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  • If Chuck Austen is loathed for any one thing (though there are many), then it's the storyline known as "The Draco" from his run on Uncanny X-Men. Here's a summary: it turns out Nightcrawler is the son of a demon named Azazel. No, wait, Azazel's just an immortal mutant who was banished to an alternate dimension, and it turns out that the angels and demons of Biblical myth were all early mutants. Oh, and Archangel's one of them, so his blood burns Nightcrawler. Until then, Nightcrawler was a devout Catholic, and his demonic looks were supposed to be ironic.
    • This comes across as especially stupid, as real Biblical angels and demons canonically exist in the Marvel Universe!
    • The entire plot of the Draco involved Kurt's devil-lookin' daddy teleporting out of Limbo to knock up women to sire him some teleporting young'uns that he can use to... get out of Limbo? Yeah, you read that right.
    • It turns out Nightcrawler's entire religious education and time as a priest was part of a brainwashing operation by an anti-mutant group that also hates the Catholic Church. They planned to get Nightcrawler installed as the Pope and then have his image inducer fail so he can be "revealed" as the Antichrist, while they simulate the Rapture using communion wafers that dissolve those who imbibe them.
    • From the same story: "Your power to detonate the air into superhot plasma, and, when pushed, to blow up people's brains from the inside, cannot affect me! I have stitched my eyes shut!" It's a paraphrase, but that's exactly what happened in-story. Luckily, Iceman then casually kills the villain in question by sucking out her body's moisture.
    • The "fake Rapture via disintegrating communion wafers" needs further explanation to understand the sheer, raw, blistering fail of it all. After a bunch of X-Men are lynched, the X-Men track the lynchers back to a church that Nightcrawler says made him a priest. Turns out he was made a priest by an insane Catholic sect (with its own pope!) as part of the most circuitous plan in the history of supervillains: Nightcrawler would be made a priest (done!) and then he would be made pope (how?); then they would have his hologram projector fail and reveal him to be a mutant and "the devil" and then use bioweapons hidden in communion wafers across the nation to stage a false Rapture. After this, mutantkind would be hunted down and killed (why?), and mankind would turn to the Church of Humanity to find salvation (why?) after western civilization falls... for some reason. Now, presumably, if you have ever read an X-Men comic or, you know, a book in your life, then you understand all the flaws in this plan... for instance, Catholics don't believe in the Rapture... but beyond that, it raises a myriad of questions it utterly fails to answer. What happened to the rest of the communion wafers? (You know, the ones in the other churches.) How did this sect get its own pope? Why was this pope female? Why Nightcrawler? Why not any other mutant? (Okay, those last two can be guessed.) Why, just why?
    • And then we have Iceman shattered in thousand of pieces. The other X-Men come up with a plan to revive him: "Well, both ice and the human body are made mostly of liquids, so why don't we all just urinate on his remains?" Squick. Basically, Ice-Man just revived himself after overhearing that plan.
  • X-Men Angel and Husk hooking up, flying up in the sky, and having sex right in front of everyone, including Husk's mother.
  • A small wallbanger in the greater scheme of things, but many readers hated Austen's handling of Polaris. Mental issues, fine. Romance issues, fine. Turning her into a completely batshit, likely unfaithful harpy to make the muggle character he'd based on his own wife look like the perfect saintly match for Havok? Not cool.
  • Speaking of X-Men, Scott Summers marries someone who looks like Jean, and we are expected to believe that it's not a rebound. When Jean comes back, he isn't excused for abandoning his wife; but the only way the writers knew to fix it was to make Madelyne a clone of Jean. Then they not only made her immediately Ax-Crazy and evil, but also told us that she was Ax-Crazy and evil ever since Scott left.
    • Then some guys Running the Asylum, declare that they didn't like Jean coming back, and order Grant Morrison to kill her off and have Scott start dating Emma over Jean's grave. To justify this, Jean's ghost made Scott forget his feelings for her to keep him from leaving the X-Men. But the way it's done makes it look as though she cares about nothing but Scott's happiness, which is not in any way what Jean was like before. Not to mention how crapily used Scott was, see below.
    • Not many people realize it, but Scott Summers is the Butt Monkey of the Marvel Universe. Writers LOVE doing bad things to him AND making him look bad at the same time.
  • Grant Morrison's New X-Men - The twist that Xorn (a superpowered being who was locked up in a Chinese prison for having a black hole contained in his head) was Magneto. That specific plot twist was built up for two years, and was interesting and unexpected. You can't believe you didn't see it coming. The Man from Room X turning out to be the X-Men's biggest enemy was critically-praised and was the most interesting thing to happen to the franchise in years. The problem is how it was handled after that. It turned out that it wasn't Magneto. No, Xorn just thought he was and looked just like Mags. Oh, and Xorn has a brother with the same powers and the personality he pretended to have as one of the X-Men, just so that they'd still be able to use either character. The status quo IS God, huh?
    • Even worse was the way "Xorneto" acted upon The Reveal. Trashing Manhattan? OK, Magneto's done it before. But drug use? Herding innocent Muggles into crematoriums?! The reason he got INTO villainy in the first place was being a victim of the Holocaust! While this was all relatively in line with Magneto's original characterization, it doesn't match what the character had evolved into since then. The Retcon that Magneto had nothing to do with Xorn's actions was a critical Author's Saving Throw.
    • Magneto's last use of something that enhanced Mutant powers - or, rather, someone, one Fabian Cortez - backfired on him spectacularly! "Magneto" shouldn't have gone anywhere near the stuff.
    • From the classic Floating Hands production "Death Becomes Them"...
      Magneto: That wasn't me.
      Wolverine: Oh really now?
      Magneto: That was actually Xorn's evil twin brother, possessed by the sentient mold Sublime, pretending to be me, pretending to be Xorn.
      Beast: That defies all logic!
    • Also during the run was the Scott/Emma/Jean love triangle. Scott, suffering from PTSD, starts doubting everything in is life, including his marriage to Jean. When Jean seeks solace in Wolverine, Emma takes advantage of the situation by offering Scott therapy lessons with her previously never-mentioned psychology degrees. Cue her then giving him 'sexual therapy' where she deals with his issues by mind sex. OK, most of the characters and readers agree this is wrong, however, they make the mistake of calling Scott out when, legally, this is rape. Scott is a patient, Emma is treating him and convinces him that sleeping with her in his mind is a good idea, that's blatantly taking advantage of someone who's in a vulnerable state. Had their genders been swapped, people would be up in arms over it. Yet nobody at all in the story calls Emma out except Jean, only for Xavier to call Jean out on this because Emma as only doing it because she's in love with Scott. Then, when Scott is tossed into another bout of depression he decides to sort everything out, only for Jean to die in battle before he could tell her how he feels, followed by Jean coming back in the future and a long convoluted series of events leading to her making Scott move on with his life and get with Emma. At no point has anyone in the various X-Men books called out Emma, who in the end is rewarded by being promoted to headmistress and co-leader of the team, on the fact she got to where she is by taking advantage of someone's mental issues and rape.
  • In Wolverine #43, Wolverine was Stripped to the Bone from a blast by Nitro (yes, that Nitro). It took less than five pages for Wolverine to fully regenerate. If Wolverine could survive that, then he can survive lethal threats like being shot, stabbed, drowned, nuked, etc.; this kills some of the suspense. To add salt to the wound, after being cornered, Nitro decided to take Wolverine hostage by putting a knife up his throat after HAVING WITNESSED WOLVERINE FULLY REGENERATE FROM BEING STRIPPED TO THE BONES BY A NUKE!
    • An additional Wallbanger comes when Wolverine starts beating up Nitro, while he explains in his narration that he has noticed how Nitro's explosions don't harm himself. He then concludes that Nitro has a safety area around him, in which the blast doesn't effect anything. So Wolverine can beat him up because any blast wouldn't effect him from that range anymore. However, back at the beginning of Civil War, Namorita stands all of 10 centimeters away from Nitro, whom she holds against a bus. We clearly see her getting blasted to bits when Nitro causes the Stamford incident.
    • To put that in perspective: the creators of the X-Men Origins: Wolverine game considered having a scene where Wolverine was skeletonized by a nuclear meltdown and could briefly be controlled as a walking skeleton. They dropped it because it was too over-the-top.
    • According to the 2008 Logan miniseries, on August 6, 1945, Wolverine was in Hiroshima when the nuclear bomb dropped on it. He was in the blast radius. This bomb killed 140,000 civilians, but Wolverine survived - and no one else in the blast radius did. Mark that in your history books.
    • In the early 1990s, Wolverine nearly died in the "Fatal Attractions" storyline when Magneto ripped the adamantium out of his body. That's far less an injury than what Wolverine would effortlessly live through later.
      • He has since been nerfed down. Shortly after the aforementioned battle against Nitro, Marvel pulled an Author's Saving Throw with a convoluted Wolverine arc, which explained that a supernatural entity (some kind of Angel of Death guardian) used to magically bring him back to life every time (after the blast from Nitro in "Civil War", after the "Fall of Avalon", during "Enemy of the State" and many other times), but only if Wolverine managed to defeat him in battle. After a conversation with this guardian, Wolverine at last told "death" that he didn't want its help anymore, even if that meant (as the guardian warned him) that his healing factor would return to what it used to be (that is, not at a "regenerating from a single cell" level).
  • Kyle and Yost busted out with their own Wall Banger at the start of their run on the series. Following the vast majority of mutants getting depowered (for the heinous editorial crime of having too large a population numbering about half the number of colorblind people in the world), the X-Men are handed a big ol' Idiot Ball and proceed to boot all the depowered students out of the school without protection so they can be blown up by rockets, and then leave the school undefended so a few more students can be killed. What was the plot reason for this? The writers didn't know what to do with the characters. You know, the characters they already Put on a Bus. Expect a few Back From The Deads in ten years.
    • Then this follows up with Cyclops shutting the whole place down and sending all the kids home, when in reality they were just moving the team to San Francisco and would get the kids later. So why not just bring the kids with them in the first place?! Mutants are almost all gone, you'd think Cyclops and all X-Men would make sure to try to keep the few remaining young mutants left in the world as safe as possible! This leads into Trance going back to the parents who hate her and getting kidnapped by a duo of villains and needing to be rescued by Wolverine. Even worse, it leads into the first story arc of the horrid Young X-Men, where Donald Pierce, disguised as Cyclops, recruits four of these young ex-students (and some guy named Ink) and tricks them into taking down some of the New Mutants. Let's ignore the fact that two of these kids could have probably recognized a cyborg in the room, cloaking device or not, and focus on one of these kids, namely Nicholas Gleason, better known as Wolf Cub. Despite seldom getting any time in the comics, for those who paid attention, he was one of the youngest mutants remaining on the entire planet, and was a rather naive and impressionable kid, with examples being his believing Rockslide's ludicrous stories, and later on trying to act like Wolverine, right down to the speech patterns, and as the series chugged along, we saw he was really not the tough guy he was trying to be and was still just a sensible young teen. So who ends up dead in Young X-Men? Yup, Wolf Cub. One of the kids Cyclops sent back home. Except that Wolf Cub was an orphan (with hints that his parents were murdered), and he first came into Xavier's because Chamber and freaking Cyclops himself were the ones who rescued him from some mutant haters who were trying to kill him! Way to go, Cyclops, kick out a kid no older than 14 years old, one of the youngest of the very few mutants remaining on the planet, whom you know is an orphan and has no place to go, let him fend for himself in a world that mostly hates his kind, don't keep tabs on him or most of the other kids, all cause you want to play sullen hero that returns with big fanfare in a new city! The kids will be just fine in the meantime, but oops, sorry, Nicholas is dead now.
  • Following the Messiah Complex event, Kyle & Yost's New X-Men got cancelled, and a new series titled Young X-Men (written by Marc Guggenheim) came out with several of the fan favorites in the lineup. The first arc features Magma, one of the New Mutants, killing New X-Men Dust by turning her to glass and shattering her. She gets reassembled and turned back later; but this leads into further Wall Banger territory. Not only does no one mention that this was all Magma's fault, but she also never apologizes for it. Oh, and Dust never fully recovers from the process and drops dead a few issues later. Dust gets revived again, but apparently the process will turn her evil and lead her to murder every single X-Men in the future. Yeah, turning a devoted Muslim evil is going to work out great!
    • It gets even worse in the New Mutants series. Illyana Rasputin, aka Magik, had previously stolen a part of New X-Men Pixie's soul during a New X-Men arc where Belasco had kidnapped the New X-Men and trapped them in Limbo. During the X-Infernus event, Pixie loses another piece of her soul to Belasco's daughter; everyone ignores the traumatized girl who just had part of her soul ripped out and only focuses on Magik. Later, Magik shows up on Earth, having escaped from Limbo, and the rest of the New Mutants welcome her back with open arms. When Pixie's teammates are understandably upset at this, the New Mutants claim, "She deserves to be here more than you do." Yeah, and Magik is laughing about it right in front of them, all the while Sunspot and Cannonball are threatening to beat the kids up if they are in any way hostile towards Magik. Once again, the New X-Men are treated like whiny children for daring to be upset at the girl who stole part of their friend's soul being welcomed back with open arms. Face meet palm.
    • Think it couldn't possibly get worse when it comes to the X-Kids and Magik? Think again. After the Purifiers mess up her teleportation ability, Magik — or rather, a demonic copy of her that Warlock has already warned the leaders isn't the real Magik — is pulled back into Limbo. After Colossus goes completely berserk over this, Cyclops agrees that they need all the teleporters they can get and says they'll get her back. How do they plan to do this? By forcing Pixie, who has a legitimate beef with Magik, to be the transport for a team to get her. Unfortunately, she is their sole remaining teleporter: Ariel and Nightcrawler are both dead, the X-Men booted out Cloak because he was a science-based mutate, and Vanisher has, um, vanished. And to top it off, Sam chews out Anole and Trance for siding with Pixie when she initially refused to go. Hey, grownups? When the kids you're supposed to be protecting and teaching have come to the conclusion that you'd let them die in a ditch to save a fake, evil copy of one of your own, and they might well be correct — you're doing the 'protecting mutantkind' thing wrong!
      • Considering Kyle and Yost's involvement in Wolverine and the X-Men, the way he's depicted in X-Force under their wing, and the episode of X-Men: Evolution that introduced X-23 involving Scott getting The Worf Effect, it's fair to assume they just dislike the character, save for the subplot in another episode of Evolution that they wrote, they've yet to write him competent, likable, or even fairly.
  • In Exiles, the villain Proteus ends his Body Surf by taking over Morph. Fine. They solve this problem by brainwashing Proteus to think he's Morph. Disturbing but not unreasonable. Then they find out that, if Proteus/Morph ever learns the truth, he'll slaughter them all and then escape into the multiverse to kill every living thing everywhere. Their response? Go to the beach and hope it doesn't happen.
  • Deadly Genesis. So the third Summers brother mentioned by Mr. Sinister is finally revealed. He wants to kill everyone because Xavier sent him and some friends on a suicide mission to Krakoa to rescue the original X-Men. The original story said firmly that Xavier wouldn't send rookies to save his team when he could call his friends in the Avengers or Fantastic Four or something. This massive retcon has him sending not one, but TWO, teams of completely inexperienced mutants to rescue his students; and the second rescue team goes AFTER the first team was butchered. When Cyclops and Havok are upset that their brother was killed, Xavier erases everyone's memory of the slaughtered rescue team and creates a new version of the story in their heads. There are many reasons Xavier's behavior makes no sense. There is also no way in this version of the story for Mr. Sinister to know about the existence of the third Summers brother.
  • In the 1990s, Marvel decided to put Rogue in a romantic subplot with fellow French-speaking Southerner Gambit, which resulted in a major Character Derailment for Rogue to suit the "man of mystery" status of the Cajun. Firstly, he hinted that he might be immune to her absorption power, secondly when he was monologizing away from the others he had a deep, dark secret in his past (which later turned out that he had worked for Mr. Sinister and had been involved, albeit in a non-killing capacity, in the Mutant Massacre). Rogue got handed the Idiot Ball, and so even though Gambit continually teased her about it, she always was too scared to put the immunity hypothesis to the test by simply touching him. Which was a complete break from how she had used her power before.note  Before Claremont left, she had often absorbed other people's powers and memories, sometimes even playfully, and experience showed that it usually did not cause great problems to her or the "donors". So in order to motivate her out-of-character hesitancy or phobia Marvel decided to rewrite her origin by now declaring that Cody Robbins, the first person on whom she had (accidentally) used her power, never woke from his absorption-induced coma. Well, if that is the case and the permanent absorption of Ms. Marvel's memories that had plagued Rogue for so long, then it is understandable that she is hesitant to try touching Remy, right? Maybe, but now her entire behaviour before she met him makes sense no more. Had this happened, then Rogue must logically have concluded from the first time it was used that her absorption power always put the people she touched into a permanent coma, and thus she would not have kissed another boy shortly afterwards or her surrogate mother Mystique (both of these things happened in Classic X-Men back-up stories set in her pre-Brotherhood years).
  • The all-female X-Men team book has one in Jubilee's sheer inept parenting. Her motivation for even having Shogo (the child) is flimsy, but then she basically leaves the child with Teen Iceman and Teen Beast so that she can nap. They are teenagers from the '80s, what parenting ability do they have?! Hell, being near Iceman can't be good for a baby's health. Worst part? They never even asked for the baby! Sure, Jubilee is tired, but that doesn't mean she can just ditch the baby on anyone in her line of sight! Worst still, after the X-Men come back from forcing Teen Cyclops and Jeen to go back to their time, condemning Jeen to death, and being visibly exhausted from this, she implies she's gonna force one of them to babysit.
  • Jason Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men is a title with very questionable quality, but it can be very mind-crushing at times with how stupid it can be, especially with the fact that it's constantly trying to push Quinten Quire as a cool jerk with a heart of gold, when he's an annoying selfish sociopath. Worst point of this though is probably when he meets Jeen for the first time, and after mentally tripping over himself over how amazing it is to meet the actual Jean Grey, he then tries to hit on her, but before he does she thanks him for treating her like a human being. What? Jean, that's the exact opposite of what he was treating you as. He acts like she's a prize for him to score and gloat about, specifically just because of how amazing she's supposed to be, and she considers this a good thing? What the hell! Sure, she's probably used to boys gawking at her, what with how things used to be back in the early days when she was the only girl, but she seems annoyed at how everyone acts like she's the messiah, and is relieved he's not treating her like that, but that's exactly how he's treating her, just a messiah he wants to sleep with.
    • And then, there's the repeated times Wolverine and Cyclops have had arguments, starting from Schism and ending in issue 40, where each time, without fail, Wolverine will end the arguments with the last word in, be treated like the side we're supposed to take, and act like a hypocrite. Except, each time Wolverine's argument seems to be 'it's OK when I do bad things because I'm a bad person, but everyone else has to be perfect!' Okay, he might have, arguably, some point, but that's still unfair standards to hold people to, especially considering the two points he argues about the most are either 'you killed Xavier' or 'you let teenagers help fight villains'. Let's ignore how blatantly unfair that first argument is, especially since he himself has killed people, X-Men included, while not in control of himself and hasn't had to pay for any of that (and that he was largely responsible for the events of Avengers vs X-Men, which lead to said killing). The second point, which seems to be the big driving point between them, blatantly ignores 50 years of continuity as the X-Men have constantly taken young mutants out into battle. If he's going to get angry and compare it to child soldiers now, he's a few years (and hand-picked sidekicks) late. It's especially stupid considering that he picked this argument when the X-Men were at their Darkest Hour, and honestly didn't have much choice but to let the powerful and skilled teenagers fight since the alternative was to let themselves get slaughtered, with there being only 200 mutants left in the world, not all of them good.
      • Oh, and how is that issue regarding Wolverine killing people addressed? Cyclops outright calls Wolverine out on his hypocrisy, and asks them to compare body counts. Cyclops: 1 Wolverine: Over 9000. How does Wolvie respond? Direct quote here: "Nobody I've killed matters." Wow.
    • It gets worse during Aaron's Battle Of The Atom issues, where not only does Wolverine pick a terrible time to start arguing (namely when they've just lost track of the future Brotherhood), but Storm, Kitty, and Teen!Scott get in on this as well (though, Kitty targets Magik, not Scott himself with her petty barb), the latter two being incredibly stupid choices considering that the first issue of the crossover had them working with Scott's side and actually admitting he's not as bad as Wolverine makes him out to be, making their barbs and arguments come out of nowhere, especially since it contradicts what Bendis was doing with Kitty an the O5 jumping to Scott's side. Hell, Kitty gives Magik a hug in the final issue, and the two have massive amounts of Les Yay after (as always).
  • Origin II became this in the last two issues, the resulting Plot Twists making the entire series a waste of fucking time. It's revealed that Clara, the Friend to All Living Things that Wolverine falls for, is in fact Creed's sister... Wait, then why the hell would she call him Creed?! Seriously, who calls their sibling by a shared last name?! Then, after Logan kills the guy (for some reason thinking this would please Clara), we learn that, no, he wasn't Victor Creed, but a completely not-mentioned-until-now little brother! Genius! Except Logan didn't seem to forget killing him, so why would he not in some way recognise Victor years later when they met? They look the same and have the same power set and last name! The only justification is that Logan's Healing Factor suppressed the memories, like with the events of Origin, but these events aren't nearly as traumatic as killing your first love, father, and being hunted by your home town! If anything, it lessens the value of the original story, since apparently anything will cause Logan's healing factor to suppress memories.
    • Furthermore, it is completely unknown what happened to Clara Creed, who, for all intents and purposes, is as immortal as Victor and Logan, barring beheading and drowning, and given her life (animal handler), neither would make sense unless Victor killed her, which just adds to the wall's impact crater.
    • Also, this story retcons that Sabretooth was an abusive older brother, regularly pouring acid onto Lil Creed's face, and making him do it to Clara (who did not have a Healing Factor yet, thus making the scars permanent) once to get out of it! This is a man who was previously established to care deeply for his loved ones, at least before his Face-Heel Turn, and had to literally chew his own arm off because his father chained him up in the basement! He visited his mom until her death, and his whole reason for hating Logan is that he lost his happy ending because of him! And now he was apparently never a good person...
      • Furthermore, Clara's scars should have healed! The mutant healing factor Logan and Victor's families possess does not need the wound to be from after their powers manifested. A case could be made for the wound being chemically inflicted, but we've seen the Howlett and Creed families' bodies reject foreign substances and material, so Clara at the very least shouldn't be blind in one eye.
    • To fully complete the circle of pointlessness and send one's head through the wall, the comic was implied to show the meeting between Logan and Victor, with a grinning, fanged mouth with golden hair shown on a cover, and a solicitation saying "Enter: CREED", and in no way does. In fact, it's quite obvious that this story in no way affected the two characters. Five issues just became worthless because the writer wanted a twist. Worse still, this was blatantly trolling, because it's pretty obvious that readers are reading to learn about the first meeting between two arch-nemesis! The air of smugness around the comic is absurd. The question has to be asked: What was this the origin of? The first series was actually Logan's origin story; how his powers manifested, his real name, his home life, and why he can't remember parts of his life. This series explains absolutely nothing about anything and raises more questions than it answers!

    Films 
  • X-Men: The Last Stand: Storm expresses Moral Outrage that anyone would want to stop being a mutant when talking to a giant blue freak, a man who is constantly forced to cut his flesh open to use some of his powers, and a girl who is unable to touch anyone, including the man she loves, for fear of killing them. At least Beast does call her out on her bullshit.
    • Aside from the adamantine claws and skeleton, Wolverine's main power is regeneration. His Healing Factor is the entire effing reason that he has a poisonous metal skeleton - without it, he wouldn't have ever been used for the experiment.
    • Reappearing bullet holes.
    • Wolverine's original powers involved bone claws as well as the healing, so adamantium or not, he'd still have to rip holes in his hands to shoot out the claws. The Adamantium skeleton and claws just give him increased durability.
    • Beast does call her out on that by gently reminding her that not every mutant in the room has her advantage of being able to pass as a normal, attractive human.
    • The Abridged Script
    Halle Berry: A cure? But there's nothing wrong with us!
    Halle Berry: I mean, unless you count being covered in bright blue fur, being unable to touch someone, or having mental powers so uncontrollable that you are a danger to the entire world.
    • One could argue that Storm was outraged that the "Cure" implied that mutants were suffering from some sort of illness. It still was tactless, though.
    • While Rogue is indeed the best example of any potential good that could come of it, I think Angel's line from Wolverine and the X-Men sums it up nicely:
    "I don't need a cure, father! Because this (takes off coat, revealing wings) IS NOT A DISEASE!"
    • This is even more headache inducing in the first film where Professor X explains to Rogue that the "anonymity" is the mutant's best weapon. Well jeez Professor that's awfully convenient seeing as how everyone on your team looks perfectly normal, worst any of them have to put up with is a pair of goofy glasses, while everyone on Magneto's team would stand out if you saw them from across the street. At night. While they were wearing heavy clothing. Seriously, how is the 7 foot tall, fanged, furry Sabretooth supposed to "blend?"
    • What in blazes was the point of Mystique getting herself captured, only to be busted out by Magneto, shot down defending him, and left nude in the truck for all to see?! She basically got Stuffed into the Fridge. What the hell Ratner?!!
      • To be fair though, Raven did get what could be considered a Crowning Moment Of Awesome. She basically ratted out Magneto and his group to the Authorities, giving them secret information on the campsite they were staying at, which eventually led to the capture of Multiple Man.
      • Uh, not much of a victory, considering Multiple Man was acting as a decoy for the entire camp they'd been hoping to capture.
      • And in the Novelization, she is one of the few mutants at the very end who appear to slightly be getting their powers back.
    • Having Jean kill the love of her life accidentally was bad enough, but did she have to do it offscreen? And no one seems to give a damn that Scott's dead afterward.
    • Really, X2 had this problem as well, killing off people just for the hell of it. Jean Grey's death in X2 was the most idiotic plot device with the thinnest justification ever. Let's see, there's a mountain of water crashing toward the Blackbird, so Jean decides to go outside, stand in the water's path so she can be conveniently killed, and lift the Blackbird to safety. As opposed to everyone getting out of the Blackbird and her lifting them to safety (cause we can always get another Blackbird, but presumably we can't get another Jean Grey), or better yet, everyone stay in the Blackbird and she can lift it from in the plane (something she can do in the comics, but this is the movie so I guess that's anyone's call). Nobody took even 5 seconds to think about this. Idiot Ball anyone?
    • Considering how in The Last Stand she gets sad/suicidal when feeling Phoenix is taking over, maybe she thought the "overly powerful phase" which manifested a few times through that movie was something to get rid of.
    • Apparently Jean wasn't even supposed to die in the original script and she lived at the end of the novelization (which was also based on the original script).
    • Or Bobby could get out and freeze all that water. And then they could fly off at a nice and leisurely pace. Maybe pop a tape into the deck. Play a few rounds of 20 Questions.
    • Iceman can "build" a wall of ice, sure. But compare the size of that with that incoming surge! Would be pretty hard.
      • Actually, considering how difficult it should be to instantly freeze the water vapor in the air into a good foot thick or so wall, freezing liquid water should be considerably easier for him.
      • Freezing the water, sure, but he can't cancel the kinetic force. They're better off being hit by water than ice.
      • I'm pretty sure Cyclops's eyebeam things can vaporize water. Nightcrawler could teleport them to safety a few at a time. Storm could generate wind to blow the water away from the plane, or she could lift the plane with a tornado, or lower the temperature outside to subzero so the water would freeze. Her death was a suicide, but definitely an unnecessary one.
      • Cyclops's eyebeams are concussive force, not heat, at least as far as the source material goes. I believe that would preclude any water vaporization.
      • To be fair: Nightcrawler has difficulty teleporting more than a few yards by himself, saying nothing about carrying passengers, and teleporting multiple people in a short span of time has been known to leave him in a borderline comatose state in the comics. Storm and Iceman probably could have done something though, especially since they are two of the most powerful (omega level) mutants.
      • None of this changes the fact that if Jean could stop the water from outside the plane, she could've stopped it from inside too.
    • The plane wallbanger is actually lampshaded. During his talk with Professor X, Wolverine can't understand why she left the plane when there was another way, so even he seems to think he death was entirely unnecessary. This carries with it the implication that Jean's stupidity is actually a conscious decision to let herself be hit with the water, for whatever reason.
    • In his X2 commentary Bryan Singer admitted that Storm or Iceman could have easily saved the X-Men and the Blackbird from the wall of oncoming water, but decided to have Jean die while saving the X-Men because Jean always dies in the comics and it would be the dramatic death the film needed.
    • And changing Wolverine's Character Development arc from "amnesiac loner with a Dark and Troubled Past discovers his own humanity" to "amnesiac loner with a Dark and Troubled Past discovers the value of teamwork" was inexcusable.
    • Does anyone buy that mutants would suddenly be accepted by the rest of human society and not actively hunted down after an army of them attack soldiers, show just one can move the entire golden gate bridge and another that can create a massive vortex of sheer vaporizing power? Honestly? Just because one group of mutants fought another group of mutants, all mutants are good until proven otherwise?
      • This was acknowledged in one scene, in which the president tells Beast that he's trying to do his best to keep things smooth, but that he worries about how the world will survive with mutants "who can lift cities with their minds".
    • 3 was just one long Wallbanger. Magneto simply abandoning a close friend who incidentally knows all of his plans? Maybe he'd treat her as needing to be cured of not being a mutant, but simply leaving her there was ludicrously out of character.
      • Except that it was apparently deliberate. Mystique was "abandoned" so that she could turn state's evidence on Magneto by revealing the location of his secret base... his FAKE secret base, inhabited entirely by Multiple Man... keeping the military busy while he assembled his army elsewhere. Presumably she VOLUNTEERED for this gambit.
      • For that matter, Magneto not giving half a shit that his oldest friend, the person dearest to him in all the world, got killed right in front of him. This was apparently Derailing Magneto: The Movie.
      • And then there's the whole idea of the mobile prisons. This was apparently Executive Meddling (the Alcatraz sequence was supposed to be the jailbreak, but Magneto moving the Golden Gate was the big effect shot, so it got shunted illogically to the end of the movie and the script made approximately three times as idiotic to compensate) but this doesn't excuse the utter stupidity of trying to keep someone away from Magneto by putting them in a convoy of poorly defended metal things, or the logistics of keeping a convoy of vehicles in constant motion.
      • And then there's the Alcatraz scene itself. Soooooo, let's get this straight: Magneto has lifted the Golden Gate Bridge. Magneto wants to kill someone in an exposed cell on the top floor of the complex. Magneto for some reason doesn't think to either drop the bridge on the building or just crush the whole reinforced concrete structure using its own rebars. Idiot Ball, anyone?
      • Possibly he was aware that the cure was itself a mutant and was hoping to recruit/kidnap it for his own purposes rather than kill it? Wouldn't be the first time Magneto was better-informed than anyone else in the series, or putting mutant life on the level most real-world humans put human life even when it's an ostensible enemy. Notice how the only x-man he really beats on much is wolverine, whose entire deal is being able to take said beating easily. And how his betrayal of his mutant cohort as mentioned above was actually a fake that the film implies the main characters were stupid to fall for.
    • When I first saw this in middles school I couldn't figure out how Porcupine Man showed up to kill Dr. Rao after falling off a building. Catching it agian on TV I decided there must be tow characters with porcupine powers. I'll leave it up to you to decide which explanation is stupider.
  • X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The final villain is Deadpool. Yes, Deadpool. Oh, and he can now shoot concussive force blasts(!) from his eyes and teleport without a device, and his katanas are retractable just like Wolverine's claws (which led fans to call him Barakapool).
    • The next question: didn't his new wristanas look a bit longer than his forearms were? So he can't have had them fully sheathed and bent his arms at the same time?
      • Lady Deathstrike's claws were significantly longer than her fingers, likely the same deal.
      • Yes, but wouldn't her claws be able to go past the wrist?
      • I remember looking at the X2 website a long time ago, and I remember this opening animation of LD's claws coming out as segments. It's silly but maybe that's how she can move her fingers; the claws are only in her fingertips.
    • Also, his mouth was stitched shut. Yes, that's right, The Merc With the Mouth was gagged. Unleash Nerd Rage!
      • The Stinger shows the mouth is free again for random babbling in the spin-off.
    • And then there's the whole Adamantium bullets thing. Ok, so you've got bullets that can kill/memory wipe Wolverine (somehow) and you don't think of giving them to Agent Zero. You know, the guy who could hit him from a mile away blindfolded! I mean, maybe Stryker wanted to do it personally, but it's a stupid thing not to do.
      • Wait a minute: Wouldn't you need a barrel made from even harder alloy to even fire those?
      • No, you just need to lubricate the bullets to minimize damage to the barrel. Armour piercing rounds are made from in tungsten and that's much harder than the barrel's steel.
      • And it's not as if his skull was vaporized/replaced by molten adamantium 30 minutes earlier with no harmful side effects. Oh wait...
      • Even more to the point: bullets do not work that way! Bullets have to be made from soft metal or they don't catch the rifling in the barrel, won't spin, and will fire like a musket, even from a sniper rifle.
      • The bullets are probably an adamantium penetrator jacketed in something softer, like copper or cupronickel. The same kind of thing that jackets an FMJ round. That's how they make armour piercing bullets now.
    • Stryker has a revolver. This revolver has a six-bullet capacity. He fires all six bullets at Wolverine, causing the amnesia present in the later films. Then, seconds later, Stryker points the gun at Kayla, preparing to blast her away, and she mind-controls him to point the gun at himself. But it's an empty gun, making what would be a tense moment (if you hadn't seen X2) into one that's kind of funny.
    • What I simply don't get is how does an adamantium bullet penetrate a skull coated WITH THE SAME MATERIAL?! It would have made sense if he had shot him through the eyes or up the nose, which has been shown in the comics, or even if Wolverine had slowly lost his memory as a side effect of the bonding process. But somehow the toughest material in the universe is able to penetrate itself.
      • Well, diamonds can cut each other. Maybe the same principle would work for Adamantium.
      • You can't *cut* something with something else made of the same material, but you can penetrate a sheet of one material with a projectile of the same material, as long as it has enough mass and kinetic energy. Actually, it's more like tearing through the sheet rather than penetrating it outright, but the end result is the same, it goes through. In this case, the sheet would be Wolverine's skull. After all, lead bullets can penetrate steel plates even if lead is softer than steel.
      • Given enough kinetic force, you are right. But Adamantium is stated to be impenetrable, so it should be at least much more strong than any real world alloy. You should not be able to break it with a bullet, not even an adamantium one, more than steel arrows fired by a bow could penetrate a tank. Stryker should have used some sort of juiced-up rifle to keep some tenue verosimility.
      • Or simply shooting him in the eye, avoiding the 'Adamantiium piercing Adamantium' problem altogether.
    • Continuing from this line of thought — shooting an adamantium skull with an adamantium bullet only causes a little dint that makes you lose your memory, but you can cut a guy's adamantium neck off with adamantium claws? A bullet would travel somewhat faster than a roundhouse, one would have thought.
      • Deadpool didn't have adamantium in his skeleton. The one doc points out they haven't done the grafting yet when Striker wants him activated.
    • Oh, and Deadpool has this CONTINUOUSLY FIRING broad-range eyebeams that can destroy entire concrete structures (that you discover after his death), but doesn't think to just leave them on the whole time he's fighting Sabretooth and Wolverine? It's almost as if the movie gave Deadpool too much power and the script relies on continuing Deus ex Machina to resolve the fight in the designated hero's favour.
    • The entire Gambit scene is a giant Wall Banger. Gambit hates Creed. Logan shows up and tells him he's going to kill Creed. Remy suspects Logan is working with him and attacks. Creed randomly shows up for no apparent reason and fights with Logan. Gambit then, after seeing Creed (a man he knows is his enemy) fighting Logan (a man he only suspects to be his enemy only because of his possible affiliation WITH CREED) decides to attack Logan and allow Creed to escape. And then he displays random Spider-Man agility. And Logan takes out a fire escape in a manner befitting Looney Tunes. THEN, Gambit declares "You really DO want to kill him!" and decides to help Logan after all. One imagines how an idiot of this magnitude escaped the island.
    • "He has no way of getting that jacket back!"
      • Nobody ever said that jacket was one-of-a-kind. Just because Logan lost his memories doesn't necessarily mean his taste in jackets has to change.
    • The same female character getting fridged twice for the sake of Wolverine's "character development".
      • The most baffling part of his girlfriend's "death" to anyone familiar with the comics (or the first 3 movies... or the cartoon) is that one of Wolverine's PRIMARY powers is his sense of smell, how the HELL did he not realise that the blood covering his girlfriend wasn't hers? Not to mention he's pretty damn good at figuring out if someone is really dead from yards away; in a recent comic he enters a large research facility that he'd never been in before and is able to discern that there is a "female, dead" somewhere within... and THAT was a girl he didn't know and therefore was unfamiliar with her scent.
      • Or heck, why he didn't notice that there weren't large gashes all over her body? Seriously, for that much blood to be all over a corpse, one would imagine that the wounds would be visible.
      • Let's pretend for a moment that Wolverine's super senses weren't enough to realize she wasn't really dead. Why didn't he take her to a hospital? It would've taken a doctor five minutes to realize she had no wounds and she was, in fact, alive.
      • If Wolvie thinks she's dead, getting her to a hospital isn't going to do much. Also, Wolverine's a major rage case. He finds his lover dead, he's not going to be thinking anything other than "Kill the SOB who did it."
    • Okay, seriously people, are Wolverine's brother Victor Creed and Sabretooth from the X-Men Trilogy meant to be the same character or not? Or have they just adapted to film the same character twice?
      • To be fair, Victor Creed is never called Sabretooth in Wolverine's movie. And Sabretooth never gives his real name in the first X-Men.
      • Magneto was working with a machine that triggered mutations. That probably includes secondary mutations. The Professor said it apparently had no effect on mutants.
    • Wolverine is named after a small, vicious animal. Sabretooth is named after one of the largest cats that ever lived. In the comics and cartoons, Wolverine is a short, hairy guy, and Sabretooth is gigantic, and calls Wolverine "shorty" all the time. In the original X-Men movie, Wolverine is too damn tall, but at least Tyler Mane's Sabretooth is even larger. So what do we do for the prequel? We recast Sabretooth as Liev Schreiber, who is in fact shorter than Hugh Jackman. So Wolverine is now taller than Sabretooth, thus ruining the entire dynamic between the two characters. That's like making Sam Gamgee physically larger than Shelob.
      • There's a dramatic, important moment where Wolverine's girlfriend tells him the story of why Kuekuatsu, the Wolverine, howls at the moon. Except if she was in touch with her First Nations heritage enough to tell such a story off the top of her head, she would almost certainly be aware that A WOLVERINE IS NOT A WOLF. Wolverines aren't even canines. They're mustelids, like otters and weasels.
      • Actually, according to IMDB, Schreiber is half an inch taller than Jackman. Of course this makes them about equal.
      • The explanation most people are having is "he gets animalistic" over the movies (although not even Dr. Manhattan understands how).
      • One assumes Stryker eventually subjected him to a LOT of genetic testing.
    • Wolverine's girlfriend turns out to have the ability to mind-control anyone through physical contact. We find this out in a climactic scene where she tearfully confesses that she's been playing Logan in order to get the evil general to release her sister. Said general is very much within arm's reach. How hard would it been, over the years of their 'working together,' to just get a hand on him?
      • To the movie's credit, she said that Stryker was always very careful. Still doesn't justify the plot hole.
      • Stryker had a large number of mutants locked up, almost all of which had been kidnapped, were quite powerful, and would have loved to hurt him badly. Chances are, he took a good many precautions and prep work to keep himself safe in case a mutant did try to off him.
    • How the hell could Wolverine block Deadpool's eyebeams with his claws? Yes, adamantium is incredibly durable, but why didn't the eyebeams go through the gaps between the claws?
      • Not only that, but just because you block something doesn't mean it's harmless. You can block a missile with a suit of armor, but that doesn't mean you're going to stand there unharmed. The real question is how was Wolverine just standing there without being thrown a mile away?
      • This is Wolverine, people. He's just that awesome.
    • The fact that he had fairly large hunks of metal tearing the already formed neural pathways in his brain apart and suffers severe amnesia as a result isn't too hard to believe if you take into account that Logan's healing factor probably didn't have an exact map of the original pathways handy when it started reconstruction, but then try to factor in the fact that he never seems to have had those bullets removed. So... how does that work out? He just walks around with big honking bullets in his gray matter like it's no big deal? For that matter, his healing factor has never been seen to include the adamantium so how does he even heal that? Without someone like Magneto on hand to a) remove the bullets for him and b) reshape the adamantium in his skull in order to fix the gaping holes there's not a lot he can do there.
      • It is actually possible for an ordinary, non-mutant human to live a full, healthy life with a bullet lodged in the brain. It's not common, and it's unheard of for them not to suffer SOME negative consequences (change in personality, et cetera), but it's not impossible.
    • X-Men 2: There were nozzles in Magneto's prison cell that give out highly effective knock-out gas. That's reasonable, nah, brilliant in its simplicity and usefulness. In fact, every time there is a similar premise (a chamber where they need to prevent somebody from entering and/or leaving) but without a knock-out gas dispenser installed, it leaves me screaming: "You idiots, why didn't you install a knock-out gas dispenser?" Then Magneto attempts escape... and the gas is not used at all!!!
      • For a start, the guards didn't know he was making a successful escape attempt until he shattered the walls of his cell- the same walls that keep the gas in. Magneto takes about a minute or two to actually pass out when the nozzles are first used, and that's because the cell is small enough for the gas to build up to effective levels quickly. Once the walls are broken down, not only is the gas pumping into a much larger space (assuming the nozzles still work), but Magneto isn't waiting around to see what happens next. Ergo, the gas is pretty much useless unless the cell walls are intact.
      • For a start he killed a guard. Rather slowly and in a manner clearly indicating presence of metal. If that's not a reason enough to start pumping in the gas, I don't know what is (please, don't say they didn't have video surveillance in his cell, have mercy for the wall). And the gas is NOT useless, because, even if Magneto breaks out, you can still flood the whole building with gas!
      • While the first point is valid (holy shit he's killing the guy slowly and horribly! Why aren't we doing anything!) the second fails because it still takes time to flood the area with enough gas to make it work.
      • Maybe they don't have video surveillance in his cell because the cameras would necessarily 1)be placed in line-of-sight from him and 2)contain metal circuitry. That said, if they can't use cameras they ought to have a guard stationed at a watch post 24/7.
      • No, we actually do see a security camera in Magneto's cell switch off during Stryker's visit. It's not clear if it was ever switched on again, so perhaps the security guards just got lazy; after all, these are the same guards who caught a blip on the metal detector and didn't bother to check what was wrong.
      • Also... gas? Given how dangerous Magneto is and how hard it would be to stop any potential escape, his cell should be sitting on a very large quantity of plastic explosive that can be detonated from anywhere in the building.
  • X-Men: First Class. The mutants have just saved the world from the Omnicidal Maniac and prevented the Third World War, so the grateful humanity (ok, the US and USSR leaders), as a token of appreciation, decides to wipe them out with Macross Missile Massacre. Magneto stops the missiles and then directs them back at the battleships that fired them. Xavier, naturally tries to dissuade him from this act of cruelty by reminding Eric that there are thousands of sailors on the ships who were... Just Following Orders. He says this to Eric. The Holocaust survivor. *Facepalm*
    • According to someone on the Fridge page, Charles relies on his psychic powers to persuade people. Without them as a crutch, and with no time to think about it, he says precisely the wrong thing to Eric.
    • Why didn't Charles mind control Azazel into teleporting Erik back to the mansion or something?
    • Young Eric witnesses his mother shot right before his eyes by the Big Bad, and lets loose his powers in shock and hate against... the two hapless mooks standing behind him. Why didn't Eric just kill the person who killed his mother who is also sitting right in front of him?
      • Probably because the man in question could absorb all energy (including kinetic, we'd assume - nullifying all projectiles). Let's not forget that he had to be telekinetically frozen before he could finally be killed.
      • How, and with what control? He couldn't even really turn his powers on consciously yet; the two mooks died due to misfortune rather than intent. And even if he tried, it still wouldn't have done anything to Shaw.
  • X-Men: Days of Future Past. Human scientist Bolivar Trask made a device that identifies mutants. He's anti-mutant and pushes an anti-mutant program through the Senate. He had already witnessed a mutant shapeshifting infiltrator once, exposing her with that very device. So naturally, he would fit that device in all his factories and transports, constantly have his own device turned out to maximum power, and convince the President to outfit the security with the devices, right? Of course not, because then how would Mystique get close enough for a hit on him, or how would Magneto be able to highjack his mutant-hunting robots?
    • Yes, that is the way Shadowcat's powers work in the comic; but for those in the audience whose only introduction to the character are the previous films, the fact that she has suddenly gained the ability to travel through time goes completely unexplained throughout the entire film.

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