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* FriendlyFandoms: ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'' fans are likely to be on board as both franchises have protagonists who gain the ability to transform into caniform forms and learn to like their new forms with their families also learning to appreciate them too. As an added bonus, both are set in Canada.

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* FriendlyFandoms: ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'' fans are likely to be on board as both franchises have protagonists who gain the ability to transform into caniform forms via spirits and learn to like their new forms with their families also learning to appreciate them too. As an added bonus, both are set in Canada.North America, and feature a conflict between two relatives as a major plot point.
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If the reaction to it is more positive than when it first came out, yes, it absolutely does count.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For a long period of time, it was considered one of Disney's weakest films, with some even ranking it alongside ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'' and ''WesternAnimation/ChickenLittle'', with complaints about anachronistic dialogue, a predictable plot, and unlikeable characters. In later years, however, many consider it an underrated gem in spite of its flaws, with many praising the themes of revenge and seeing past differences, along with the movie's criticism of the mindset of love being unmasculine. The film's vivid visuals and stunning wilderness scenery help it stand out as well. It's telling that there was a resurgence of merchandise in TheNewTwenties such as shirts, collectible pins, and a 20th anniversary Disney Sketchbook Ornament.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For a long period of time, it was considered one of Disney's weakest films, with some even ranking it alongside ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'' and ''WesternAnimation/ChickenLittle'', with complaints about anachronistic dialogue, a predictable plot, and unlikeable characters. In later years, however, many consider it an underrated gem in spite of its flaws, with many praising the themes of revenge and seeing past differences, along with the movie's criticism of the mindset of love being unmasculine. The film's vivid visuals and stunning wilderness scenery help it stand out as well. It's telling that there was a resurgence of merchandise in TheNewTwenties such as shirts, collectible pins, and a 20th anniversary Disney Sketchbook Ornament.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The film offers top-notch animation all throughout, as you would expect from Disney. However, Kenai's transformation sequence and the spirits dancing across the sky a la the Northern Lights are simply awe-inspiring. [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic The accompanying music helps a lot]].
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* VindicatedByHistory: For a long period of time, it was considered one of Disney's weakest films, with some even ranking it alongside ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'' and ''WesternAnimation/ChickenLittle'', with complaints about anachronistic dialogue, a predictable plot, and unlikeable characters. In more recent years, however, many consider it an underrated gem in spite of its flaws, with many praising the themes of revenge and seeing past differences, along with the movie's criticism of the mindset of love being unmasculine. The film's vivid visuals and stunning wilderness scenery help it stand out as well. It's telling that there was a resurgence of merchandise in TheNewTwenties such as shirts, collectible pins, and a 20th anniversary Disney Sketchbook Ornament.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For a long period of time, it was considered one of Disney's weakest films, with some even ranking it alongside ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'' and ''WesternAnimation/ChickenLittle'', with complaints about anachronistic dialogue, a predictable plot, and unlikeable characters. In more recent later years, however, many consider it an underrated gem in spite of its flaws, with many praising the themes of revenge and seeing past differences, along with the movie's criticism of the mindset of love being unmasculine. The film's vivid visuals and stunning wilderness scenery help it stand out as well. It's telling that there was a resurgence of merchandise in TheNewTwenties such as shirts, collectible pins, and a 20th anniversary Disney Sketchbook Ornament.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: "Well gee, [[CanadaEh eh]], you're one big beaver." It doubles as FridgeBrilliance if you remember that there was a giant species of beaver that existed during the time the movies take place.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: "Well gee, [[CanadaEh eh]], eh, you're one big beaver." It doubles as FridgeBrilliance if you remember that there was a giant species of beaver that existed during the time the movies take place.
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* {{Narm}}: The film spends most of its runtime building to the emotional confrontation where [[spoiler:Kenai tells Koda that he was the one who killed his mother]], only for the scene to be drowned out by Phil Collins' "No Way Out". Even fans of Collins' contributions to the movie tend to agree that this was a poor decision and detracted from one of the most important and emotional moments in the movie. It doesn't help matters that an earlier version of the scene actually exists without the song, leaving the full conversation intact as Kenai tells Koda the truth. It's almost unanimously agreed that this scene is superior to the finished product, leaving many viewers baffled as to why the song was even added.
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* FriendlyFandoms: ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'' fans are likely to be on board as both franchises have protagonists who gain the ability to transform into caniform forms and learn to like their new forms with their families also learning to appreciate them too.

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* FriendlyFandoms: ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'' fans are likely to be on board as both franchises have protagonists who gain the ability to transform into caniform forms and learn to like their new forms with their families also learning to appreciate them too. As an added bonus, both are set in Canada.
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** Sven even looks just like Rutt and Tuke the moose.

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** *** Sven even looks just like Rutt and Tuke the moose.moose.
** This also won't be [[WesternAnimation/BigHero6 the last time]] Disney would make an animated movie about a young boy whose older brother dies and vows revenge on his brother's killer, only to eventually realize that revenge is wrong after all.
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** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears. [[spoiler: And near the end of the movie, a family member of the bear-transformed character even tries to kill them after [[MistakenforOwnMurderer they falsely assumed they were killed by a bear]] (in ''Brother Bear'', the character's own brother, in this movie, the character's own husband]).]]

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** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears. [[spoiler: And near the end of the movie, a family member of the bear-transformed character even tries to kill them after [[MistakenforOwnMurderer they falsely assumed they were killed by a bear]] (in ''Brother Bear'', the character's own brother, in this movie, the character's own husband]).husband).]]
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** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears. [[spoiler: And near the end of the movie, a family member of the bear-transformed character even tries to kill them after [[MistakenforOwnMurderer they falsely assumed they were killed by a bear] (in ''Brother Bear'', the character's own brother, in this movie, the character's own husband]).]

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** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears. [[spoiler: And near the end of the movie, a family member of the bear-transformed character even tries to kill them after [[MistakenforOwnMurderer they falsely assumed they were killed by a bear] bear]] (in ''Brother Bear'', the character's own brother, in this movie, the character's own husband]).]]]

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** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears.

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** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears. [[spoiler: And near the end of the movie, a family member of the bear-transformed character even tries to kill them after [[MistakenforOwnMurderer they falsely assumed they were killed by a bear] (in ''Brother Bear'', the character's own brother, in this movie, the character's own husband]).]


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** Sven even looks just like Rutt and Tuke the moose.
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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain due to a huge misunderstanding who then [[CainandAbel opposes the protagonist sibling]] for most of the movie, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case again during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa in the finished movie instead ended up becoming a more heroic character, and her relationship with Anna being changed from being like that of the human brothers (Anna being more like Kenai) to that of the bear "brothers" (Elsa now being more like Kenai and Anna instead being more like Koda). In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s [[CutSong cut songs]], "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.

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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain due to a huge misunderstanding who then [[CainandAbel opposes the protagonist sibling]] for most of the movie, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn.HeelFaceTurn after realizing the error of their ways. This was almost the case again during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa in the finished movie instead ended up becoming a more heroic character, and her relationship with Anna being changed from being like that of the human brothers (Anna being more like Kenai) to that of the bear "brothers" (Elsa now being more like Kenai and Anna instead being more like Koda). In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s [[CutSong cut songs]], "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.
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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain who then opposes the protagonist, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna in the finished movie instead ended up both being protagonists much like Kenai and Koda in this movie. In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s [[CutSong cut songs]], "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.

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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain due to a huge misunderstanding who then [[CainandAbel opposes the protagonist, protagonist sibling]] for most of the movie, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case again during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna in the finished movie instead ended up both becoming a more heroic character, and her relationship with Anna being protagonists much changed from being like that of the human brothers (Anna being more like Kenai) to that of the bear "brothers" (Elsa now being more like Kenai and Koda in this movie.Anna instead being more like Koda). In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s [[CutSong cut songs]], "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.
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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain who then opposes the protagonist, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna in the finished movie instead ended up both being protagonists much like Kenai and Koda in this movie. In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s CutSongs, "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.

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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain who then opposes the protagonist, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna in the finished movie instead ended up both being protagonists much like Kenai and Koda in this movie. In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s CutSongs, [[CutSong cut songs]], "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.
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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain who then opposes the protagonist, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna ended up both being protagonists much like Kenai and Koda in this movie.

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** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain who then opposes the protagonist, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna in the finished movie instead ended up both being protagonists much like Kenai and Koda in this movie.movie. In fact, two of ''Frozen'''s CutSongs, "Cool With Me" and "Life's Too Short" would've been comparable to the Lava Field chase scene.
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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice] [[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.

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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice] voice]] [[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.
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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice [[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.

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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice voice] [[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.

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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice]]
[[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.

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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice]]
voice [[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.

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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice]] [[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.

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** In the Polish dub, Kenai is voiced by Bartosz Obuchowicz. This wouldn't be the last time when [[Main/CastingGag he will voice]] voice]]
[[WesternAnimation/WalkingWithDinosaurs a prehistoric animal living in Alaska]], or [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish a talking bear]]. Crosses into {{Main/Heartwarming In Hindsight}} if you had grow up with the movie and its sequel, and you're hearing Kenai again, through Patchi and Baby Bear.Bear.
** This wouldn't be [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} the last time]] Disney will make an animated movie about people turning into bears.
** The movie portrays the protagonist's biological older sibling eventually becoming the main antagonist by turning into a vengeful AntiVillain who then opposes the protagonist, with the two eventually confronting each other on a mountaintop, and the antagonistic older sibling eventually performing a HeelFaceTurn. This was almost the case during development of ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' until "Let it Go", originally written as a VillainSong was written, and as a result Elsa and Anna ended up both being protagonists much like Kenai and Koda in this movie.

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* QuestionableCasting: Admittedly, the actors that the filmmakers cast turned in superb performances, but given that this story is based on proto-Indigenous lore, it arguably would have made more sense -- and lent a shred of authenticity -- if they cast Indigenous (preferably Alaskan Native) actors for the human characters, in both the original film ''and'' the sequel.



* WTHCastingAgency: Admittedly, the actors that the filmmakers cast turned in superb performances, but given that this story is based on proto-Indigenous lore, it arguably would have made more sense -- and lent a shred of authenticity -- if they cast Indigenous (preferably Alaskan Native) actors for the human characters, in both the original film ''and'' the sequel.

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