YMMV / Detective Conan

  • Alternative Character Interpretation:
    • Kogoro Mouri has been interpreted as having actually figured out Conan is actually solving the crimes for him and after awhile, just let him solve it for him while he receives the credit for it. Kogoro already isn't a bad detective; he's just got an extreme case of Tunnel Vision and wants things to be done as fast as possible, so he'll come to one conclusion a detective would, but then insist he's right until proven wrong. Whenever Ran or Conan are threatened, he actually becomes scarily competent. (Kinda like Inspector Gadget whenever he knows Penny & Brain are threatened) There have been several other times where he actually got it mostly right, and several times where he solved the case and only needed a couple hints from Conan, or in one occasion, not only solved it but got a couple details that Conan missed. (It also helps that he tends to be more street-smart while Conan is more book-smart - Kogoro has more insight into peoples' emotions) Chapters 853-55 reveal that Kogoro believes his "sleeping Kogoro deductions" to just be his true, brilliant self coming to light, with the drowsiness and sleeping a consequence of all his brain cells working at full power. Yeah...
    • Shinichi Kudo:
      • Genius or selfish, immature Jerkass who places himself above the others and doesn't really get the meaning of death and for whom each dead person is nothing but challenge?
      • Some put him somewhere between Intelligence Equals Isolation and Insufferable Genius.
      • You can make the case that he starts out as a selfish Jerkass, but as the series progresses and Character Development sets in, becomes more attuned to the human nature of the cases, especially after the Moonlight Sonata case since in Episode 78 when Miyuki Hyuuga tries to kill herself and Conan thwarts it, Heiji explicitly asks why he did that, and Conan says "a detective that allows a suspect to commit suicide is no better than a murderer", Moonlight Sonata flashback included.
  • Angst? What Angst?: Conan's friends seem to be completely unfazed by witnessing grisly murder scenes virtually every day of their life.
  • Arc Fatigue: The main story. Started in Chapter 1, it was intermittently advanced for the first couple of years per the story premise, but the updates keep getting farther and farther apart. Some breaks even span a little over two years such as the gap between the Red Shirts case and Mystery Train case.
  • Badass Decay:
    • Inverted by Gin. He started as a little non-genre savvy and... well, he's now a candidate for Magnificent Bastard.
    • Played with for The Black Organization when it comes to its name as the dwelling of evil. Overtime, it becomes more and more apparent that many of its members are either runaways, newly dead characters, or spies trying to destroy the B.O. from within. Gin, Vermouth and possibly Chianti, have been the only B.O. members to keep up their evil aura going on, and even then, they are having problems of their own with Gin showing signs of Villain Sue, and Vermouth showing a soft spot for Shinichi/Conan. However, most if not all of the cases involving the Black Organisation are often just foiling/surviving their attack and while they get away with it and going back to square one. Many of the fans who were following the manga since the beginning already have their passion and obviously patience long replaced with the obligation to just know the identity of Rum and "Ano Kata", the Number Two and The Boss of the Black Organisation respectively along with the ending of manga.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
  • Broken Base:
    • A number of fans consider "anime original" episodes (episodes written specifically for the TV series by its own writers, rather than adaptations of issues of the single-author manga) to be of generally inferior quality.
    • Canon filler cases as of late. Many readers have noticed the repetitive nature of the cases Gosho's been writing. Particularly, the many three-act-structure casesnote  that don't have anything to do with Character Development, the Black Organization, or even being a complex case, in any way. While there are those that like reading through these cases as they are deemed canon, and are 90+ percent of the time better than actual filler cases created by the anime adaptation, there are also those who are sick of these constant Padding cases as detractors claim that they add nothing to the overall world/story, and is just Gosho stretching out his manga.
    • The Black Organization's Bourbon turning out to be another spy that has infiltrated the organization to try to destroy it from within. While some are glad that Bourbon turned out to be a more complex character with a good side apart from being just another evil henchman, others find it to be repetitive since this is now the third time Gosho has pulled this plot-line after the B.O. members, Rye and Kir, had already used the exact same stunt. Some are also disappointed that due to Bourbon's characterization, it lowers the threat of the organization as a whole. Possibly Lampshaded by Vermouth when she mentions to said spy, offhand, that Gin considers the Organization to be "full of rats".
    • The multi-part chapters that are always Conan VS Kaito Kid. Some find them entertaining and intense, trying to figure out Kid's tricks upon tricks to gain a treasure and whether Conan will be able to prevent the theft. Others find them boring since it's the same routine, with Kid dressing up as the most unlikely person, faces getting pinched and Sonoko's grandfather being an attention seeker but always getting overshadowed by Conan.
    • The Heiji monster cases as of recent. On one hand, they're some of the more complex cases that it's interesting to see how it all unfolds by the end of them. On the other hand, they always follow the same format revealing that the monster is a fake by the end of it that it gets incredibly annoying to see the characters act like a monster could end up being real when they come across another monster case. Particularly with Ran and Kazuka. No matter how many times a monster is revealed to be fake, the two girls will ALWAYS be scared.
  • Complete Monster:
    • "With a Bang" case note : The unnamed bomber is the Big Bad of this story. Seven years ago, he and an accomplice used bomb threats in two apartment buildings to extort money from the police. Despite initially planning to not kill anyone, when his accomplice died from an accident caused by police miscommunication, the bomber, swearing vengeance against the police for their "dirty tricks", reactivated an undisarmed bomb, killing the bomb technicians beside it. Four years later, he planted two sets of bombs, one at a Ferris wheel and another at an unknown hospital, using a tricky dilemma to force detective Jinpei Matsuda into sacrificing himself at the Ferris wheel to find the location of the second set. In the present, he critically injured Inspector Shiratori by bombing his car, before sending another bomb threat about two new sets of bombs, one at the Tokyo Tower and another at an unknown high school, once again aiming to to humiliate the police with the same dilemma. Willing to detonate bombs despite being aware of children's presence, the bomber shows nothing but amusement from the police's troubles. When finally cornered, the bomber breaks down and reveals his true colors, a pathetic criminal looking to cause violence and see the police ruined, his original thoughts of vengeance long gone.
    • The Time-Bombed Skyscraper film: Teiji Moriya is an architect with a violent obsession of symmetry. Unsatisfied with his past asymmetrical works, he plans to destroy them in disproportionately violent ways while taking revenge on Shinichi Kudo, who had unintentionally wronged him in the past. Starting by burning down four of his past works, he stole bomb-making materials and created plastic explosives to play a game of cat-and-mouse with Shinichi and the Tokyo police, bombing a park with children in it, a public square, and the Tokyo railway, causing further chaos by designing the bombs so that they explode if the trains slow down, forcing them to speed up. When finally revealed, he attempts to blow up his own house and take the detectives with him. After being arrested, he reveals his greatest plan, destroying his "ultimate disgrace", a skyscraper and a major city center, starting by bombing the exits so that more people will die, all the while taunting Kogoro and Shinichi about Ran being trapped underneath the rubble, with the largest bomb, about to die.
  • Crowning Music of Awesome: Apart from being an awesome song in its own right, whenever "Kimi ga Ireba" (the vocal version of the movie opening theme) starts playing in one of the Non Serial Movies, something awesome is usually about to happen—most often, some unsuspecting baddie is about to receive the butt-kicking of a lifetime. Sometimes they use "Boku ga Iru" instead just for variety.
  • Cult Classic:
    • In the U.S. Since it aired at such a late time even for the [adult swim] schedule, the show never found that strong a following compared to its massive success in Japan. The manga, however, does have a decent enough fan-following and Viz has been translating the graphic novels for over a decade now (they're past Volume 60!)
    • The anime seems to be this in Latin America, specially in Chile. As a proof, the anime stopped being dubbed in Los Angeles several years ago - but a second dub began to be made and broadcasted in Chile.
  • Designated Monkey: Takagi. Though he does lose some of the uncertainty that makes him such a monkey as time goes on. For instance, in "The Man Who Called for an Ambulance" he ends up delivering a lecture to a more senior detective about jumping to conclusions that Conan silently applauds. However, it looks like he will always be a monkey where his relationship with Satou is concerned. Until she lets him know that her heart has been with him all the time.
  • Die for Our Ship:
    • Ran from the Conan/Haibara fans, as already mentioned. Surprisingly, the Shinichi/Heiji shippers are more respectful, or at least leave her out.
    • Some particularly rabid Shinichi/Ran shippers seem to feel pretty threatened by Masumi and Ran's close friendship, enough to accuse Sera of trying to steal Shinichi's girlfriend from him, and/or of being a "offensive lesbian stereotype".
    • Lately, the Akai/Jodie and Akai/Akemi fans have been seen ducking it out. The rabid Akai/Jodie fans tend to see Akemi as a Relationship Sue who "stole" Akai's heart from poor Jodie even post mortem despite Jodie "deserving" his affection more in their view, while the rabid Akai/Akemi fans accuse all Akai/Jodie fans of being Akemi haters and insist that he only considered Akemi as his true love and still does after her murder.
    • The peaceful Heiji/Kazuha corner has been shaken up by the apparition of Momiji Ooka, a potential Amateur Sleuth who wants to marry Heiji. (Plus, she's rumored to have a shared past with him). Some think she's a potentially fun addition to their dynamics, others believe her to be a bitch out to steal Heiji from Kazuha, and others fear that she'll just be used as a plot device to bring Heiji and Kazuha closer. In fact, the Momiji bashing has been spotted on this very Wiki'.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse:
    • Since being imported into Detective Conan, Kaitou Kid has consistently been ranked as the 2nd most popular character in the series behind only Conan himself. The only time he wasn't ranked second was when he was ranked first.
      • The Kaitou Kid's rival, Hakuba Saguru, despite being something of an ensemble Dark Horse within Magic Kaito itself, still has a rather large fan following among Detective Conan fans, despite having only appeared in two DC story arcs and sort-of one movie.
    • The trio detectives of Yamato, Uehara and "Koumei" Morofushi are pretty popular as well for being one of the more interesting characters introduced in the filler cases. The fandom generally agree that the filler cases are generally more bearable if these three appeared instead of Yamamura. The case that they introduced in is one of the more interesting and dramatic cases also doesn't hurt.
    • For a one-shot character, Natsuki Koshimizu was surprisingly popular in the Detective Koshien case. It helps that she was a female Amateur Sleuth with a tomboyish nature. There was even plans for a video game starring her. However Aoyama declined on the grounds that she was the special's Sympathetic Murderer, therefore a criminal. Although she was the inspiration and basis for future character Masumi Sera.
    • Reiko Kujo, a prosecutor attorney anime original character, also became this for her interesting relationship with fan-favorite Eri and especially after her Hidden Depths is reviewed in her A Day in the Limelight episode. She is today the only anime-exclusive character who continuously appeared more than one episodes and played a major role.
    • Matsuda Jinpei, Satou's ex-half-boyfriend, appeared only in flashbacks for about three episodes, having died years before the events of the manga began, yet he got his own keyhole appearance on the back cover and is sometimes considered one of the (admittedly numerous) main characters.
    • Sonoko's Adorkable super boyfriend Makoto Kyogoku keeps bringing more and more fangirls (and hype) with each of his appearance. Leading to Sonoko's actress resolving to notify the public one week prior to the episode containing Makoto's appearance. Makoto also comes in 8th place in popular ranking to boot.
    • The Criminal, the black silhouette character stand-in present in every investigation, became wildly popular with the fanbase. It's enough for the character itself to have its own spinoff manga.
  • Epileptic Trees:
    • A particular fan theory is that Eri's cat, Goro, is the Boss of the Black Organization. Or Yusaku. Or Dr. Agasa.
    • See also the Wild Mass Guessing page for this series.
    • As for Subaru, There are two main theories in fandom about his identity: he either is the high-ranked Organization member Bourbon (always alluded to, and hinted to be very powerful and dangerous), or Shuichi Akai who is now Faking the Dead. The last one turned out to be true.
    • As for Sera, The fandom wonders if she's related to Shuuichi Akai. Also confirmed in the manga: She's his younger sister.
    • Now there's the recently introduced Tooru Amuro. Perhaps he is Bourbon? ...He IS.
    • More recently, a mysterious young girl has showed up. Theories about her identity have been running wild, some of them being: "She is Ai's mother, Elena only shrunk", "she is Sera's never-seen mother, only shrunk" and "She is "Sera's middle brother", only shrunk". The second one is the closest to the truth.
    • There's the deal of Sera's "middle brother", where the most popular "option" is Shukichi Haneda. 972 also confirms it.
    • The newest one features the identity of the supposed Number Two of the B.O., Rum. The three biggest "suspects" of being this person are: Hyoue Kuroda, Kansuke Yamato and Rumi Wakasa.
  • Evil Is Sexy: Vermouth. Also, Chianti.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff:
    • The series—especially the manga—is very popular in Indonesia. As of May 2016, the translation has been keeping up with the latter 88 volumes.
    • Also the Germans in the case of the anime. They have one of the best fansubbing projects, and Keep Circulating the Tapes of the German dubbed episodes scarily efficiently. These fans also cut together an uncut edition from the Japanese original and the German dubbed Edited for Syndication versionthis means in practice: .
    • The anime is adored in Chile, too: even though the (So Bad, It's Good) dub was discontinued since the Los Angeles-based studio was shut down and the dub itself had a very difficult production, a Chilean TV cable held several re-runs through the years, and as of November 2014 a new dub made in Chile started to be aired there...
  • Harsher in Hindsight: The Non-Serial Movie of April 2001 (Countdown to Heaven) happened to be about a Twin Towers being bombed. The conspiracy theorists make this one worse as it was a controlled explosion by an undercover organization—which happens to include evil politicians amongst its membership—that pretty much get away with having any suspicion pointed towards them.
  • Internet Backdraft: Due to the Ran/Ai shipping wars, anyone should check their favourite forums' rules for discussions on these pairings. In many places comparing the pairings or even comparing the two as characters would get you banned even you're being neutral.
  • Jerkass Woobie: There is a murder in which a business tycoon is killed on a boat (the infamous Hatamoto Family case). One of the suspects, his eldest granddaughter Akie, is an absolute Rich Bitch, surpassed in obnoxiousness only by her husband Tatsuo. She becomes a Jerkass Woobie when Tatsuo says terrible things about why he married her (Akie's little sister Natsue turns out to be the heiress, so Tatsuo openly says he only married her for the money much to Akie's horror), but then she cries heavily when he becomes the next murder victim. She's even seen cradling Tatsuo's lifeless body in her arms.. As much of a bitch as she is, well... no one deserves that.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Many.
    • First of all, "Ano Kata".
    • His operative Gin is heading towards this.
    • Narumi/Seiji from the Moonlight Sonata case, who gets away with everything through suicide.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Fishing line. Most letal weapon ever!.
      • German fans comment that most of the crimes were done with fishing lines or similar cords.
      • Fishers need firearm licenses.
      • No fishing line, no crime.
    • The criminal is that person!
    • OI, OI, OI!
    • "I learned it in Hawaii!" It's gotten to the point where someone could easily mistake Hawaii for the code name of a CIA training camp. The overuse of this has not gone unnoticed by DC fans.
    • "Cone", "The Cone Life", "I didn't choose the cone life, the cone life chose me" note 
    • Conan, the Death God.note 
  • Mis-blamed: No, sorry, it wasn't Funimation or Viz Media that changed it to "Case Closed". That change was actually requested by the Japanese editors to avoid copyright infringements/confusions with another Market-Based title: Conan the Barbarian.
  • Narm: Now with its own page.
  • Never Live It Down: It seem Heizo Hattori's only memorable character trait is punching Heiji.
  • One-Scene Wonder: The character sheet has a special part for these. Jinpei Matsuda, though, is worth specific mention.
  • Portmanteau Couple Name: Loads and Loads of Characters, loads and loads of these, from Shinran (for Shinichi/Ran) to some of the very obscure pairings.
  • The Scrappy:
    • The Detective Boys, usually written off as annoying kids, mostly due to their frequent appearances in filler episodes. Not helping as they can often come across as The Load on more serious cases, often causing trouble for Conan right when he's in the middle of a deduction or confronting the killer.
    • Heizo Hattori. See Never Live It Down above.
    • Misao Yamamura. After many cases, you'd expected him to be more skilled, but it seems he hardly ever learned and can only heavily relies on Kogoro most of the time. He also doesn't really acknowledge Conan's skill and thinks he, as well as Heiji, is still learning from Kogoro. While other police inspectors like Megure and Yokomizou twins are growing better as the series progress, he is again an idiot.
  • Ship Mates:
    • If you support the same format, then Shinichi/Ran, Heiji/Kazuha, and Kaito/Aoko is for you. To get Haibara out of the way, pair her up with Mitsuhiko, who already has a crush on her. You might also include non-related ships like Eri/Kogoro and Satou/Takagi along with Shiratori/Kobayashi (which is canon already) and Genta/Ayumi.
    • Alternatively, for Conan/Ai shippers, they just kill Ran off or pair her up with everyone else.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat:
    • Not in the English fandom, but Chinese fansite forums have very specifically banned threads comparing Shinichi/Ran and Conan/Ai.
    • One English-language forum keeps the Shinichi/Ran and Conan/Ai shippers to their own separate threads. Sometimes, you can't even discuss the Ran or Ai as stand-alone characters without the thread dissolving into a shipper war when either character's relationship with Shinichi is brought into the discussion.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Chiba's HUGE weight-loss transformation in a recent two-parter may be disappointing for some, as his obesity made him somewhat of an individual.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • The culprit of A June Bride Murder Case, Toshihiko Takasugi. While he does have a Freudian Excuse, his eventual redemption and the fact that he got a very light sentence for his attempted murder can make some feel sour. First, there is the fact that he goes for a Revenge by Proxy, instead of going after the man responsible for the death of his mother. And even then, Superintendent Kiyonaga Matsumoto wasn't fully responsible. He didn't see her when she was wounded during a car chase, because he was pursuing a criminal, and he never forgave himself for that. Admittedly, at the end of the episode, he feels remorse for what he did. However, it's only because he realizes that his victim was his childhood friend (and crush) all along, not because she was an innocent victim of his Revenge by Proxy.note  Moreover, he has the dubious honor to be one of the few culprits in Detective Conan who don't go after an Asshole Victim, yet he has one of the lightest punishments and gets a happy ending three years later. This is especially jarring considering so many Sympathetic Murderers have had their lives ruined, ended or both.
    • The use of Asshole Victims during most of the cases may also provoke this reaction with some. Indeed, when the victim is worst than the culprit, it's sometimes hard to wish for them to be arrested.
  • The Untwist: Sera is a girl. That was so difficult to figure out.
  • Values Dissonance:
    • Western people without insight on Japanese culture tend to view Kogoro and Heizo as simple and shallow child abusers due to their harsh treatment of Conan and Heiji. However, a smack to the head does not get the same reaction in Japanese culture as it would in American and partially Played for Laughs with the cranial eruptions, especially in early stories and the anime originals, compared to the later manga and manga adaptations. Additionally, Heizo's one punch of Heiji is used to discourage Heiji from going after a dangerous mob boss, and then uses the fact that Heiji's primary reaction is to get mad for the dismissal of his detective skills and continue investigating as a distraction to get the police force in place to catch the whole gang.
    • There's also the subject of Kogoro's alcoholism which is almost always played for laughs. might be in full effect here too - It should be noted that the drinking culture in Japan is VERY different.
  • Viewer Gender Confusion: Eisuke. Hell, Satou looks more like a guy than him... Lampshaded when Ran mentions "a student who looks a LOT like Mizunashi Rena" and Kogoro expects to meet a girl. Of course, he's soon disabused of said belief.
  • Villain Decay: Inverted by Gin to an extreme. Gin gets progressively more evil and intelligent the longer the series goes on. His fellow associates (Vodka, Vermouth, Chianti, Korn) count as well considering we are still no closer to catching them or even knowing about them from their debut.
  • What an Idiot:
    • In the 15th Non-Serial Movie, Quarter of Silence, the culprit develops an elaborate scheme involving blowing up a train in Tokyo as a diversion, then blowing up a dam in order to drain the lake behind it and get at stolen treasure that was buried there before the dam went up. He could have kept things much quieter and simpler, and completely avoided getting Conan and company involved, if he'd just used scuba gear instead. What an idiot.
    • There are times where Ran figures out that Conan is Shinichi. Since he's not telling her about it, she should have just keep this to herself until the right moment he tells her, but no; instead she keeps on admitting it to his face and tries to get a confession out of him, leading to the times where she'll forget about it.
    • Anytime Conan confronts the murderer on his own, seemingly forgetting he has the body of a young child. This almost got him killed once.
  • Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?: In one case, a man tries to kill his bride at a wedding. She notices his intentions, but three years later, she marries him anyway..
  • The Woobie: Shinichi-Conan, Ran and Ai can be woobies at some point (certainly the OPs and EDs delight in depicting Ran as being all sad and torn up because she's been kept from Shinichi for so long).
  • Woolseyism: In general, a lot of cases rely on Japanese wordplay that doesn't translate well into English outside the manga. The localizers try to explain it in a way that makes sense to the viewers, and change names when they couldn't.
    • In Billionaire Birthday Blues, when the first victim is found leaning over the fountain he was drowned in, Kogoro says "Hey, this is no place to be sleeping". In the English Dub, Richard wonders if he's feeling sick, which (To westerners at least; unless Japanese people are able to fall asleep with their heads hanging over something like that in the rain) looks more like he's vomiting into the fountain at a glance.
    • This is also something that would have been Lost in Translation otherwise, but there's a part in which a fashion designer is surprised when she finds out that Ran's father is Kogoro Mouri. You'd think that before asking her presence and planning to help use her as an alibi, she'd make sure that she's not related to a local celebrity with the same surname, right? The dub makes this a little more recognizable to English speakers because they wouldn't know that "Mouri" isn't exactly an uncommon surname in Japan, but they would know that "Moore" is a really common name so someone with the same last name as someone famous could be unrelated period. Then again though, this could be simple assumption...Would you assume Ran to be related to some famous person with the same surname by looking at her and then looking at Kogoro?
    • One of the cases had the hint that the victims were connected by playing Mahjong often be revealed by sentences that they told their families when they interrupted them during a game. Either this was a very difficult example to translate, but the hints make no sense to anyone who doesn't know Mahjong or the original Japanese text. The members of the game say things like "I'm going to the doctor" which wouldn't cause anyone to think Mahjong.
    • In the June Bride case; the bride is chastised for drinking lemon tea in the sub because "it was for kids" and it was localized as "Lemon Punch" in the dub. This actually makes a lot more sense in the dub; where she is instead chastised for drinking punch, also being told that it will rot her teeth. In the western world, tea is usually marketed towards teens and adults, whereas punch is usually marketed towards kids. Not to mention, punch is always very sugary, and "it'll rot your teeth" is something a lot of adults (and dentists) say to get kids off of drinking sugary drinks.
    • The English dub also changed a line the TV station murder. When Kogoro is showing how a call on an analog phone can be tapped into, he gives the example call of a husband having an affair. He changes the line of him and his wife being separate to the much more provocative "The wife is out with the kids", which would further incriminate the theoretical adulterer. Additionally, this line is a Brick Joke - Kogoro says it on live TV, and in the next episode, where Ran meets her mother at a diner, the line is played back taken out of context as they walk past a TV station. It still remains just as humorous and awkward in English.
    • In Viz's translation, Vermouth's catchphrase goes from the always awkward sounding, "A secret makes a woman woman" to "It's that touch of mystery that gives a woman her allure".
    • Some dubs, including English and Korean, have Conan thinking in Shinichi's voice.
    • In the third and definitive LA-Spanish dub, Agasa's "Ai-kun" is sometimes rendered as the Affectionate Nickname "Ai-rin". It follows very closely the English pronunciation of the female name "Irene"... as in, "Irene Adler" from the Holmes stories.

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