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** Is the movie a refreshing take on a classic franchise with proven actresses leading the way to sure success, or an unnecessary rehash that feels like a pathetic attempt at appealing to politically correct sensibilities? Everyone has an opinion, and those who are vocal about theirs feel ''very'' strongly about it. There are also those who couldn't care one way or another about the "Political Correctness" debate, but insist that [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight the original film only works because of the specific combination of its four stars]], and are worried about [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks trying to rehash the original story with new actors]].

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** Is the movie a refreshing take on a classic franchise with proven actresses leading the way to sure success, or an unnecessary rehash that feels like a pathetic attempt at appealing to politically correct sensibilities? Everyone has an opinion, and those who are vocal about theirs feel ''very'' strongly about it. There are also those who couldn't care one way or another about the "Political Correctness" debate, but insist that [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight the original film only works because of the specific combination of its four stars]], and are worried about [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks trying to rehash the original story with new actors]].



* SoOKItsAverage: What the general critical response has boiled down to. Most reviews, aside from diehard fans of the original or people who were biased in favour of the film, fell into the category of saying that it wasn't as bad as the trailers made it out to seem, but not a good film in its own right.

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* SoOKItsAverage: SoOkayItsAverage: What the general critical response has boiled down to. Most reviews, aside from diehard fans of the original or people who were biased in favour of the film, fell into the category of saying that it wasn't as bad as the trailers made it out to seem, but not a good film in its own right.



* WatchedItForTheRepresentation: The film attracted a large female audience, including those new to the franchise, who were interested in seeing [[GenderFlip an all-female Ghostbusters team.]]

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* WatchedItForTheRepresentation: The film attracted a large female audience, including those new to the franchise, who were interested in seeing [[GenderFlip an all-female Ghostbusters team.]]team]].
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* PortmanteauCoupleName: Fans call the Jillian Holtzmann/Erin Gilbert ship "Holtzbert".
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* LGBTFanbase: Many fans are sapphic women drawn in by the strong female relationships. The quirky, AmbiguouslyGay Holtzmann has an especially sizable lesbian fanbase, and that's just in addition to Creator/KateMcKinnon's existing gay fanbase.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: One of the common criticisms of the trailers is that the CG graphics, particularly for the ghosts, look very cheap and cartoonish, as if they were taken straight out of a live action ''Film/ScoobyDoo'' film. Interestingly, there were talks of doing several of the ghosts [[http://character-shop.com/tcsgbslimers.html practically]], but it never came to be due to budget cuts.

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One of the common criticisms of the trailers is that the CG graphics, particularly for the ghosts, look very cheap and cartoonish, as if they were taken straight out of a live action ''Film/ScoobyDoo'' film. Interestingly, there were talks of doing several of the ghosts [[http://character-shop.com/tcsgbslimers.html practically]], but it never came to be due to budget cuts.cuts.
** In one scene near the end, Erin's dialogue was clearly added in post, as her mouth doesn't move when she says it.

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* InformedWrongness: Erin is treated as ridiculous for wanting Abby to take down their book from Amazon. Except...she makes a lot of legitimate points that she never gave her consent on it, and it's implied Abby is withholding Erin's share of the royalties out of bitterness towards their grudge. Not helping matters is that Abby does it ''again'', posting a video of the ghost at the Aldridge Mansion without Erin's consent, which went viral and got Erin fired. Her only response to a crying Erin is to offer to hire her at the university where she works. What's more, [[spoiler:when you're ridiculed for years because you saw a ghost and couldn't convince anyone, you would do all you can to deny the lady who stood over your bed for a year]].
* LesYay: Holtzmann is quite flirtatious with the other female characters throughout the movie, but is particularly so with Erin, who frequently appears awkward but otherwise flattered by her attentions.

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* InformedWrongness: Erin is treated as ridiculous for wanting Abby to take down their book from Amazon. Except...she makes a lot of legitimate points that she never gave her consent on it, and it's implied Abby is withholding Erin's share of the royalties out of bitterness towards their grudge. Not helping matters is that Abby does it ''again'', posting a video of the ghost at the Aldridge Mansion without Erin's consent, which went viral and got Erin fired. Her only response to a crying Erin is to offer to hire her at the university where she works. What's more, [[spoiler:when you're ridiculed for years because you saw a ghost and couldn't convince anyone, you would do all you can to deny the lady who stood over your bed for a year]].
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HoYay: Holtzmann is quite flirtatious with the other female characters throughout the movie, but is particularly so with Erin, who frequently appears awkward but otherwise flattered by her attentions.


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* InformedWrongness: Erin is treated as ridiculous for wanting Abby to take down their book from Amazon. Except...she makes a lot of legitimate points that she never gave her consent on it, and it's implied Abby is withholding Erin's share of the royalties out of bitterness towards their grudge. Not helping matters is that Abby does it ''again'', posting a video of the ghost at the Aldridge Mansion without Erin's consent, which went viral and got Erin fired. Her only response to a crying Erin is to offer to hire her at the university where she works. What's more, [[spoiler:when you're ridiculed for years because you saw a ghost and couldn't convince anyone, you would do all you can to deny the lady who stood over your bed for a year]].
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* LGBTFanbase: Many fans are sapphic women drawn in by the strong female relationships. The quirky, AmbiguouslyGay Holtzmann has an especially sizable lesbian fanbase, and that's just in addition to Creator/KateMcKinnon's existing gay fanbase.
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* CriticalBacklash: The film received nuclear levels of controversy from just its initial announcements and previews, [[OvershadowedByControversy and the vitriol levelled towards it never went away during its theatrical run]], no doubt leading to it [[BoxOfficeBomb bombing in the box office]]. However, in the following years as the high emotions have calmed down (helped by ''Film/GhostbustersAfterlife'' taking some of the bad taste away), the consensus towards this reboot has shifted from "one of the worst affronts to a nostalgic franchise ever committed to cinema" to "just a typically bad-to-[[SoOkayItsAverage average]] blockbuster." In retrospect, its gravest flaw is being attached to ''Ghostbusters'' and simply ''not'' being [[DevelopmentHell the true, ultimately ill-fated sequel]] that longtime fans had craved, but beyond the intense periphery and biases from diehard fans (and ''especially'' the heavily politicized debates surrounding [[GenderFlip its all-female main cast]]), this isn't treated as extreme a deal-breaker as it was during release.

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* CriticalBacklash: The film received nuclear levels of controversy from just its initial announcements and previews, [[OvershadowedByControversy and the vitriol levelled towards it never went away during its theatrical run]], no doubt leading to it [[BoxOfficeBomb bombing in the box office]]. However, in the following years as the high emotions have calmed down (helped by ''Film/GhostbustersAfterlife'' taking some of the bad taste away), the consensus towards this reboot has shifted from "one of the worst affronts to a nostalgic franchise ever committed to cinema" to "just a typically bad-to-[[SoOkayItsAverage average]] blockbuster.blockbuster that failed its franchise, but in a pretty middling way." In retrospect, its gravest flaw is being attached to ''Ghostbusters'' and simply ''not'' being [[DevelopmentHell the true, ultimately ill-fated sequel]] that longtime fans had craved, but beyond the intense periphery and biases from diehard fans (and ''especially'' the heavily politicized debates surrounding [[GenderFlip its all-female main cast]]), this isn't treated as extreme a deal-breaker as it was during release.
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* CriticalBacklash: The film received nuclear levels of controversy from just its initial announcements and previews, [[OvershadowedByControversy and the vitriol levelled towards it never went away during its theatrical run]], no doubt leading to it [[BoxOfficeBomb bombing in the box office]]. However, in the following years as the high emotions have calmed down (helped by ''Film/GhostbustersAfterlife'' taking some of the bad taste away), the consensus towards this reboot has shifted from "one of the worst affronts to a nostalgic franchise ever committed to cinema" to "just a typically bad-to-[[SoOkayItsAverage average]] blockbuster." In retrospect, its gravest flaw is being attached to ''Ghostbusters'' and simply ''not'' being [[DevelopmentHell the true, ultimately ill-fated sequel]] that longtime fans had craved, but beyond the intense periphery and biases from diehard fans (and ''especially'' the heavily politicized debates surrounding [[GenderFlip its all-female main cast]]), this isn't treated as extreme a deal-breaker as it was during release.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: This has been cited as a reason for the film not performing well at the box office. The many arguments and fights between the film's detractors, its supporters, and the staff involved in its creation have become next to impossible to ignore even for those who were not previously interested or didn't even know the film existed.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: This has been cited as a reason for the film not performing well at the box office. The many arguments and fights between the film's detractors, its supporters, and the staff involved in its creation have become next to impossible to ignore even for those who were not previously interested or didn't even know the film existed. Even today, the controversy usually gets brought up whenever people talk about the film, even if only in passing.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Regardless of the controversy surrounding its leading female cast, a reboot of one of the most beloved 80s horror comedies without the involvement of the original cast and/or Creator/IvanReitman, was always gonna be a tough sell. Especially amongst fans who preferred a sequel to the original films or those who feel the original film worked ''because'' of the specific combination and chemistry between Ivan and the original cast. Unsurprisingly, one of, if not the biggest criticism aimed towards the film was its poor attempts to recreate the original film and its tone and humor without understanding how and why it worked in the first place. As a result of this, despite having a good opening weekend, the film would go on to become a BoxOfficeBomb.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Regardless of the controversy surrounding its leading female cast, a reboot of one of the most beloved 80s horror comedies without the involvement of the original cast and/or Creator/IvanReitman, and Creator/IvanReitman was always gonna be a tough sell. Especially amongst fans who preferred a sequel to the original films or those who feel the original film worked ''because'' of the specific combination and chemistry between Ivan and the original cast. Unsurprisingly, one of, if not the biggest criticism aimed towards the film was its poor attempts to recreate the original film and its tone and humor without understanding how and why it worked in the first place. As a result of this, despite having a good opening weekend, the film would go on to become a BoxOfficeBomb.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Regardless of the controversy surrounding its leading female cast, a reboot of one of the most beloved 80s horror comedies without the involvement of the original cast and/or Creator/IvanReitman, was always gonna be a tough sell. Especially amongst fans who preferred a sequel to the original films or those who feel the original film worked ''because'' of the specific combination and chemistry between Ivan and the original cast. Unsurprisingly, one of, if not the biggest criticism aimed towards the film was its poor attempts to recreate the original film and its tone and humor without understanding how and why it worked in the first place and despite having a good opening weekend, the film would go on to become a BoxOfficeBomb.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Regardless of the controversy surrounding its leading female cast, a reboot of one of the most beloved 80s horror comedies without the involvement of the original cast and/or Creator/IvanReitman, was always gonna be a tough sell. Especially amongst fans who preferred a sequel to the original films or those who feel the original film worked ''because'' of the specific combination and chemistry between Ivan and the original cast. Unsurprisingly, one of, if not the biggest criticism aimed towards the film was its poor attempts to recreate the original film and its tone and humor without understanding how and why it worked in the first place and place. As a result of this, despite having a good opening weekend, the film would go on to become a BoxOfficeBomb.
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* SpecialEffectFailure: One of the common criticisms of the trailers is that the CG graphics, particularly for the ghosts, look very cheap and cartoonish, as if they were taken straight out of a live action ''Film/ScoobyDoo'' film or ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''. Interestingly, there were talks of doing several of the ghosts [[http://character-shop.com/tcsgbslimers.html practically]], but it never came to be due to budget cuts.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: One of the common criticisms of the trailers is that the CG graphics, particularly for the ghosts, look very cheap and cartoonish, as if they were taken straight out of a live action ''Film/ScoobyDoo'' film or ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''.film. Interestingly, there were talks of doing several of the ghosts [[http://character-shop.com/tcsgbslimers.html practically]], but it never came to be due to budget cuts.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Suffice it to say, one of the main reasons why detractors hate the movie is because of this trope. Many felt that the feminist message of the movie was over-exaggerated, aggressive, and possibly even misandristic due to the way the male characters are portrayed.

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* DontShootTheMessage: Suffice it to say, one of the main reasons why detractors hate the movie is because of this trope. Many felt that the feminist message of the movie was over-exaggerated, aggressive, and possibly even misandristic due to the way the male characters are portrayed. Even some feminists didn't like the way the message was handled.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Sufficient to say, one of the main reasons why detractors hate the movie is because of this trope. Many felt that the feminist message of the movie was over-exaggerated, aggressive, and possibly even misandristic due to the way the male characters are portrayed.

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* DontShootTheMessage: Sufficient Suffice it to say, one of the main reasons why detractors hate the movie is because of this trope. Many felt that the feminist message of the movie was over-exaggerated, aggressive, and possibly even misandristic due to the way the male characters are portrayed.
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* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: In spite of the first trailer being torn to shreds by fans and being massively downvoted by the majority of those who saw it, it still managed to gain 24 million views across multiple social media platforms in 24 hours, surpassing the amount of views that the first trailer for ''Film/IndependenceDayResurgence'' got in the same amount of time. [[SubvertedTrope Sadly, this didn't translate to actual sales]].
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* LGBTFanbase: Many fans are sapphic women drawn in by the strong female relationships. The quirky, AmbiguouslyGay Holtzmann has an especially sizable lesbian fanbase, and that's just in addition to Creator/KateMcKinnon's existing gay fanbase.
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* SpecialEffectFailure: One of the common criticisms of the trailers is that the CG graphics, particularly for the ghosts, look very cheap and cartoonish, as if they were taken straight out of a live action ''Film/ScoobyDoo'' film or ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: One of the common criticisms of the trailers is that the CG graphics, particularly for the ghosts, look very cheap and cartoonish, as if they were taken straight out of a live action ''Film/ScoobyDoo'' film or ''Film/TheHauntedMansion''. Interestingly, there were talks of doing several of the ghosts [[http://character-shop.com/tcsgbslimers.html practically]], but it never came to be due to budget cuts.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** The Extended Edition adds a scene where Erin gets involved in a public scandal, and Patty advises her to "shake off" haters' efforts to shame her. Leslie Jones ended up having to heed those words after she became hacked and harassed online; this became a little less harsh by the time the ''Ghostbusters'' Extended Edition hit home video, when she used the incidents as basis for new ''SNL'' sketches.
** Creator/HaroldRamis had famously said, of another treatment for a new ''Ghostbusters'' flick, "Over my dead body." This movie began production shortly after he died.

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HarsherInHindsight: The Extended Edition adds a scene where Erin gets involved in a public scandal, and Patty advises her to "shake off" haters' efforts to shame her. Leslie Jones ended up having to heed those words after she became hacked and harassed online; this became a little less harsh by the time the ''Ghostbusters'' Extended Edition hit home video, when she used the incidents as basis for new ''SNL'' sketches.
** Creator/HaroldRamis had famously said, of another treatment for a new ''Ghostbusters'' flick, "Over my dead body." This movie began production shortly after he died.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Martin Heiss' being called "a notorious buster" hearkens back to the original meaning of "ghost-buster"--one who investigated and either confirmed or debunked hauntings[[note]]the other term is "ghost breaker"[[/note]].
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** While he's meant to be disliked due to his {{Jerkass}} nature, you'll find very few who actually enjoyed Martin Heiss. This is due to the general consensus that Creator/BillMurray [[DullSurprise sleep walked through his whole performance]], putting in no effort. Additionally, his [[spoiler: UndignifiedDeath]] is regarded by many as a TakeThat to the actor and his original character due to his reported apathy towards and initial declination to appear in the film before being. Ultimately, while [[TheCameo the appearances of the original actors]] were meant to show the original actors PassingTheTorch, Murray's involvement was seen as lacking, insulting to him, and sparked talk about behind the scenes drama.

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** While he's meant to be disliked due to his {{Jerkass}} nature, you'll find very few who actually enjoyed Martin Heiss. This is due to the general consensus that Creator/BillMurray [[DullSurprise sleep walked through his whole performance]], putting in no effort. Additionally, his [[spoiler: UndignifiedDeath]] is regarded by many as a TakeThat to the actor and in retaliation for his original character due reluctance to his reported apathy towards and initial declination to appear in the film before being.appear. Ultimately, while [[TheCameo the appearances of the original actors]] were meant to show the original actors PassingTheTorch, Murray's involvement was seen as lacking, insulting to him, and sparked talk about behind the scenes drama.

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* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity:
** In spite of the first trailer being torn to shreds by fans and being massively downvoted by the majority of those who saw it, it still managed to gain 24 million views across multiple social media platforms in 24 hours, surpassing the amount of views that the first trailer for ''Film/IndependenceDayResurgence'' got in the same amount of time.
** Subverted when the bad publicity hindered sales, leading to a BoxOfficeBomb.

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NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: In spite of the first trailer being torn to shreds by fans and being massively downvoted by the majority of those who saw it, it still managed to gain 24 million views across multiple social media platforms in 24 hours, surpassing the amount of views that the first trailer for ''Film/IndependenceDayResurgence'' got in the same amount of time.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The Extended Edition adds a scene where Erin gets involved in a public scandal, and Patty advises her to "shake off" haters' efforts to shame her. Leslie Jones ended up having to heed those words after she became hacked and harassed online; this became a little less harsh by the time the ''Ghostbusters'' Extended Edition hit home video, when she used the incidents as basis for new ''SNL'' sketches.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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The Extended Edition adds a scene where Erin gets involved in a public scandal, and Patty advises her to "shake off" haters' efforts to shame her. Leslie Jones ended up having to heed those words after she became hacked and harassed online; this became a little less harsh by the time the ''Ghostbusters'' Extended Edition hit home video, when she used the incidents as basis for new ''SNL'' sketches.sketches.
** Creator/HaroldRamis had famously said, of another treatment for a new ''Ghostbusters'' flick, "Over my dead body." This movie began production shortly after he died.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Sufficient to say, one of the main reasons why detractors hate the movie is because of this trope. Many felt that the feminist message of the movie was over-exaggerated, aggressive, and possibly even misandristic due to the way [[the male characters are portrayed.

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* DontShootTheMessage: Sufficient to say, one of the main reasons why detractors hate the movie is because of this trope. Many felt that the feminist message of the movie was over-exaggerated, aggressive, and possibly even misandristic due to the way [[the the male characters are portrayed.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Holtzmann's savant-like genius for engineering coupled with her generally odd, manic and eccentric behaviour, making loud random sounds, and lack of interest in[=/=]ability with conventional social skills and norms can be read as her appearing on a spectrum somewhere. One particular indicator is the distinctive yellow-lensed goggles / glasses she tends to wear; while these could be a stylistic choice or a tool to help with her work, colour-tinted glasses have also been used as a method of treating sensory overload, perception issues, and visual distortion in [[HollywoodAutism autism]][=/=][[UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome Aspergers spectrum]] patients, among other visual disorders. She was also observed by some viewers to depict autistic traits, or more specifically, someone with Asperger syndrome.
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* AwardSnub: Inverted to an extent. Despite the rather mixed reviews, the film proved well enough of a success to be nominated for four awards at the 2017 [[UsefulNotes/KidsChoiceAward Kids Choice Awards]], winning three for Favorite Movie, Favorite Movie Actor (Creator/ChrisHemsworth), and Favorite Movie Actress (Creator/MelissaMcCarthy).

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