YMMV / Iced Earth

  • Anvilicious: The Something Wicked saga. All right, Schaffer, we get it. Humans Are Bastards. Did you have to spread it out over TWO albums? Evidently he did.
    • The Glorious Burden is definitely not subtle about its pro-America stance. Which wouldn't be a problem except that, around the time of the album's release, Schaffer was spewing some pretty angry and condescending rants about Americans not having enough appreciation for their country's history.
  • Awesome Music: Oh, so much. "Prophecy," "Birth of the Wicked," "The Coming Curse," "Wolf," "Dracula," "A Question of Heaven..."
    • "Travel in Stygian". "Travel in Stygian". "TRAVEL IN STYGIAN".
    • Hell, pretty much all their stuff is awesome.
    • Their cover of Johnny Cash's "Highwayman", featuring guest vocals from Volbeat's Michael Poulsen - on Cash's part of the song, no less.
  • Dork Age: Despite having some fans, the Tim Owens era of Iced Earth is considered this by many. In addition to Owens having to live up to the critically acclaimed Matt Barlow, Iced Earth really didn't break through the glass ceiling to become the next Iron Maiden or Judas Priest, despite Owens himself being a former Priest singer. It didn't help either that it was around this time when Jon Schaffer became much more politically outspoken and dismissive of any and all his bandmates as being "replaceable" in interviews, causing a lot of fans to turn against Iced Earth and write Schaffer off as an arrogant jingoistic blowhard with delusions of grandeur.
  • Face of the Band: Jon Schaffer.
    • Schaffer is Iced Earth. As well as being the only member of the band from beginning to end, he also sang "Stormrider" in Night of the Stormrider, as well as "God of Thunder," a KISS cover in Tribute to the Gods.
  • Funny Moment:
    • The secret song on Dystopia, with the band seemingly-drunkenly singing "I don't think these lads can take their ale," especially considering all the other songs on the album.
    • The outro in Plagues Of Babylon, which is just the band goofing around in the studio.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The band have actually experienced this twice, in Germany and Greece. In their early days, they were much more popular in Germany than anywhere else. They signed to Century Media and formed a great friendship with German band Blind Guardian, and quickly built up a German following doing a lot of support dates for them. Schaffer's German ancestry (evident in his surname) meant he already had a great love for the country and was at ease doing interviews there. After a series of personal troubles and the departure of John Greely from the band, Schaffer seriously didn't know whether to continue the band, but was encouraged to because of the outpouring of support from German fans (he's mentioned this in a few interviews).
    • Greeks Love Iced Earth: Iced Earth has a particularly large fandom in and around Greece, ever since their massively successful live album "Alive In Athens" was recorded there. They are one of the most popular foreign metal bands in Greece, much more so than anywhere else. The band also recorded Live in Ancient Kourion in nearby country Cyprus, which ensured their popularity there too.
  • Heartwarming Moment: Matt Barlow quit the band because he was inspired by the horrors of 9/11 to become a cop and make a positive difference in people's lives. D'awww...
    • Also, "Watching Over Me," dedicated to an old friend of Schaffer's who tragically died in a motorcycle accident.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: The European limited edition of The Dark Saga has Judas Priest's "The Ripper" as a bonus song.
  • Ho Yay: Schaffer has this in spades with a few of his bandmates. During his very publicized spat with Matt Barlow in the early 2000s, Schaffer really came off as a jilted lover going through a bad divorce all because Barlow wanted to pursue a different career in the wake of 9/11. His gushing over Tim Owens around this time also came off as an attempt to try to tell himself that he could carry on without Matt. Finally, when Matt returned to Iced Earth for his second run, Schaffer pretty much broke down in an interview and declared that he would rather end Iced Earth than continue without Matt Barlow.
  • Jerk Ass: Schaffer is known for exerting a totalitarian control over 'his band' and clearly does NOT take kindly to members coming and going as they please. For instance, John Greely wanted to leave the band in the middle of a tour, and Schaffer was so angry about this that he made up Blatant Lies to the press about Greely being a racist that severely damaged Greely's reputation and caused him to drop out of the music business for many years. In late 2003, meanwhile, Schaffer responded to Matt Barlow's sudden departure from the band by making some rather scathing remarks about him and his music abilities to the pressnote . Fortunately, his feelings towards Matt softened up quite a bit ever since. He even temporarily rejoined Iced Earth in late 2007 and recorded one last album with the band before leaving them once again in early 2011.
  • Jerk Ass Has A Point: Schaffer may be very blunt and abrasive when talking about his own bandmates and he may have been a genuine prick due to how he treated guys like Barlow at a certain point in the past. However, when Jon talked about how only he could bring the best musical potential out of everyone and how guys like Matt weren't real songwriters, time has at least vindicated some of his seemingly arrogant talking points. Even now, the majority of musicians who were in Iced Earth have not gone on to become notable metal musicians of any kind after their stints in IE were over. While some of them may have joined other bands or even started bands of their own, almost no former IE musician has truly turned their new band into a metal juggernaut that has rivaled or surpassed Iced Earth.

    Even Tim Owens, who's joined Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force, hasn't quite been able to recapture his former glory from back in the Judas Priest/Iced Earth days and joining Yngwie has, in fact, made him come off even more as a "replacement guy" who always has to join a more popular act and can never get a break of his own. Richard Christy has made somewhat of a name for himself after joining Howard Stern but even then, his career in metal was more or less over. Steve Di Giorgio has managed to join Testament but has made more of a reputation being a guest musician who's played with multiple metal bands over the years and it remains to be seen if his stint on Testament will be long lasting. All in all, controlling though he may be, Schaffer wasn't totally wrong to declare himself the alpha and omega of Iced Earth and that only he was capable of bringing the best out of his bandmates.
  • Love It or Hate It: Schaffer's playing style. Either he's one of the greatest rhythm guitarists of all time, or a hack who plays the same few riffs over and over.
  • Replacement Scrappy: Tim Owens was this to some fans.
    • Mostly averted with Stu Block: most fans have embraced him as a worthy replacement to Matt Barlow.

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