History YMMV / CrusaderKings

* MoralEventHorizon: Given the ammount of [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential cruelty potential]] across the games, it’s entirely possible to cross the Moral Event Horizon AND Cross the line twice at the same time, to the point where there is an entire CK2 subreddit dedicated to cataloging player “feats” as the most sadistic and horrible rulers in existence. Where the line is crossed varies from player to player, but most of them agree that castrating a child or rendering them blind ([[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Or both at the same time]]) for no reason other than [[ForTheEvulz fun]] is pretty horrifying. Or taking a royal family as prisioners and [[SexSlave forcing the wife to become your concubine]] while [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty throwing the husband into the oubliette]]. And that’s without taking into account the mods...

** Zunism, an obscure pagan faith in Afghanistan revolving around the sun god Zun, got quite a lot of interest following its introduction in the Charlemagne expansion of *Crusader Kings II*, due to its association with the "Praise the Sun" memes from Dark Souls. This is also in spite of the fact that the depiction of Zunism in-game is based entirely on memes, and bears little resemblance to the worship of Zun in real life, who was the chief Indo-Iranian deity worshipped by the Zunbil dynasty of late antiquity Afghanistan. In reality, Zun was of possibly Iranian Hunnic or Hephthalite origin, and may or may not have had Zoroastrian and/or Hindu influences. Still, the fact that more than a few people know about the existence of an obscure Eastern Iranian deity is quite impressive.

* MoralEventHorizon: Given the ammount of [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential cruelty potential]] across the games, it’s entirely possible to cross the Moral Event Horizon AND Cross the line twice at the same time, to the point where there is an entire CK2 subreddit dedicated to cataloging player “feats” as the most sadistic and horrible rulers in existence. Where the line is crossed varies from player to player, but most of them agree that castrating a child or rendering them blind ([[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Or both at the same time]]) for no reason other than [[ForTheEvulz fun]] is pretty horrifying. Or taking a royal family as prisioners and [[SexSlave forcing the wife to become your concubine]] while [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty throwing the husband into the oubliette]]. And that’s without taking into account [[UpToEleven the mods]]...

** Related to the previous example, everytime you as a child ruler get killed in a plot you not only get one of the aforementioned death sounds (the sound of a baby choking to death, which is nerve-chilling in itself), but also a frighteningly chilly first person experience of the events leading up to the character's death. Examples include stuff like getting pushed off the branch while playing in a tree, and getting taken out in the middle of the woods and then left to fend for themselves, practically guaranteeing that they'll get eaten up by local wildlife in the process. And the game doesn't shy away from making the soon to be dead child you're playing as scared as any child would be in any such situation. AdultFear, indeed.

* LessDisturbingInContext: Due to this game's [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential cruelty]] and [[VideoGamePerversityPotential perversity potential]], rather strange topics and questions can pop up on the game's subreddit and forums, such that posts asking about [[OffingTheOffspring "How do I murder my retarded inbred heir so that his attractive strong genius brother can inherit?"]], [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar "How do I destroy the Vikings? They're annoying me"]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking "Should I divorce]] [[IncestIsRelative my sister-wife to marry our daughter?"]] are not seen as unusual at all.

** Another player created an infamous {{Website/Reddit}} post asking "[[SuicideAsComedy How can I encourage my depressed menopausal daughter-in-law to commit suicide?]]"
--> '''[[https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9qmbv2/how_can_i_encourage_my_depressed_menopausal/ u/Fart_Gas]]''': ''[[AltarDiplomacy I married my son off to a Byzantine Princess for the alliances]]. However, she was 12 years older than him. [[BabyFactory She did give birth to one child for him, but now she's 48, and I want him to make more legitimate children]], especially considering he has the attractive trait. [[WomenAreWiser However, I can't get her to be murdered, because she has the Genius trait, and has an intrigue score of 25]]. That's why I want her to kill herself or succumb to depression ASAP.''

* CrossesTheLineTwice: Due to the VideoGameCrueltyPotential and VideoGamePerversityPotential in ''Crusader Kings'', horrifically villainous player antics invariably elicit hysterical laughter. [[https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/i-use-my-17-yr-old-daughter-to-entrap-and-execute-rich-old-men-repeatedly.948684 One player discovered]] that he could farm money by finding rich landless men, matrilineally marrying them to his daughter, then excommunicating, imprisoning, and executing them. The forum collectively lol'd, and one guy even made a sweet fake tabloid cover of it.