YMMV / Creed

The band

  • Anvilicious: Scott Stapp isn't exactly known to be a master of subtlety, but even compensating for that, "In America" is still incredibly blunt.
  • Deader Than Disco: The backlash began right around the time they broke up and hasn't slowed down since; Today it is almost a social taboo to say that you are a Creed fan and just about everyone is ashamed of the Creed album they owned circa 2000. In 2013, readers of Rolling Stone magazine voted them as the worst band of the 1990s by such a wide margin the editors claimed the competition, "Wasn't even close", with much maligned Nickelback coming in a distant second. When Creed got back together and released Full Circle in 2009, it was slammed by critics and was a commercial failure, barely going gold. The subsequent concert tour didn't fare much better.
    • By 2014, Stapp was flat broke, living in a hotel, and possibly insane.
    • In 2001, in a negative review of Weathered, Allmusic called it "just another Creed album".
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: Total Guitar magazine named Mark Tremonti the fourth greatest guitarist of all time.
  • Face of the Band: Scott Stapp.
  • Fandom Rivalry: With Pearl Jam, whose fans (along with anyone who has working ears) accuse Scott Stapp of ripping off Eddie Vedder's singing style.
  • Love It or Hate It: In spite of their uncool reputation, they still have some pretty dedicated fans.
  • Snark Bait: Nowadays, they're second only to Nickelback as the rock band most used as a joke on the internet.
  • Tear Jerker: "My Sacrifice," "With Arms Wide Open," "One Last Breath" and "Don't Stop Dancing" come to mind.
  • They Copied It, So It Sucks: A third or so of the hate for them originates from how much they copy supposedly better bands, namely Pearl Jam.

The film:

  • Alternate Character Interpretation: Was Rocky telling the truth when he said that Apollo won the third fight, or was he just unwilling to tell Donny otherwise?
  • And You Thought It Would Fail:
    • When the film was first announced, many fans were less-than-enthusiastic, saying that Rocky Balboa had been a perfect send-off for the series and that this film would likely be a poor follow-up. As it turned out, it garnered even more critical acclaim than Rocky Balboa, and made back its budget in its first weekend alone.
    • Brad Jones summed it up perfectly. He was extremely skeptical of the movie when it was first announced because he thought Rocky Balboa was the perfect finale. He then found Creed so good that he was genuinely moved to tears.
  • Award Snub: Despite earning massive praise for its direction, cinematography, editing, acting and music, the film only has one Oscar nomination: Sylvester Stallone for Best Supporting Actor (which he didn't win in the end). Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan missing out are especially galling.
    • To be fair, with regards to Stallone, Mark Rylance's work in Bridge Of Spies was highly acclaimed and most actually did consider it deserving as far as upsets go (his incredibly moving acceptance speech doesn't hurt either). It just came down to two incredible performances, and one had to lose.
  • Even Better Sequel: Although Rocky Balboa had previously earned praise for being a Surprisingly Improved Sequel that successfully wrapped up the franchise, Creed has managed to actually outpace it, earning a 93% on Rotten Tomatoes and 82 on Metacritic. As a result, it has easily become the most well-reviewed film in the Rocky franchise since the original.
  • He Really Can Act: Stallone does a great job himself, but this movie will make you forget that Michael B. Jordan was ever in Fantastic Four (2015).
  • Most Wonderful Sound: The soundtrack throughout most of the movie was modern pieces. Then, toward the end of the final fight at the end of the film, the old Rocky Theme started playing. This troper was practically dancing in his seat.

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