDisrespects pissing on a man's grave]] ''hilarious''. [[https://youtu.be/n56bmwwHiH0?t=249 This segment]] of the You-Shoot interview with Sean Oliver is one of numerous examples.
** His rant about [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW's]] Woman's Tournament in the 367th episode of his ''The Jim Cornette Experience'' podcast. It might come off to some as [[CausticCritic Jim being Jim]], until this exchange with Brian Last (his co-host) pushes it straight into comedic absurdity:
** His rant about [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW's]] Woman's Tournament in the 367th episode of his ''The Jim Cornette Experience'' podcast. It might come off to some as [[CausticCritic Jim being Jim]], until this exchange with Brian Last (his co-host) pushes it straight into comedic absurdity:
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** Anytime he goes off about {{Wrestling/Vince Russo}} Wrestling/VinceRusso is definitely worth a few laughs; it takes a man with a special sense of humor to make talking about [[LastDisrespects pissing on a man's grave]] ''hilarious''. [[https://youtu.be/n56bmwwHiH0?t=249 This segment]] of the You-Shoot interview with Sean Oliver is one of numerous examples.
** His rant about [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW's]] Woman's Tournament inthe 367th episode Episode 367 of his ''The Jim Cornette Experience'' podcast. It might come off to some as [[CausticCritic Jim being Jim]], until this exchange with Brian Last (his co-host) pushes it straight into comedic absurdity:
** His rant about [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW's]] Woman's Tournament in
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXOgMVOHe0 This]] video where Cornette was asked about ''NXT''. Surprise: He doesn't like ''NXT'' either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later significantly softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment. He has also gone on record saying he expects NXT to overtake AEW in ratings when the two compete on Wednesday nights given the quality of the products[[note]]In 2021-2022 Cornette went back to hating NXT again after Triple H was turfed and NXT became "NXT 2.0", turning into (in his words) "''Raw'' with a bunch of middle schoolers". NXT is no longer running head to head with ''Dynamite'', having been moved to Tuesdays back in 2021.[[/note]]
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXOgMVOHe0 This]] video where Cornette was asked about ''NXT''. Surprise: He doesn't like ''NXT'' either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later significantly softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment. He has also gone on record saying he expects NXT to overtake AEW in ratings when the two compete on Wednesday nights given the quality of the products[[note]]In 2021-2022 Cornette products[[note]]Cornette went back to hating NXT again during the period between 2021-2022 after Triple H was turfed and NXT became "NXT 2.0", turning into (in his words) "''Raw'' with a bunch of middle schoolers". NXT is no longer running head to head with ''Dynamite'', having been moved to Tuesdays back in 2021.[[/note]]
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**His rant about [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW's]] Woman's Tournament in the 367th episode of his ''The Jim Cornette Experience'' podcast. It might come off to some as [[CausticCritic Jim being Jim]], until this exchange with Brian Last (his co-host) pushes it straight into comedic absurdity:
--> '''Brian:''' You say fetish like he's... I mean, he's not really into ''women.''
--> '''Jim:''' Well, then, what the fuck are we doin' here, talkin' about Japanese fuckin' tournament matches?!
--> '''Brian:''' [[DevilsAdvocate He likes Japanese women's wrestling! I wouldn't say that's a... fetish.]]
--> '''Jim:''' *grumbles* Then he oughta BE a Japanese women's wrestler!
--> '''Brian:''' *pause* ...he kinda IS! *corpses*
--> '''Brian:''' You say fetish like he's... I mean, he's not really into ''women.''
--> '''Jim:''' Well, then, what the fuck are we doin' here, talkin' about Japanese fuckin' tournament matches?!
--> '''Brian:''' [[DevilsAdvocate He likes Japanese women's wrestling! I wouldn't say that's a... fetish.]]
--> '''Jim:''' *grumbles* Then he oughta BE a Japanese women's wrestler!
--> '''Brian:''' *pause* ...he kinda IS! *corpses*
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Jim is well known for his over-the-top sense of humor and remarks, as the link I posted in the edit shows, so I figured this was a good addition to the page
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Some of the quips and remarks he says are just so over the top, that it's nigh-impossible not to crack up at them. This is ''especially'' prevalent in his shoot interviews and on his podcasts. To wit:
** Anytime he goes off about {{Wrestling/Vince Russo}} is definitely worth a few laughs; it takes a man with a special sense of humor to make talking about [[LastDisrespects pissing on a man's grave]] ''hilarious''. [[https://youtu.be/n56bmwwHiH0?t=249 This segment]] of the You-Shoot interview with Sean Oliver is one of numerous examples.
** Anytime he goes off about {{Wrestling/Vince Russo}} is definitely worth a few laughs; it takes a man with a special sense of humor to make talking about [[LastDisrespects pissing on a man's grave]] ''hilarious''. [[https://youtu.be/n56bmwwHiH0?t=249 This segment]] of the You-Shoot interview with Sean Oliver is one of numerous examples.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXOgMVOHe0 This]] video where Cornette was asked about ''NXT''. Surprise: He doesn't like ''NXT'' either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later significantly softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment. He has also gone on record saying he expects NXT to overtake AEW in ratings when the two compete on Wednesday nights given the quality of the products[[note]]As of mid-2022 Cornette is back to hating NXT again after Triple H was turfed and NXT became "NXT 2.0", turning into (in his words) "''Raw'' with a bunch of middle schoolers". NXT is no longer running head to head with ''Dynamite'', having been moved to Tuesdays back in 2021[[/note]].
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXOgMVOHe0 This]] video where Cornette was asked about ''NXT''. Surprise: He doesn't like ''NXT'' either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later significantly softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment. He has also gone on record saying he expects NXT to overtake AEW in ratings when the two compete on Wednesday nights given the quality of the products[[note]]As of mid-2022 products[[note]]In 2021-2022 Cornette is went back to hating NXT again after Triple H was turfed and NXT became "NXT 2.0", turning into (in his words) "''Raw'' with a bunch of middle schoolers". NXT is no longer running head to head with ''Dynamite'', having been moved to Tuesdays back in 2021[[/note]].2021.[[/note]]
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*** Riho. He considers her an non-credible champion for being even smaller than any woman he ever let win a belt, doing nothing with her look to detract from that and winning the belt against a much bigger and stronger woman billed as a "beast" in a match that saw them go [[WaifFu 50-50]] as [[WrestlingPsychology opposed to]] a tree chop/[[HeroicResolve mountain climb]] struggle on Riho's part. Cornette even upped the ante when Nyla Rose started acting like a [[TheGiant Giant]]/[[WrestlingMonster Monster]] ''[[MoodWhiplash after]]'' losing and Riho had to be saved by ''Kenny Omega'', alleging that Riho only won the AEW Women's title because she was sleeping with Kenny Omega (an unproven claim). Cornette was also under [[{{Misblamed}} the mistaken impression]] that Riho, a staple of Ice Ribbon where girls are the target audience, was Haruka, a part of a comedy angle that went nowhere in the more general audience and {{fanservice}} catering World Wonder Ring STARDOM; namely, Haruka was the little girl Omega infamously wrestled against[[note]]Not to be confused with Hikaru Shida, a full grown adult that works in the AEW women's division[[/note]].
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*** Riho. He considers her an non-credible champion for being even smaller than any woman he ever let win a belt, doing nothing with her look to detract from that and winning the belt against a much bigger and stronger woman billed as a "beast" in a match that saw them go [[WaifFu 50-50]] as [[WrestlingPsychology opposed to]] a tree chop/[[HeroicResolve mountain climb]] struggle on Riho's part. Cornette even upped the ante when Nyla Rose started acting like a [[TheGiant Giant]]/[[WrestlingMonster Monster]] ''[[MoodWhiplash after]]'' losing and Riho had to be saved by ''Kenny Omega'', alleging that Riho only won the AEW Women's title because she was sleeping with Kenny Omega (an unproven claim). Cornette was also under [[{{Misblamed}} the mistaken impression]] that Riho, a staple of Ice Ribbon where girls are the target audience, was Haruka, a part of a comedy angle that went nowhere in the more general audience and {{fanservice}} catering World Wonder Ring STARDOM; namely, Haruka was the little girl Omega infamously wrestled against[[note]]Not against.[[note]]Not to be confused with Hikaru Shida, a full grown adult that works in the AEW women's division[[/note]].division.[[/note]]
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** Cornette's legacy is as one of the all time great managers/personalities but not as a creative mind, as in that regard he's considered to be firmly stuck in the past. In Smoky Mountain Wrestling he had to be told why allowing Wrestling/LanceStorm and Wrestling/ChrisJericho to use the same finishing move as The Rock N'Roll Express was a bad thing (he understood why matches shouldn't be too repetitive well enough but was still of the 'this sort of gimmick means these sorts of moves' mindset) while at the same time he criticized Storm and Jericho for refusing to sleep with the [[AllWomenAreLustful rats]] (it ''will'' get business up, but attitudes towards sex had changed). His return as an onscreen authority in Anthem's Impact won over some of his most vocal critics, but no one was surprised to hear he left over a show changing cities[[note]]More like changing countries, the show was moved to Ottawa, ON, thanks to various legal troubles during the territory days Cornette isn't allowed in Canada[[/note]].
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** Cornette's legacy is as one of the all time great managers/personalities but not as a creative mind, as in that regard he's considered to be firmly stuck in the past. In Smoky Mountain Wrestling he had to be told why allowing Wrestling/LanceStorm and Wrestling/ChrisJericho to use the same finishing move as The Rock N'Roll Express was a bad thing (he understood why matches shouldn't be too repetitive well enough but was still of the 'this sort of gimmick means these sorts of moves' mindset) while at the same time he criticized Storm and Jericho for refusing to sleep with the [[AllWomenAreLustful rats]] (it ''will'' get business up, but attitudes towards sex had changed). His return as an onscreen authority in Anthem's Impact won over some of his most vocal critics, but no one was surprised to hear he left over a show changing cities[[note]]More like changing countries, locations, although it was revealed later that it had more to do with legal issues on Cornette's part.[[note]]Namely, the show that changed locations didn't much move to another city as to move to another ''country'', as it was moved to Ottawa, ON, and thanks to various legal troubles during the territory days days, Cornette isn't allowed in Canada[[/note]].Canada.[[/note]]
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** At the time of Smoky Mountain's closing, he was viewed as whiny and unwilling to take responsibility. His competence as a promoter and in financial management looked better after the closing of ECW and WCW. Cornette at least paid off his debt while Paul Heyman admitted he'd have kept operating with a debt Smoky Mountain never came close to [[MoneyToThrowAway so long as ECW had distribution]].[[note]]According to Cornette ECW was such a money pit that if he had never made a single dime promoting SMW he still wouldn't have lost as much money as Paul Heyman did in ECW.[[/note]] Meanwhile, many involved with WCW, besides running Cornette and the Expresses off from the company twice, would play significant parts in stunting TNA's growth, and at least one person was so maligned he was basically banned from the business altogether. [[note]] Jim Herd [[/note]]
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** At the time of Smoky Mountain's closing, he was viewed as whiny and unwilling to take responsibility. His competence as a promoter and in financial management looked better after the closing of ECW and WCW. Cornette at least paid off his debt while Paul Heyman admitted he'd have kept operating with a debt Smoky Mountain never came close to [[MoneyToThrowAway so long as ECW had distribution]].[[note]]According to Cornette Cornette, ECW was such a money pit that if he had never made a single dime promoting SMW SMW, he still wouldn't have lost as much money as Paul Heyman did in ECW.[[/note]] Meanwhile, many involved with WCW, besides running Cornette and the Expresses off from the company twice, would play significant parts in stunting TNA's growth, and at least one person (Jim Herd) was so maligned he was basically banned from the business altogether. [[note]] Jim Herd [[/note]]
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The what? I don't see how this is a valid argument other than taking Cornette's word 100% at face value, and even then, the tone this example is written seems to just ask to attract Flame Bait.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: He responded to wrestling fans claiming that modern wrestling is more "diverse" than ever before by pointing out that in his day wrestling audiences were 50-60% female and stretched across every age and socioeconomic bracket; with significant, passionate Black and Latino audiences in the South. Meanwhile, present-day wrestling fandom has basically contracted to a small pool of children and jaded fifty-somethings for the WWE and white, male nerds between 18-35 for AEW.
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** When he dissed Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Wrestling/KevinNash, Wrestling/HulkHogan, Wrestling/VinceRusso, Wrestling/{{Sable}}, Wrestling/NewJack, Wrestling/{{Chyna}}, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, Wrestling/BrockLesnar, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/TheMiz, Wrestling/LowKi, Wrestling/AustinAries, [[Wrestling/EnzoAndCass Enzo Amore]]? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. But when he dissed Wrestling/ColtCabana, Wrestling/KevinSteen, [[Wrestling/SamiZayn El Generico]], Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/JoeyRyan[[note]]Pretty much Main/VindicatedByHistory on him[[/note]], and Wrestling/KennyOmega? It was... ''way'' less well received, to say the least.
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** When he dissed Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Wrestling/KevinNash, Wrestling/HulkHogan, Wrestling/VinceRusso, Wrestling/{{Sable}}, Wrestling/NewJack, Wrestling/{{Chyna}}, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, Wrestling/BrockLesnar, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/TheMiz, Wrestling/LowKi, Wrestling/AustinAries, [[Wrestling/EnzoAndCass Enzo Amore]]? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. But when he dissed Wrestling/ColtCabana, Wrestling/KevinSteen, [[Wrestling/SamiZayn El Generico]], Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/JoeyRyan[[note]]Pretty Wrestling/JoeyRyan[[note]]in which case Jim finds his views on him pretty much Main/VindicatedByHistory on him[[/note]], VindicatedByHistory in the wake of his fall of grace following several sexual misconduct accusations[[/note]], and Wrestling/KennyOmega? It was... ''way'' less well received, to say the least.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: When he betrayed the Dynamic Dudes in WCW in favor of the Midnight Express (as if that was surprising), he was cheered, despite the Dudes [[Main/XPacHeat supposedly being baby faces.]]
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* RootingForTheEmpire: When he betrayed the Dynamic Dudes in WCW in favor of the Midnight Express (as if that was surprising), he was cheered, despite the Dudes [[Main/XPacHeat [[XPacHeat supposedly being baby faces.]]
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** Believe it or not, he was one of several people (most notably Wrestling/MattHardy and Wrestling/{{Raven}}) being theorised as the [[GreaterScopeVillain "Exalted One"]] of the Dark Order in [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW]] (before ultimately being revealed to be [[Wrestling/LukeHarper Brodie Lee]]), despite the fact that he has repeatedly stated that he hates AEW and would never work for them[[note]]"Hates AEW" is overstating it a bit, after all he watches ''Dynamite'' every week and reviews it for his podcast, if he really '''hated''' AEW he wouldn't spend 2+ hours a week talking about it and giving them free promotion (and advice). That being said, he absolutely ''does'' hate [=EVPs=] Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks and while he doesn't hate AEW booker/CEO Tony Khan he definitely hates his booking. Regardless, Cornette has said on many occasions that he's not interested in any job that would require him to leave home regularly[[/note]], and that the Dark Order is a stupid gimmick that should never have seen the light of day, the reasoning being that's [[{{Kayfabe}} exactly what he would've said]] if he ''were'' about to debut on AEW.
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** Believe it or not, he was one of several people (most notably Wrestling/MattHardy and Wrestling/{{Raven}}) being theorised as the [[GreaterScopeVillain "Exalted One"]] of the Dark Order in [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW]] (before ultimately being revealed to be [[Wrestling/LukeHarper Brodie Lee]]), despite the fact that he has repeatedly stated that he hates AEW dislikes a large part of AEW's booking (to say ''the least'') and would never work for them[[note]]"Hates AEW" is overstating it a bit, after all he watches ''Dynamite'' every week them,[[note]] and reviews it for his podcast, if he really '''hated''' AEW he wouldn't spend 2+ hours a week talking about it and giving them free promotion (and advice). That being said, he absolutely ''does'' hate [=EVPs=] Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks and while he doesn't hate AEW booker/CEO Tony Khan he definitely hates his booking. Regardless, regardless, Cornette has said on many occasions that he's not interested in any job that would require him to leave home regularly[[/note]], regularly,[[/note]] and that the Dark Order is a stupid gimmick that should never have seen the light of day, the reasoning being that's [[{{Kayfabe}} exactly what he would've said]] if he ''were'' about to debut on AEW.
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** For that matter, some people think that his whole feud with Omega is a WorkedShoot, while others believe (and Cornette himself insists) that it is absolutely real, stemming from differing wrestling philosophies and a particular incident between Omega and Cornette.[[note]]Omega no-showed a major ROH show in favor of working in Japan, and Cornette, who worked in ROH at the time, has never forgiven him for it. Beyond that, and more serious for Jim, Omega wrestle a literal child, and a blow up sex-doll.[[/note]]
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** For that matter, some people think that his whole feud with Omega is a WorkedShoot, while others believe (and Cornette himself insists) that it is absolutely real, stemming from differing wrestling philosophies and a particular incident between Omega and Cornette.[[note]]Omega no-showed a major ROH show in favor of working in Japan, and Cornette, who worked in ROH at the time, has never forgiven him for it. Beyond that, and more serious seriously for Jim, Omega wrestle has wrestled a literal child, child and a blow up sex-doll.sex-doll in joke matches.[[/note]]
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** Believe it or not, he was one of several people (most notably Wrestling/MattHardy and Wrestling/{{Raven}}) being theorised as the [[GreaterScopeVillain "Exalted One"]] of the Dark Order in [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW]] (before ultimately being revealed to be [[Wrestling/LukeHarper Brodie Lee]]), despite the fact that he has repeatedly stated that he hates AEW and would never work for them, and that the Dark Order is a stupid gimmick that should never have seen the light of day, the reasoning being that's [[{{Kayfabe}} exactly what he would've said]] if he ''were'' about to debut on AEW.
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** Believe it or not, he was one of several people (most notably Wrestling/MattHardy and Wrestling/{{Raven}}) being theorised as the [[GreaterScopeVillain "Exalted One"]] of the Dark Order in [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW]] (before ultimately being revealed to be [[Wrestling/LukeHarper Brodie Lee]]), despite the fact that he has repeatedly stated that he hates AEW and would never work for them, them[[note]]"Hates AEW" is overstating it a bit, after all he watches ''Dynamite'' every week and reviews it for his podcast, if he really '''hated''' AEW he wouldn't spend 2+ hours a week talking about it and giving them free promotion (and advice). That being said, he absolutely ''does'' hate [=EVPs=] Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks and while he doesn't hate AEW booker/CEO Tony Khan he definitely hates his booking. Regardless, Cornette has said on many occasions that he's not interested in any job that would require him to leave home regularly[[/note]], and that the Dark Order is a stupid gimmick that should never have seen the light of day, the reasoning being that's [[{{Kayfabe}} exactly what he would've said]] if he ''were'' about to debut on AEW.
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** For that matter, some people think that his whole feud with Omega is a WorkedShoot, while others believe (and Cornette himself insists) that it is absolutely real, stemming from differing wrestling philosophies and a particular incident between Omega and Cornette.[[note]]Omega no-showed a major ROH show in favor of working in Japan, and Cornette, who worked in ROH at the time, has never forgiven him for it.[[/note]]
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** For that matter, some people think that his whole feud with Omega is a WorkedShoot, while others believe (and Cornette himself insists) that it is absolutely real, stemming from differing wrestling philosophies and a particular incident between Omega and Cornette.[[note]]Omega no-showed a major ROH show in favor of working in Japan, and Cornette, who worked in ROH at the time, has never forgiven him for it. Beyond that, and more serious for Jim, Omega wrestle a literal child, and a blow up sex-doll.[[/note]]
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* RootingForTheEmpire: When he betrayed the Dynamic Dudes in WCW in favor of the Midnight Express (as if that was surprising), he was cheered, despite the Dudes supposedly being baby faces.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: When he betrayed the Dynamic Dudes in WCW in favor of the Midnight Express (as if that was surprising), he was cheered, despite the Dudes [[Main/XPacHeat supposedly being baby faces.]]
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** "Laaaaaaaaaaaazy booking!" A phrase he throws around when a promotion book something that clearly has no thought put into it, like multi-man tornado tag matches with no disqualification stipulations. These type of matches are commonly [[SpotMonkey spot fests]] with no [[WrestlingPsychology psychology]] behind them, have no build up, do nothing to build feuds or promote teams in the longer term. Similar for "can they co-exist" booking the members in a feud as a tag-team to tease them imploding and fighting each other.
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** "Laaaaaaaaaaaazy booking!" A phrase he throws around when a promotion book something that clearly has no thought put into it, like multi-man tornado tag matches with no disqualification stipulations. These type of matches are commonly [[SpotMonkey spot fests]] with no [[WrestlingPsychology psychology]] behind them, have no build up, do nothing to build feuds or promote teams in the longer term. Similar for "can they co-exist" booking the members in a feud as a tag-team to tease them imploding and fighting each other. If you were to play Jim Cornette Catchphrase Bingo while listening to his podcast "Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy booking" would be the free center square.
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** When he dissed Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Wrestling/KevinNash, Wrestling/HulkHogan, Wrestling/VinceRusso, Wrestling/{{Sable}}, Wrestling/NewJack, Wrestling/{{Chyna}}, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, Wrestling/BrockLesnar, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/TheMiz, Wrestling/LowKi, Wrestling/AustinAries, [[Wrestling/EnzoAndCass Enzo Amore]]? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. But when he dissed Wrestling/ColtCabana, Wrestling/KevinSteen, [[Wrestling/SamiZayn El Generico]], Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/JoeyRyan, and Wrestling/KennyOmega? It was... ''way'' less well received, to say the least.
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** When he dissed Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Wrestling/KevinNash, Wrestling/HulkHogan, Wrestling/VinceRusso, Wrestling/{{Sable}}, Wrestling/NewJack, Wrestling/{{Chyna}}, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels, Wrestling/BrockLesnar, Wrestling/{{Batista}}, Wrestling/TheMiz, Wrestling/LowKi, Wrestling/AustinAries, [[Wrestling/EnzoAndCass Enzo Amore]]? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. But when he dissed Wrestling/ColtCabana, Wrestling/KevinSteen, [[Wrestling/SamiZayn El Generico]], Wrestling/TheYoungBucks, Wrestling/JoeyRyan, Wrestling/JoeyRyan[[note]]Pretty much Main/VindicatedByHistory on him[[/note]], and Wrestling/KennyOmega? It was... ''way'' less well received, to say the least.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: He responded to wrestling fans claiming that modern wrestling is more "diverse" than ever before by pointing out that in his day wrestling audiences were 50-60% female and stretched across every age and socioeconomic bracket; with significant, passionate Black and Latino audiences in the South. Meanwhile, present-day wrestling fandom has basically contracted to a small pool of children and jaded fifty-somethings for the WWE and white, male nerds between 18-35 for AEW.
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** At the time of Smoky Mountain's closing, he was viewed as whiny and unwilling to take responsibility. His competence as a promoter and in financial management looked better after the closing of ECW and WCW. Cornette at least paid off his debt while Paul Heyman admitted he'd have kept operating with a debt Smoky Mountain never came close to [[MoneyToThrowAway so long as ECW had distribution]]. Meanwhile, many involved with WCW, besides running Cornette and the Expresses off from the company twice, would play significant parts in stunting TNA's growth, and at least one person was so maligned he was basically banned from the business altogether. [[note]] Jim Herd [[/note]]
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** At the time of Smoky Mountain's closing, he was viewed as whiny and unwilling to take responsibility. His competence as a promoter and in financial management looked better after the closing of ECW and WCW. Cornette at least paid off his debt while Paul Heyman admitted he'd have kept operating with a debt Smoky Mountain never came close to [[MoneyToThrowAway so long as ECW had distribution]]. [[note]]According to Cornette ECW was such a money pit that if he had never made a single dime promoting SMW he still wouldn't have lost as much money as Paul Heyman did in ECW.[[/note]] Meanwhile, many involved with WCW, besides running Cornette and the Expresses off from the company twice, would play significant parts in stunting TNA's growth, and at least one person was so maligned he was basically banned from the business altogether. [[note]] Jim Herd [[/note]]
