YMMV / Creed

The band

  • Anvilicious: Scott Stapp isn't exactly known to be a master of subtlety, but even compensating for that, "In America" is still incredibly blunt.
  • Deader Than Disco: The backlash began right around the time they broke up and hasn't slowed down since; Today it is almost a social taboo to say that you are a Creed fan and just about everyone is ashamed of the Creed album they owned circa 2000. In 2013, readers of Rolling Stone magazine voted them as the worst band of the 1990s by such a wide margin the editors claimed the competition, "Wasn't even close", with much maligned Nickelback coming in a distant second. When Creed got back together and released Full Circle in 2009, it was slammed by critics and was a commercial failure, barely going gold. The subsequent concert tour didn't fare much better.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Total Guitar magazine named Mark Tremonti the fourth greatest guitarist of all time.
  • Face of the Band: Scott Stapp.
  • Fandom Rivalry: With Pearl Jam, whose fans (along with anyone who has working ears) accuse Scott Stapp of ripping off Eddie Vedder's singing style.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: They're very popular in Brazil.
  • Memetic Mutation: Scott's singing. And of course his last name, STAAAAAPPP!!!!!
  • Snark Bait: Nowadays, they're second only to Nickelback as the rock band most used as a joke on the internet.
  • Surprisingly Improved Sequel: Alter Bridge is composed of Creed's backup musicians, with a more talented singer.
  • Tear Jerker: "My Sacrifice," "With Arms Wide Open," "One Last Breath" and "Don't Stop Dancing" come to mind.
  • They Copied It, So It Sucks!: A third or so of the hate for them originates from how much they copy supposedly better bands, namely Pearl Jam.

The film:

  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Was Rocky telling the truth when he said that Apollo won the third fight, or was he just unwilling to tell Donny otherwise?
  • And You Thought It Would Fail:
    • When the film was first announced, many fans were less-than-enthusiastic, saying that Rocky Balboa had been a perfect send-off for the series and that this film would likely be a poor follow-up. As it turned out, it garnered even more critical acclaim than Rocky Balboa, and made back its budget in its first weekend alone. It also brought an Oscar nomination for Stallone, his first since the original Rocky.
    • Brad Jones summed it up perfectly. He was extremely skeptical of the movie when it was first announced because he thought Rocky Balboa was the perfect finale. He then found Creed so good that he was genuinely moved to tears.
  • Author's Saving Throw: The movie managed to do this for Rocky as a trainer. In Rocky V it was evident that he had no idea how to train Tommy Gunn and was just reliving his career through him while in Creed he managed to learn from his past mistakes and became a better trainer for Adonis.
  • Award Snub: Despite earning massive praise for its direction, cinematography, editing, acting and music, the film only has one Oscar nomination: Sylvester Stallone for Best Supporting Actor (which he didn't win in the end). Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan missing out are especially galling.
  • Awesome Music: Has its own original soundtrack, including the remix of the Rocky tune that plays during Donny and Rick's last round, as well as "Last Breath" by Future, which uses another remix to the famous tune as it's beat.
  • Even Better Sequel: Although Rocky Balboa had previously earned praise for being a Surprisingly Improved Sequel that successfully wrapped up the franchise, Creed has managed to actually outpace it, earning a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes and 82 on Metacritic. As a result, it has easily become the most well-reviewed film in the Rocky franchise since the original.
  • Fanfic Fuel: Adonis being defeated by Danny "Stuntman" Wheeler at the Delphi Gym opens up a lot of potential rivalry story-lines that could be used for sequels now that Adonis has been outed as Apollo Creed's son.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: At one point in the film Mary Anne Creed, played by Phylicia Rashad, watches a news report about how the revelation of Apollo Creed's infidelity could hurt his legacy. Mirroring those events, in 2015 Rashad's twice on-screen husband Bill Cosby faced numerous allegations of drugging and raping women hurting his own legacy.
  • He Really Can Act: Stallone does a great job himself, even earned him a Oscar nomination, but this movie will make you forget that Michael B. Jordan was ever in Fantastic Four (2015).
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: While the movie was still in production, Cracked ran an article declaring that it was going to be terrible. It argued that Creed was an unnecessary addition to the franchise, with specific pot shots taken at Michael B. Jordan's inability to make good career choices (comparing Creed to the above-mentioned Fantastic Four) and Stallone's involvement in the movie despite his age. We all know those predictions turned out...
  • Most Wonderful Sound: The soundtrack throughout most of the movie was awesome modern pieces. Then, toward the end of the final fight at the end of the film, the old Rocky Theme started playing.