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YMMV: Ginga Densetsu Weed

Tropes used in the animated adaptation:

  • Alternative Character Interpretation: A good lot of this over Weed. Is he a naive, yet still effective leader whose morals are needed in the kind of world he lives in, or is he just a textbook example of Good Is Dumb who wouldn't have lasted five minutes had he faced Akakabuto with the same kind of mindset?
  • Angst? What Angst?: Weed spends about a minute mourning his mother's death before getting super excited about going on a journey to find his father.
  • Anvilicious: Oh boy... don't get started on Weed and his morals...
  • Ass Pull: Some find Hougen's death by lightning to be this.
  • Base Breaker: Good Lord, Weed. There are those who see him as a na´ve brat who forgives his enemies way too easily and mostly rides on his father's coattails, and then there are those who think that he actually has a point with his morals and is, overall, a fine character even if he didn't happen to be the son of Japan's most famous dog. In short, one should be very careful when voicing their opinion over him.
  • Complete Monster: Hougen is possibly the most evil and malicious dog ever portrayed in any media or at least a strong contender for the place. He introduces himself to the legendary heroes of Ohu by taking a shit and telling them that if they eat it, he'll let them go. He then paralyzes the heroes by threatening to kill a young female, Reika, if they dare to fight back. He has the heroes beaten almost to death as a result. Hougen frequently laughs at pain and desperate acts of heroism and defiles the corpses of those he's defeated; in one snowy scene, he sits on a recently dead dog to keep warm and jeers at the fallen's companion that he'll sit on him next when he dies. Hougen is not above using his lackeys as expendable shields, sending dozens of them to their deaths against opponents whom he can beat himself. When he has temper tantrums, he brutally kills whoever happens to be standing around. Hougen is also a serial rapist, who demands his underlings to round up females for him. He forces Nero (then-pack leader of one of the main characters, Lovable Coward GB, and a minor villain) to kill the abandoned puppies right in front of GB (GB was about to look after them but brought them at the wrong time) just to prove that the puppies weren't Nero's - and that Nero, therefore, isn't hiding a female from him. This, by the way, doesn't save Nero's hide in the end. Later (chronologically) Nero encountered the leaders of Ohu and is swiftly cowed into submission by them trying to justify his cowardice to Hougen by saying that they threatened to bite off his legs and piss on his face. Hougen immediately makes an example out of him by doing exactly that. Even finding out that Hougen and his brother were trapped by their human owner for so long that they had to resort to cannibalizing the dogs trapped with them does nothing to evoke sympathy for his cruelty. The only smidgen of honor Hougen shows throughout the whole series involves a pact he and his brother made, that if Genba dies, he wanted it to be by Hougen's fangs. When Genba suffers a head wound that drives him psychotic, Hougen kills him. Then promptly turns on the dogs who were with his brother, tears out their throats and hurls them from the top of Gajou.
  • Contested Sequel: On one hand, Densetsu Weed appears to be more noticed and recognized than it's predecessor because of having newer animation versus the "old school" animation of the latter. On the other hand, fans who've followed the franchise since its beginning tend to lean towards Nagareboshi Gin as the superior installment, for having more "charm" and being more memorable overall than Densetsu Weed (while its animation is ironically also more fluid).
  • Damsel Scrappy: Many fans dislike Reika for her role of "Just There" in the anime/manga and getting kidnapped. Other fans believe Reika has redeeming qualities and manages to get some slack from the fans because of that. The same cannot be said about Koyuki, Weed's mate who only appears in the manga and seems to serve no other purpose than to give birth to Weed's puppies. Unlike Reika, Koyuki is universally hated by the fandom.
  • Fridge Horror: Bat has these weird-looking marks on his eyes that looks suspiciously like scars. His blindness could be not genetic.
  • Fridge Logic: Early on, the dogs make a deal out of how they'll be recruiting young dogs for a new generation of Ohu soldiers, because the previous ones have gotten old (or are captured). However, Ken and Tesshin were born back in Nagareboshi Gin, meaning they're at least 10 years old, no more than two years or so younger than Gin, which is basically the equivalent of an old man in dog years. Kagetora as well is shown to be best friends with Ken and having known him for a long time (more clearly pointed out in the manga), implying they're roughly the same age.
    • It gets worse when you learn that the average lifespan of a Great Dane is 6 to 8 years. Both Ben and Ken should have been dead ages ago. Artistic License - Biology might be at work here, but it's still rather mindboggling how Ken is portrayed as a young dog, specially in the anime where he's as old as 14 years.
    • When John is being tortured to death, the focus for some reason shifts to Hiro worrying about him, who'd all but known him for a few hours, instead of what would appear the logical choice and have the focus shift to Gin's worry, because hey, aren't he and John the ones who've been best friends and companions for more than 10 years?
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Much like its predecessor, the serie recieved more attention in Scandinavia and Finland than any other place.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: When the dogs first meet Hougen, he takes a dump and tells them he will let him go if they eat it. They get offended and disgusted, as you would expect, until you realize dogs in real life will readily eat poop.
  • Ho Yay: There are lots of unsettling fanart of Weed x Jerome
  • Moral Event Horizon: Hougen crosses it immediately after he is introduced by killing Nero (in a very horrible way in the manga) and never looks back.
  • Narm:
    • Many fans have made fun of Weed's name.
    • Howling dogs in the sad scenes, such as John's death, sound more like humans screaming or coyotes barking instead of the true dog howls. It seems that the animators, writers and voice actors of the anime just didn't care.
    • Likewise, the strange trumpet melody playing during John's last moments feels a bit unfitting, more like it's a melody trying really bad to sound sad, and failing.
    • Hōgen's death by lightning.
    • Second episode. "BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE!" That is all.
    • Just one of many moments ruined by terrible animation: Tokimune's death at Kaibutsu's jaws. No, not the actual death - a shot of Weed screaming "Father!" looks like he's having a friendly conversation.
  • Narm Charm: Despite having ridiculous amounts of Narm, some people still find the anime watchable, even enjoyable.
    • It depends what episode you're watching, really. There are a few well animated ones.
  • Nightmare Fuel - Bat, the Blind Seer of Hougen's pack, is pretty damn creepy.
    • When Weed momentarily dies. You see a couple shots of him, and he's quite bloodied, especially on his head. His eyes are wide open, his pupils are dialated, and his tounge is lolling out of his mouth.
    • Genba's insanity. Just watch him jump around spastically and attack his own dogs in a crazed frenzy and say that it doesn't give you chills.
    • Also Aramu, the German Shepherd with some flesh missing from his muzzle, creeped out some of the manga's readers.
    • The Not Quite Dead Sniper's deformed appearance in the manga.
    • John's torture to death. Especially in the manga, in which his intestines not only get ripped out by Hōgen but are bitten in half by John himself.
  • Replacement Scrappy: Jerome's helpers were hated by most fans for replacing the manga characters who were cut out from the anime. Though Ryo did have fans for being an Action Girl (which is rare in this series).
  • Squick:
    • Hiro the ball-snatcher.
    • In the manga, Hougen ripped the heavily-wounded John's gut out from his stomach, slowly killing him. This scene was cut out from the anime.
    • Hougen is made of Squick in the manga. His introductory scene is a magnificent ball of Squick, Moral Event Horizon and Establishing Character Moment all in one, combined with a helping of Bad Boss and Urine Trouble: he shows his disappointment in Nero by having some of his henchdogs rip off his front paws, then proceeds to pee on his face as he dies. Yeesh.
  • Subbing versus Dubbing: Some people seem to think the series needs an English dub.
  • The Woobie: Hook.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: A lot of the fans who have watched Ginga Nagareboshi Gin or have read the manga were seriously unhappy about the changes in the anime. And not everything can be blamed on Pragmatic Adaptation.
    • One of the most hated changes would be Gin's original silver fur and brown eyes being changed to blue fur and blue eyes just so he would match Weed.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: At one point, a female warrior (Ryō) appears. Until that point, the only female fighter in both animes was Cross, and she was rarely shown fighting. She had a good design, and it would have been interesting to see a female that can actually fight in a cast full of males, but instead of doing anything useful, she very easily is captured, becoming a Damsel in Distress, and is not head from again afterward.

Tropes used in the Manga:

  • Creator's Pet: Weed and Sasuke under Yoshihiro Takahashi.
    • GB and Jerome to a certain extent.
  • Ending Fatigue: One of the major complaints among the fans who read the manga especially for the later arcs.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: George is one of the favourite characters among the manga readers. He isn't in the anime. This is just another thing that made the fans unhappy.
    • Tesshin is also an example of this. Apparently he's very popular with Japanese readers.
    • Yukimura, Weed's oldest brother, quickly gained a popularity arguably outdoing Weed's for being more mature, badass, and having red fur and scars reminiscent of Riki.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Again, many fans felt Yukimura was a stronger, more badass character than Weed, but he dies at the end of the Monkey Arc from the wounds he suffered disposing of the Big Bad.
  • Unfortunate Implications: Near the end of the manga, many fans were unhappy at the idea of Weed and Koyuki mating and having puppies. Even though they are dogs, it has an unpleasant parallel to the implications of teenage pregnancy as both Weed and Koyuki are too young to become parents.
  • What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: While the anime is rather toned down, the manga consists of several gory fighting scenes that borders on Seinen territory (no censorship of ripped guts, limbs or testicles here). The main characters being dogs instead of humans might be why it's allowed to be a Shounen.

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