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** Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio. This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar bands') music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out, some fans will assume the band went soft.
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** Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio. This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar bands') music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out, some fans will assume the band went soft.soft.
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* SignatureSong: The Ronnie era has "Situations", "My Apocalypse", and "Not Good Enough For Truth In Cliche". Craig era has "Something", "Issues", "The Flood", and "This War Is Ours".
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* SignatureSong: The Ronnie era has "Situations", "My Apocalypse", and "Not Good Enough For for Truth In Cliche".in Cliché". Craig era has "Something", "Issues", "The Flood", and "This War Is Ours".
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* FaceOfTheBand: Generally averted; most fans know all of the band members.
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* InternetBackdraft: AND HOW! Between the "Team Ronnie" and "Team Craig" factions, it can get downright ''ugly''. Others prefer to TakeAThirdOption and say they like both, and end up still getting flamed.
** Most comments on Website/YouTube videos for their songs generally devolve into flame wars within minutes. It even carries on to their Facebook pages.
** Most comments on Website/YouTube videos for their songs generally devolve into flame wars within minutes. It even carries on to their Facebook pages.
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* BaseBreaker: Craig. Worthy replacement for Ronnie who's helped the band's sound mature, or a whiny emo that made the band become sellouts?
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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Craig. Worthy replacement for Ronnie who's helped the band's sound mature, or a whiny emo that made the band become sellouts?
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* FaceOfTheBand: Generally averted; most fans know all of the bandmembers.
* HarsherInHindsight: "The Day I Left the Womb" now Ronnie's brother died in a bike crash.
* HarsherInHindsight: "The Day I Left the Womb" now Ronnie's brother died in a bike crash.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Generally averted; most fans know all of the bandmembers.
band members.
* FandomRivalry: With Music/FallingInReverse.
* HarsherInHindsight: "The Day I Left the Womb" now that Ronnie's brother died in a bike crash.
* FandomRivalry: With Music/FallingInReverse.
* HarsherInHindsight: "The Day I Left the Womb" now that Ronnie's brother died in a bike crash.
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* SignatureSong: The Ronnie era has Situations, My Apocalypse, and Not Good Enough For Truth In Cliche. Craig era has Something, Issues, The Flood, and This War Is Ours.
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* SignatureSong: The Ronnie era has Situations, My Apocalypse, "Situations", "My Apocalypse", and Not "Not Good Enough For Truth In Cliche. Cliche". Craig era has Something, Issues, The Flood, "Something", "Issues", "The Flood", and This "This War Is Ours.Ours".
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* TearJerker: "The Day I Left the Womb" Ronnie seems to be struggling not to cry in this song. This troper can relate to the lyrics.
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* TearJerker: "The Day I Left the Womb" Womb". Ronnie seems to be struggling not to cry in this song. This troper can relate to the lyrics.song.
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** Additionally, ''This War Is Ours'' was named "The Most Disappointing Album Of 2008" by... some magazine, I can't remember. Ronnie had that page up on his prison cell wall for a while.
** Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio.This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar band's) music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out some fans will assume the band went soft.
** Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio.This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar band's) music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out some fans will assume the band went soft.
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** Additionally, ''This War Is Ours'' was named "The Most Disappointing Album Of 2008" by... some magazine, I can't remember.by one rock magazine. Ronnie had that page up on his prison cell wall for a while.
** Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio. This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similarband's) bands') music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out out, some fans will assume the band went soft.
** Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio. This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar
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* CommonKnowledge: Ronnie wasn't fired because he went to jail. He actually was fired some time before that, and was in the crowd heckling Craig's first show in March 2008.
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* HarsherInHindsight: "The Day I Left the Womb" now Ronnie's brother died in a bike crash.
* ThePeteBest: Hardcore fans will remember Omar Espinosa, who left near the end of the first album cycle. Even less people will remember Carson Allen, who left after the infamous gang brawl that would eventually lead to Ronnie being jailed. Technically he also shows up on the EP and first album, but he's uncredited as he was long gone by that point.
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** Additionally, ''This War Is Ours'' was named "The Most Disappointing Album Of 2008" by... some magazine, I can't remember. Ronnie had that page up on his prison cell wall for a while.
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** Additionally, ''This War Is Ours'' was named "The Most Disappointing Album Of 2008" by... some magazine, I can't remember. Ronnie had that page up on his prison cell wall for a while.while.
**Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio.This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar band's) music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out some fans will assume the band went soft.
**Every single album cycle will include at least one metalcore single, one post-hardcore single and one designed for pop radio.This is an attempt by the band to get a crossover fanbase from different scenes interested in their (and other similar band's) music. It's not exactly uncommon in the hardcore scene. Despite this, EVERY TIME the pop single comes out some fans will assume the band went soft.
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* SongAssociation: "Reverse This Curse" showed up in ''[[VideoGame/TonyHawksProSkater Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam]]''.
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* FanDumb
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* FaceOfTheBand: Generally averted; most fans know all of the bandmembers.
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** Most comments on Website/YouTube videos for their songs generally devolve into flame wars within minutes. It even carries on to their Facebook pages.
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** Most comments on Website/YouTube videos for their songs generally devolve into flame wars within minutes. It even carries on to their Facebook pages.pages.
* SignatureSong: The Ronnie era has Situations, My Apocalypse, and Not Good Enough For Truth In Cliche. Craig era has Something, Issues, The Flood, and This War Is Ours.
* TearJerker: "The Day I Left the Womb" Ronnie seems to be struggling not to cry in this song. This troper can relate to the lyrics.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What the various factions of fans inevitably cry with the drop of every new album. Goes hand-in-hand with this band's BrokenBase.
** Additionally, ''This War Is Ours'' was named "The Most Disappointing Album Of 2008" by... some magazine, I can't remember. Ronnie had that page up on his prison cell wall for a while.
* SignatureSong: The Ronnie era has Situations, My Apocalypse, and Not Good Enough For Truth In Cliche. Craig era has Something, Issues, The Flood, and This War Is Ours.
* TearJerker: "The Day I Left the Womb" Ronnie seems to be struggling not to cry in this song. This troper can relate to the lyrics.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: What the various factions of fans inevitably cry with the drop of every new album. Goes hand-in-hand with this band's BrokenBase.
** Additionally, ''This War Is Ours'' was named "The Most Disappointing Album Of 2008" by... some magazine, I can't remember. Ronnie had that page up on his prison cell wall for a while.
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** Most comments on YouTube Website/YouTube videos for their songs generally devolve into flame wars within minutes. It even carries on to their Facebook pages.
