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* AnAesop:
** The film's theme song, "The Greatest Adventure".
--->''The man who's a dreamer, and never takes leave\\
Who thinks of a world that is just make-believe\\
Will never know passion, will never know pain\\
Who sits by the window will one day see rain''
** Regarding the Battle of the Five Armies and how wars fought for greed are ''[[SillyReasonForWar incredibly]]'' [[SillyReasonForWar stupid]].
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* FrogMen: Gollum is depicted as particularly frog-like.

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* FrogMen: Gollum is depicted as particularly frog-like. The goblins also appear rather toadish, with their squat builds and bulging throats.
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** The only actual ''human'' in the movie is Bard.

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** Apart from a few townsfolk seen during Smaug's attack, The only actual ''human'' in the movie is Bard.

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* AdaptationalJerkass: The Elf-king just shows up to demand a share of treasure for flimsy reasons, when his book counterpart aided the Lake-men after the destruction of their town and was the most reluctant to go to war over the treasure. You can hardly blame Thorin for not wanting to give anything to that jackass.

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* AdaptationalJerkass: AdaptationalJerkass:
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The Elf-king just shows up to demand a share of treasure for flimsy reasons, when his book counterpart aided the Lake-men after the destruction of their town and was the most reluctant to go to war over the treasure. You can hardly blame Thorin for not wanting to give anything to that jackass.
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* BadassBaritone: Richard Boone and his depiction of Smaug.
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** After the Battle of Five Armies, Bilbo tells Bombur he got a slight crack on the head during the battle. While this references an actual injury he accrues in the book, the incident itself is never portrayed, giving the implication that Bilbo just straight up lied about his injury to cover for sitting the battle out.
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** Thorin himself has one when he randomly decides to withhold the entire treasure without sharing it with the people of Laketown, even after they slayed Smaug for him. While still a dick move in the book, there it at least made some sense considering the dwarves were coerced into making a deal in exchange for some desperately needed hospitality from them. Here he simply refuses to share because "the treasure belongs to the dwarves."
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** The elven-king is never shown visiting Laketown after its destruction; he simply arrives with an army to demand a share of the treasure.

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** The elven-king is never shown visiting Laketown after its destruction; he simply arrives with an army to demand a share of the treasure. Likewise, his scenes after the battle are left out.

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%%* AdaptationDistillation: Generally, the movie does a ''very'' nice job boiling down the novel into a good seventy minute movie.
* ADeathInTheLimelight: [[spoiler: Bombur, a minor character in the book is one of the only dwarves who is pushed into the background. He also TakesALevelInKindness and acts as a mentor to Bilbo when it's not Gandalf...and is killed off.]]
* AdaptationInducedPlotHole:

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%%* * AdaptationDistillation: Generally, the movie does a ''very'' nice job boiling down the novel into a good seventy minute movie.
movie. Reductions include:
** The dwarves all arrive at once, shortly after Gandalf, rather than individually or in groups the next day.
** The riddle game is shortened to two riddles apiece (rather than five each), not counting Bilbo's wondering "What have I got in my pocket?".
** The eagles fly the company directly to Mirkwood rather than to near Beorn's house, where they stayed for an extra day or so in the book.
** The enchanted river in Mirkwood, and Bombur's falling in and being rescued, is omitted.
** The earlier encounters with the wood-elves are alluded to, but never shown.
** Bilbo only goes into Lonely Mountain once, stealing the cup and then conversing with an awakened Smaug while discovering his weak spot. In the book, these happened in two separate visits.
** The elven-king is never shown visiting Laketown after its destruction; he simply arrives with an army to demand a share of the treasure.
** The plotline with the Arkenstone is left out, as is Thorin directly sending Roac the raven to contact Dain for help (instead, Dain's army simply shows up to help without having been asked for specifically).
** The entire journey home (save for a brief scene of Bilbo and Gandalf conversing) is unseen, along with Bilbo's actual homecoming and the auctioning of his belongings.
* ADeathInTheLimelight: [[spoiler: Bombur, a minor character in the book is one of the only dwarves who is pushed into the background. He also TakesALevelInKindness and acts as a mentor to Bilbo when it's not Gandalf... and is killed off.]]
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** The first meeting with the wood elves was left out...and then alluded to in the second meeting as "the wood elves had returned."

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** The first meeting with the wood elves was left out... and then alluded to in the second meeting as "the wood elves had returned."



* AdaptedOut: The stone giants, the Master of Laketown, Roäc the raven, Bolg, and, most notably, Beorn are omitted. Dáin is mentioned but does not appear. Also, the Arkenstone is omitted, and Gandalf never mentions the Necromancer. The Necromancer is referred to, but it is so vague that the audience wouldn't know Gandalf was referring to him if they only saw this.

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* AdaptedOut: The stone giants, the Master of Laketown, Roäc the raven, Bolg, and, most notably, Beorn are omitted. Dáin is mentioned but does not appear. Also, the Arkenstone is omitted, and Gandalf never mentions the Necromancer. The Necromancer is referred to, but it is so vague that the audience wouldn't know Gandalf was referring to him if they only saw this.this; he says only that he has "pressing business in the south". Bilbo's mythril coat is also omitted, with his instead receiving (and discarding, when he leaves the battlefield) a "deucedly uncomfortable" suit of armor "forged in the foundries of [Thorin's] grandfather".



%%* BigOlUnibrow: Gandalf.

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%%* * BigOlUnibrow: Gandalf.Unlike his book counterpart (who is specifically noted in ''The Fellowship of the Ring'' as having separate eyebrows), Gandalf sports one. Unlike most examples though, he is neither evil nor are he or his unibrow played for laughs.



* DeathByAdaptation: More of the Company die in the film, including [[spoiler:Bombur]]. At the end there are only six left alive.
* DistinguishedGentlemansPipe: Bilbo's

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* DeathByAdaptation: More of the Company die in the film, including [[spoiler:Bombur]]. At the end there are only six left alive.
alive; in the book, ten survived the battle, including the aforementioned character.
* DistinguishedGentlemansPipe: Bilbo'sBilbo is seen smoking one early on, though he doesn't get to bring it with him on the journey.
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* NoPronunciationGuide: In this film, Bofur and Smaug are pronounced as "Boffer" and "Smawg" rather than "Boafer" and "Smaog". However, Dáin is pronounced properly (''day''-in, rather than Dane).
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* DiseaseBleach: Bombur's hair is jet black for the first half of the movie. At some point in the second half, it turns white, possibly from all the stress of the company's close shaves, making the contrast between his lively introduction and [[spoiler: dying in Bilbo's arms]] all the sadder.

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** It's never explained how the Dwarves got the supplies necessary to travel through Mirkwood without meeting Beorn.

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** It's never explained how the Dwarves dwarves got the supplies necessary to travel through Mirkwood without meeting Beorn.



* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: Bard first appears during the Company's stay in Lake-Town, instead of the battle with Smaug.
* AdaptationalHeroism: With the Arkenstone cut, Bilbo's more dubious decisions regarding it are absent.

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* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: Bard first appears during the Company's stay in Lake-Town, instead of during the battle with Smaug.
* AdaptationalHeroism: With the Arkenstone cut, Bilbo's more dubious decisions regarding it are absent. Additionally, due to this change while Thorin still insults Bilbo for trying to avoid war with the Lakemen and elves, he never kicks him out of the company or implies he wouldn't be given his promised 1/14th share of the treasure.



* BloodlessCarnage: Despite the amount of violence involving swords found in the film, there's not a drop of blood to be seen anywhere.

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* BloodlessCarnage: Despite the amount of violence involving swords found in the film, there's not a drop of blood to be seen anywhere.anywhere except for a bit smeared on Thorin's bandages after the Battle of Five Armies.



* CueTheSun: The film makes it looks like Gandalf summoned the Sun.

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* CueTheSun: The film makes it looks like Gandalf actually summoned the Sun.Sun when he appears to save the dwarves from the trolls, instead of simply stalling the trolls by keeping them talking until sunrise the way he did in the book.



* MrExposition: Elrond.

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* MrExposition: Elrond.Elrond, whose dialog mostly consists of explaining to Bilbo (and the audience) what moon runes are and what the secret message on Thorin's map is.



* OurElvesAreDifferent: You can say that again.
** You see, Tolkien based his elves on the traditional myths about fairies, but by Tolkien's time, the term "fairy" had been corrupted to mean something unbearably twee, so Tolkien used the term "elf" instead, even though, as he well knew, traditional myths about elves were very different.
** The film, however, ''compounds'' on this, because it actually makes use of the very vague descriptions Tolkien gave for the elves in ''The Hobbit'' specifically - while Elrond looks very noble, the wood elves are much closer to the original Scandinavian depictions of such creatures, being short, a bit ugly, and having ''blue skin''. Which makes them very different from other depictions of elves in Tolkien's wake!

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* OurElvesAreDifferent: You can say that again.
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You see, Tolkien based his elves on the traditional myths about fairies, but by Tolkien's time, the term "fairy" had been corrupted to mean something unbearably twee, so Tolkien used the term "elf" instead, even though, as he well knew, traditional myths about elves were very different.
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different. The film, however, ''compounds'' on this, because it actually makes use of the very vague descriptions Tolkien gave for the elves in ''The Hobbit'' specifically - while Elrond looks very noble, the wood elves are much closer to the original Scandinavian depictions of such creatures, being short, a bit ugly, and having ''blue skin''. Which makes them very different from other depictions of elves in Tolkien's wake!



* TheSoCalledCoward: When Bilbo expresses reluctance to join in the war between the dwarves, elves, and men, Thorin rebukes him and calls him a coward. As a slight [[InvertedTrope inversion]], this is already after Bilbo has proven his bravery to the Company by rescuing them from the spiders and elves, and sneaking into Smaug's lair alone--all of which Bilbo points out as he stands his ground against Thorin's dismissive attitude.
* StealthHiBye: "Well he is a wizard, you know."

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* TheSoCalledCoward: When Bilbo expresses reluctance to join in the war between the dwarves, elves, and men, Thorin rebukes him and calls him a coward. As a slight [[InvertedTrope inversion]], this is already after Bilbo has proven his bravery to the Company by rescuing them from the spiders and elves, and sneaking into Smaug's lair alone--all alone-- all of which Bilbo points out as he stands his ground against Thorin's dismissive attitude.
attitude. When they meet again after the Battle of Five Armies, Thorin admits that he was wrong and apologizes to him for it.
* StealthHiBye: Discussed when Bilbo asks how Gandalf manages to keep appearing just ahead of the company during their travels without any of them having seen him. "Well he is a wizard, you know."



* TheWorldIsJustAwesome: When Bilbo climbs up the tree in Mirkwood for a look.
* YoureInsane: 14 against 10,000? [[PunctuatedForEmphasis "This is WAR! WAAAAAR!"]]

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* TheWorldIsJustAwesome: When Bilbo climbs up the tree in Mirkwood for a look.
look and finds himself surrounded by butterflies. The beauty of the sight is enough to make him feel like even if he never does return home, perhaps getting to see such things is worth it.
* YoureInsane: Bilbo points out how insane their plan is to the dwarves when he realizes that they fully intend to have the 14 of them go to war against 10,000? [[PunctuatedForEmphasis "This is WAR! WAAAAAR!"]]an assembled host of 10,000 Lakemen and Mirkwood elves. Thorin retorts that Bilbo just doesn't understand war.

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** It's never explained how the Dwarves got the supplies necessary to travel through Mirkwood without meeting Beorn.



** The dwarves never put out a call for reinforcements, leaving Dain's arrival just in time for the battle completely unexplained.

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** The dwarves never put out a call for reinforcements, leaving Dain's arrival just in time for the battle to be completely unexplained.unexplained.
* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: Bard first appears during the Company's stay in Lake-Town, instead of the battle with Smaug.
* AdaptationalHeroism: With the Arkenstone cut, Bilbo's more dubious decisions regarding it are absent.
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** You see, Tolkien based his elves on the traditional myths about fairies, but by Tolkien's time, the term "fairy" had been corrupted to mean something unbearably twee, so Tolkien used the term "elf" instead, even though, as he well knew, traditional myths about elfs (yes, Tolkien also invented the use of "dwarves," as opposed to "dwarfs," as the plural of "dwarf") were very different.

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** You see, Tolkien based his elves on the traditional myths about fairies, but by Tolkien's time, the term "fairy" had been corrupted to mean something unbearably twee, so Tolkien used the term "elf" instead, even though, as he well knew, traditional myths about elfs (yes, Tolkien also invented the use of "dwarves," as opposed to "dwarfs," as the plural of "dwarf") elves were very different.
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* AdaptedOut: The stone giants, Bilbo losing his buttons, the elvish blades only glowing when goblins are around (they seem to glow whenever it's convenient for lighting purposes), Bombur's fall into the enchanted stream, the Master of Laketown, Roäc the raven, Bolg, and, most notably, Beorn are omitted. Dáin is mentioned but does not appear. Also, the Arkenstone is omitted, and Gandalf never mentions the Necromancer. The Necromancer is referred to, but it is so vague that the audience wouldn't know Gandalf was referring to him if they only saw this.

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* AdaptedOut: The stone giants, Bilbo losing his buttons, the elvish blades only glowing when goblins are around (they seem to glow whenever it's convenient for lighting purposes), Bombur's fall into the enchanted stream, the Master of Laketown, Roäc the raven, Bolg, and, most notably, Beorn are omitted. Dáin is mentioned but does not appear. Also, the Arkenstone is omitted, and Gandalf never mentions the Necromancer. The Necromancer is referred to, but it is so vague that the audience wouldn't know Gandalf was referring to him if they only saw this.
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* ManlyFacialHair: The dwarves and Gandalf all have big beards, and Bard is given a big mustache.


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* PornStache: Bard has one. It's the '70s, after all.


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** The only actual ''human'' in the movie is Bard.
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* FreakOut: Gollum has a rather epic one upon discovering that his "precious" [[https://youtu.be/HN--EzTdXEA?t=622 has been stolen by Bilbo]]. As [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings later books]] would show, there is a ''very'' good reason for his attachment to it, beyond its (admittedly immense) practical use of making him invisible.

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* FreakOut: Gollum has a rather epic one upon discovering that his "precious" [[https://youtu.be/HN--EzTdXEA?t=622 has been stolen by Bilbo]].Bilbo. As [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings later books]] would show, there is a ''very'' good reason for his attachment to it, beyond its (admittedly immense) practical use of making him invisible.

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